Posted on 02/18/2012 7:27:44 AM PST by no dems
An Open Letter to Rick Santorum:
Dear Senator:
As a strong, common-sense Conservative, I have a favor to ask of you. Could you please consider not answering, off the cuff, every question thrown at you? Would you please engage your brain before putting your mouth in gear? I’m beginning to see now, how, as an incumbent, you lost your Senate seat by 18 pecentage points to the brain-dead Bob Casey. Women vote Senator; and, they vote in large numbers. Now, please consider this common-sense observation from a Conservative male:
Women have been in combat for years now. Women have used birth control for decades now. Some of your comments are so unbelievably naive. When you said that contraception was “bad for America”, I thought: “Hey Rick, if we didn’t have contraception, we’d have millions more bastard kids to support through the Welfare system than we have now.” People are going to have sex, Rick. Just because you believe it is primarily for procreation, some of us like a little intimacy with our spouse once in awhile without having 19 kids, like the Duggar family that has endorsed you.
Sorry, Rick, but, sometimes, you embarrass some of us who want to support you. And the comment, re: birth control, made by your biggest donor, Foster Friess, was over the top. He reminds me of Clayton Williams, the GOP candidate for Governor, who had the election in the bag against Ma Richards, until he made his stupid comment about women and rape.
Please Rick, you and Foster need to slow down, think, and then speak. Maybe a little more elucidation, before publication?
I wish you well.
Conservatives are so stupid.
It’s so easy to get them to turn on each other.
Libs always circle the wagons - especially on issues they consider important.
But you conservatives will argue over things that don’t even matter.
Why don’t you morons go pay your taxes? There’s going to be a lot more of them after the libs win the election this Nov. :)
Indeed. It’s a pity that civilization has fallen that far.
So you really miss segregation and the little woman at home barefoot and pregnant?
Be careful what you long for, friend.
“[T]he folks who are most bothered by the infidelity of others are those who are stuck in miserable marriages and who feel self righteously that everyone should stick it out in a miserable marriage as well.”
Are you saying Rick Santorum is NOT one of “these folks”? Even if you’re not making this connection, “the folks who” is sufficient for proving both cases of ad hominem.
“The connection between the abusive and the circumstantial varieties of argumentum ad hominem is not difficult to see. The circumstatial variety may even be regarded as a special case of the abusive. The first use of the circumstantial charges people who dispute your conclusion with inconsistency, either among their beliefs or between their preaching and their practice, which may be regarded as a kind of reproach or abuse. The second use of the circumstantial charges one’s adversaries with being so prejudiced that their alleged reasons are mere rationalizations of conclusions dictated by self-interest. And that is certainly to abuse them . . . sometimes called “poisoning the well.”
Irving M. Copi, Introduction to Logic, 1986.
He’s not the one who is still ahead of RS in raw vote.
I cannot believe how so many fall for that silliness -- not the aspirin comment -- the reaction to mild humor from years ago. It was a polite way of advising a woman that if she is worried about getting pregnant then do not have sex. Catholic women had to use St. Joseph aspirin.
Nowadays of course we have to be "cool" like Bill Clinton telling women his method for them to avoid getting pregnant -- I guess I just an old fuddy-duddy.
What's next?
Headline: "Take my wife... please!" Not funny, Mr. President!
Outrageous Insult to All Women!
The House impeaches President. "Off him!" demand NOW.
“Men tend to take abortion lightly; they regard it as one of the numerous hazards imposed on women by malignant nature, but fail to realise fully the values involved. The woman who has recourse to abortion is disowning feminine values, her values, and at the same time is in most radical fashion running counter to the ethics established by men. Her whole moral universe is being disrupted....[H]ow could they fail to feel an inner mistrust of the presumptuous principles that men publicly proclaim and secretly disregard? They learn to believe no longer in what men say when they exalt woman or when they exalt man; the one thing they are sure of is this rifled and bleeding womb, these shreds of crimson life, this child that is not there.” - Simone de Beauvoir, feminist leader and advocate of legalized abortion, in The Second Sex, 1952
You totally missed the use of illustrative analogy and you also read abuse into a potential observation that surely does not rise to the level of abuse.
You also disregarded my “evidence” - which while was somewhat anecdotal, does speak to a truth that can be and has been backed up by more scientific research.
And then there’s the notion that the definition you used for Ad Hominem is the accepted definition in today’s parlance. I do not.
Oh for 4.
The irony is that this has happened in spite of, or maybe because of, the feminist movement.
Ding. Ding. Ding. Hammer ... meet nail. And this was all FORETOLD IN 1968!
Four Prophecies
In Humanae Vitae, Pope Paul VI made four rather general "prophecies" about what would happen if the Church's teaching on contraception were ignored ...
1) Infidelity and moral decline ...
2) Lost Respect for Women ...
3) Abuse of Power ...
4) Unlimited Dominion ...
"Whoever has ears ought to hear ... they hear but do not listen or understand."
“The freedom that women were supposed to have found in the Sixties largely boiled down to easy contraception and abortion; things to make life easier for men, in fact.”
Julie Burchill, British feminist and abortion advocate, in Damaged Goods, 1986
Good Lord! It was an old cornball joke, so clean Bob Hope could have told it a ladies' tea party.
We have become a nation of English countesses, fainting from the vapors at any hint of frivolity.
I would vote Third Party before voting for Romney. Right now, I wonder if any of our candidates could defeat the Marxist Muslim in the White House. What an inferior lot we have to choose from.
I do not know no dems and I do not totally agree with this post (though I agree in part).
Having said that, your response was a pitiful attempt at snarky humor and added absolutely nothing of intellectual heft to the debate. So, no humor and no brains — what was it you were hoping to accomplish?
“So you really miss segregation and the little woman at home barefoot and pregnant? “
I wasn’t around actually. I had to grow up a product of a broken family in an America paralyzed by its defeat in Vietnam, awash in drugs, populated now by tattooed savages with pins through their noses. When I listen to my elders tell me of a time when people didn’t have to lock doors and could leave car keys in a car; when I read about a time when a Congress would actually put “under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance instead of passing abominations like Obamacare without reading them; then I cannot help but think that despite its warts, it was a lot closer to civilization’s height than we are now.
Nowadays of course we have to be "cool" like Bill Clinton telling women his method for them to avoid getting pregnant -- I guess I am just an old fuddy-duddy.
What's next?
Headline:
"Take my wife... please!" Not funny, Mr. President!
Outrageous Insult to All Women!
The House impeaches President Santorum. "Off him!" demand NOW.
Catholic perspective thread ping.
Personally, I say: Everyone -- everyone -- had it better in the 1950s.
Go to about.com and the contraception guide (who is a planned parenthood gal) use the same aspirin-between-the-knees maxim as a joke, too.
In my case its not nostalgia- just a conclusion based on the information I can gather.
God forbid a politician stand on his faith....
Obummer stands on his hybrid “faith” of “Black Liberation Theology” - aka - Blame Whitey plus a massive does of Islam...
Maybe a few more politicians should stand on their faith instead of being among the biggest hypocrites in the world (like the supposedly Catholic Pelozi and company who stand fast for Abortion and so many other things that the Catholic faith they supposedly embrace are adamantly against).
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