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Scientists Use Stem Cells to Generate Human Eggs
New York Times ^ | Feb. 26, 2012 | Nicholas Wade

Posted on 02/26/2012 7:28:24 PM PST by Dajjal

Researchers at Massachusetts General Hospital say they have extracted stem cells from human ovaries and made them generate egg cells. The advance, if confirmed, might provide a new source of eggs for treating infertility, though scientists say it is far too early to tell if the work holds such promise.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: helixmakemineadouble; homosexualagenda; moralabsolutes; stemcell; stemcellresearch; stemcells
This means that soon male homosexual couples will be able to have genetic children, if a stem cell of one male is used to create an egg.

(They would still need a "surrogate mother" to carry the embryo.)

The article says that the current research uses stem cells from women's ovaries to create the egg, but once they develop the technique, they will be able to use any stem cell (e.g., from the skin).

When they learn how to turn stem cells into sperm cells, then lesbian couples will also be able to have genetic children.

1 posted on 02/26/2012 7:28:34 PM PST by Dajjal
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Please ping your lists.

This means that soon male homosexual couples will be able to have genetic children, if a stem cell of one male is used to create an egg.

(They would still need a "surrogate mother" to carry the embryo.)

The article says that the current research uses stem cells from women's ovaries to create the egg, but once they develop the technique, they will be able to use any stem cell (e.g., from the skin).

When they learn how to turn stem cells into sperm cells, then lesbian couples will also be able to have genetic children.

2 posted on 02/26/2012 7:32:06 PM PST by Dajjal ("I'm not concerned about the very poor." -- severely conservative Mitt Rmoney)
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Researchers at Massachusetts General Hospital say they have extracted stem cells from human ovaries and made them generate egg cells.

Nope. Males don't have ovaries, women are still needed for the process.
3 posted on 02/26/2012 7:32:37 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (May Mitt Romney be the Paul Tsongas of 2012.)
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To: Dajjal
Generate Eggs Sardou and a milk punch.

Then maybe I'll be impressed.

4 posted on 02/26/2012 7:33:46 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Dajjal

Somewhere Aldus Huxley shakes his head in disgust, having seen this all before...


5 posted on 02/26/2012 7:40:25 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Normie: Wandering Druid, Cult of Palin)
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Nope. Males don't have ovaries, women are still needed for the process.

Women are currently needed for the process. But eventually they will be able to use any stem cell.

6 posted on 02/26/2012 7:41:26 PM PST by Dajjal ("I'm not concerned about the very poor." -- severely conservative Mitt Rmoney)
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Massachusetts General Hospital must have some very evil researchers, to have such a low regard for life ...


7 posted on 02/26/2012 7:42:03 PM PST by Ken522
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They look forward to the day when they get to decide which of us are Alphas, Betas, Deltas and “Epselons”. I’m thinking they lean heavily in that direction.


8 posted on 02/26/2012 7:44:34 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Normie: Wandering Druid, Cult of Palin)
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This means that soon male homosexual couples will be able to have genetic children, if a stem cell of one male is used to create an egg.

(They would still need a "surrogate mother" to carry the embryo.)

The article says that the current research uses stem cells from women's ovaries to create the egg, but once they develop the technique, they will be able to use any stem cell (e.g., from the skin).

When they learn how to turn stem cells into sperm cells, then lesbian couples will also be able to have genetic children.

9 posted on 02/26/2012 7:48:15 PM PST by Dajjal ("I'm not concerned about the very poor." -- severely conservative Mitt Rmoney)
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But eventually they will be able to use any stem cell.

That's when God comes down and says, "Ok everybody, out of the pool!"

10 posted on 02/26/2012 7:49:58 PM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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That’s going to be a very, very expensive treatment. Only the very rich would be able to afford that.


11 posted on 02/26/2012 7:58:22 PM PST by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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Matter of scale/volume. Once Asprin was only for those who had the means as well. Eventually and rapidly it will get the Henry Ford treatment.


12 posted on 02/26/2012 8:03:37 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Normie: Wandering Druid, Cult of Palin)
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“That’s going to be a very, very expensive treatment. Only the very rich would be able to afford that.”

HA! Until its mandated as a new right by a future leftist gubment.


13 posted on 02/26/2012 8:04:45 PM PST by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average In the US the number is 54%)
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Science is not God. Science can be used for evil as well as for good. This is evil. Evil science such as this should be illegal. Purely evil.

14 posted on 02/26/2012 8:06:52 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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And further into the bottomless moral abyss we speak. I never underestimate the liberals, for they can always sink lower. A child born without a biological mother or father is heartbreaking.


15 posted on 02/26/2012 8:55:52 PM PST by Pinkbell
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speak should be sink
16 posted on 02/26/2012 9:17:20 PM PST by Pinkbell
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To: Dajjal

Ian Malcolm in Jurrasic Park Scientists spend to much time asking “Can we...?” when they should be asking “Should we?”


17 posted on 02/27/2012 5:21:01 AM PST by verga (Party like it is 1773)
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Re: surrogate mother

I bet somewhere in a lab there are scientists who are working to produce an artificial birthing tank or a stem cell produced equivilent to a uterus so that human birth mothers aren’t needed.

And it’s obvious that you wouldn’t want to use just any old stem cell donor. You’d want to cull out those whose DNA showed recessive genes or inheirited medical problems like sickle cell anemia, Marfans Syndrome, insanity, obesity and other problems.

Step by step we arrive at the goal of producing a Master Race on a production line. All in the name of scientific curiousity/inquiry.


18 posted on 02/27/2012 7:21:18 AM PST by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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That’s going to be a very, very expensive treatment. Only the very rich would be able to afford that.

Obamacare will provide it free to lesbians, muslims and "ACORN" clients. White Christians and Jews will be deselected.

19 posted on 02/27/2012 9:18:49 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("The facts of life are Tory." -- Margaret Thatcher)
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Thanks Dajjal.


20 posted on 02/27/2012 4:20:28 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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The article says that the current research uses stem cells from women's ovaries to create the egg, but once they develop the technique, they will be able to use any stem cell (e.g., from the skin).

That's quite a stretch. Who said that? From the article:

"Even if the research is validated, the immediate use of the cells in question would be to generate egg cells for research use, like testing the effects of drugs. Use in fertility treatments would be far off, Dr. Albertini said, because cells grown in the laboratory often develop abnormalities, a problem that would need correction before any egg could be accepted for fertilization."

That's the only sentence in the article with the word "any." Adult stem cells are fairly differentiated. Reverting to an oocyte would be quite a trick, IMHO. Check out induced pluripotent stem cells.

21 posted on 02/27/2012 5:24:21 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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Oocyte formation by mitotically active germ cells purified from ovaries of reproductive-age women

I'm not sure where they're going with this, but some on this thread fear it's promoting a homosexual agenda.

FReepmail me if you want on or off my stem cell ping list.

22 posted on 02/27/2012 5:35:02 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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That's quite a stretch. Who said that?

Shinya Yamanaka, one of the pioneers in stem cell research, said "In theory, two men could use this technology to have a baby, because you could take skin cells and use them to make an egg."

Yamanaka led the team that turned adult mouse skin cells into mouse stem cells. In the Dec. 15, 2007 issue of New Scientist, he spoke about it in an interview. (The article is online, but you need to be a subscriber or pay for the single article.)

My brother told me about it back in Dec. 2007.

Excerpt:

Interview: Kyoto's Stem Cell Pioneer
by Linda Geddes

15 December 2007
Magazine issue 2634

Last month, Shinya Yamanaka at Kyoto University showed he could transform adult skin cells into cells akin to human embryonic stem cells. The method, which involves inserting genetic material that makes the cells' development run backwards, opens the door to stem cells specific to patients, which could be used to repair damaged organs or fight diseases such as Parkinson's and diabetes crucially, all without the need to destroy human embryos. Linda Geddes visited Yamanaka in Kyoto and found him excited at his breakthrough but concerned over its ethical implications.

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Geddes: Are there any other scenarios that could raise ethical dilemmas?

Yamanaka: I'm not sure whether we should try to make eggs from male iPS cells and vice versa. In theory, two men could use this technology to have a baby, because you could take skin cells and use them to make an egg. [my emphasis]

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The genetic-children-of-homosexuals angle is not in the NYT article posted above. But it is being discussed by researchers in the field, and is a logical future extension of this recent success at creating human eggs from ovary stem cells.

23 posted on 02/27/2012 7:45:17 PM PST by Dajjal ("I'm not concerned about the very poor." -- severely conservative Mitt Rmoney)
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The genetic-children-of-homosexuals angle is not in the NYT article posted above. But it is being discussed by researchers in the field, and is a logical future extension of this recent success at creating human eggs from ovary stem cells.

They had to start with harvested ovaries, probably ovaries of questionable quality in the first place, i.e. most of these folks probably needed sexual reassignment surgery. Folks can be born with ambiguous genitalia.

I'll take science over science fiction any day. You should have checked that link about induced pluripotent stem cells, Shinya Yamanaka's bailiwick.

Flaw in induced-stem-cell model - Adult cells do not fully convert to embryonic-like state.

They are not even close to an embryonic like state, thanks to epigenetics. You have made an assumption that they can reverse molecular biology to the most primitive state of progenitor oocyte cells with half the number of chromosomes of adult cells.

This is reverse engineering at a molecular level. If they were so competent at it, the hundreds of different kinds of cancers, just by cell type, God knows how many other differences there may be at the molecular level, would be a thing of the past. Speculation is one thing. Here we have too many unknown unknowns.

24 posted on 02/29/2012 9:50:54 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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