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PLEASE - Speak Now or Forever Hold Your Peace
Butterdezillion

Posted on 03/08/2012 8:03:47 AM PST by butterdezillion

A week ago today Sheriff Joe Arpaio held a press conference to report the preliminary findings of the Cold Case Posse. Mike Zullo, commander of the posse, reported that they had found probable cause for fraud and forgery of Obama's long-form birth certificate and draft registration, and that the posse was recommending a full criminal investigation. Sheriff Arpaio said the investigation would continue but that he would have to decide who, if anybody, to refer the case to for additional follow-up.

Those who perpetrated the forgeries and fraud defrauded the people of Maricopa County, Arizona. Arpaio has jurisdiction to investigate and prosecute that crime, but his ability to get warrants, require depositions, and issue inviolate subpoenas for official records is limited. And he would not have the ability to prosecute for FEDERAL crimes committed.

This means that Arpaio can only nicely ask the HDOH for the original records that will tell us what really happened. We know what Hawaii does with nice requests. The law doesn't REQUIRE one state to honor another state's subpoenas. The states generally work together on law enforcement, but Hawaii's government is in a class all its own. On the issue of FRAUD, the HDOH are implicated in the fraud itself, since they themselves acted as if what was online was genuine. So the State of Hawaii has its own potential criminality to cover up. They will not cooperate with Sheriff Joe or any investigation unless they can legally be FORCED to cooperate.

If we are going to have any semblance of the rule of law we need a federal investigation.

It can't be a DOJ investigation. As we've seen through Fast & Furious, the DOJ folks under AG Eric Holder are just as crooked as the criminals - perjuring themselves and refusing subpoenas regarding their own potential crimes of obstructing justice for Brian Terry, committing acts of war against Mexico by deliberately arming drug cartels with untrackable weapons, and other potential crimes.

We need Congress to initiate hearings and eventually appoint a special independent prosecutor to investigate and prosecute the federal crimes that the Cold Case Posse has uncovered, as well as many other crimes perpetrated to cover up Obama's documentation problem.

That is only going to happen if we literally BURY all our Congress-critters with DEMANDS for an investigation. Each of us should call our Senators, Representative, and the Oversight Committee - Darryl Issa's Office (ask specifically for Issa's office) at 202-225-5051.

The more people we can ping, e-mail, tweet, etc to get them to demand the simple rule of law - that known SERIOUS federal crimes be investigated and prosecuted - the more likely that our government will realize the people are awake and are not going to give up this country without a fight.

If we don't give them that message now, loudly and clearly, then we have no room to complain when even the appearance of the rule of law is abandoned for utter chaos. At this point the courts are so compromised they are a vain hope. (See http://www.coachisright.com/georgia-superior-court-refuses-to-consider-legal-appeal-of-obama-eligibility-ruling/ ) Crimes have been committed, and unless we are a banana republic, those crimes need to be investigated.

Here's a sample of what you might want to say:

After seeing the press conference that Sheriff Joe Arpaio held in Maricopa County -- it became obvious that a crime has been committed. Not only is the birth certificate fraudulently manufactured... but it was clear by Sheriff Joe's findings that the Selective Service card was fraudulently forged and manufactured. This is no longer about the minutia of the birth certificate any more. If the Selective Service card is a fraudulent produced document then by law -- it is illegal for Obama to hold ANY public office position... not even allowed to be Senator. There needs to be a congressional hearing held on this. When will that happen?

Please take a moment now to call your Senators and Representative (you can search for their phone number at http://www.congress.org/congressorg/directory/congdir.tt ), as well as the Oversight Committee at 202-225-5051 (remember to ask specifically for Issa). And then ping, e-mail, and tweet as many people as you can, asking them to do the same.

Thanks!


TOPICS: US: Arizona; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: arizona; arpaio; birthcertificate; certifigate; issa; joearpaio; leasedcars; maybealittleblow; mymuslimfaith; naturalborncitizen; papertrail; posse; selectiveservicereg; socialsecuritynumber; titlechicagohome; trustaccounts
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To: JohnnyP
Governor Jan Brewer seems to have covered her eyes, saying she believes he was born in Hawaii.

She just decided she wants to wait a while longer before she joins Breitbart and Foster.


21 posted on 03/08/2012 9:33:21 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: butterdezillion
I think we do need to draft a Declaration of Independence for this day.
A Declaration of Principles might be more suited.

@Citizen Kane: Declaration of Principles
A crude analogy, perhaps, but more in line to what's needed IMO.

22 posted on 03/08/2012 9:34:14 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: butterdezillion

Hi Butter! Thanks for posting this and for the ping! I have contacted all my congress critters, nit that it will make a difference, they are all democrats here in Oregon. sigh

I published an article yesterday in Pravda. It is an unbelievable thing that I must go to RUSSIA in order to find freedom of the press, the Irony is so epic I have a hard time really expressing it.

The article is here, and connects Arpaio’s findings with Eligibility issues, Hawaii’s role, and the coverup of the Soros Foundation connected Justia: http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/07-03-2012/120708-arizona_sheriff_obama-0/

The more this information is published in Main Stream Media, even if it is overseas, it will eventually become an unavoidable issue. I WILL NOT GIVE UP.

I am Andrew Breitbart.


23 posted on 03/08/2012 9:35:49 AM PST by Danae (Fapp Mfx, tat xhr toagd xhro humeqagc qhtmx??)
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To: butterdezillion

Here’s a sample of what you might want to say: (as revised by Graewoulf)

___________________________

After recently seeing the press conference that Sheriff Joe Arpaio held in Maricopa County, it became obvious that a Federal crime has been committed. Not only was the birth certificate fraudulently altered, but it was clear by Sheriff Joe’s findings that the Selective Service card was also fraudulently forged and manufactured.

This is no longer about the minutia of the birth certificate any more. If the Selective Service card is a fraudulent produced document then by Federal law, it is illegal for Obama to hold ANY public office position, not even allowed to be a US Senator.

I request a congressional hearing held on this. When, this month, will that happen?

________________________

Please take a moment now to call your Senators and Representative (you can search for their phone number at http://www.congress.org/congressorg/directory/congdir.tt ), as well as the Oversight Committee at 202-225-5051 (remember to ask specifically for Issa). And then ping, e-mail, and tweet as many people as you can, asking them to do the same.

Thanks!


24 posted on 03/08/2012 9:38:31 AM PST by Graewoulf (( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: butterdezillion
He wasn’t able to get rid of our right to bear arms

Yet.

25 posted on 03/08/2012 9:40:35 AM PST by bgill (Romney & Obama are both ineligible. A non-NBC GOP prez shuts down all ?s on Obama's admin)
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To: JohnnyP

Carl Seel has an eligibility bill ready to go. The R’s ahve a veto-proof majority in the AZ legislature. This is where Soros’ threats to the media hurt the most, because if the local media is hostile to the issue the lawmakers will be afraid to touch it. Arizonans need to contact their lawmakers and strongly encourage them to pass an eligibility bill.

It is ridiculous to think that we could have somebody who presented to the public a document that is identified by law enforcement as being forged - and still have no way to keep that person off the ballot. If we’re willing to accept that, we may as well kiss the rule of law good-bye.

As for Jan Brewer, the question to ask her is this: What should happen when there is probable cause for state and federal crimes involving documents that the assumed POTUS published on his own website and said in a press conference was his genuine record? What should be done when a federal agency actually forged a fraudulent draft registration?

The issue right now is the crimes that have been committed. Obama most likely did not forge the birth certificate or the draft registration. But he held a press conference presenting as genuine what the posse has found to be a forgery. The fraud that was committed was committed by Obama personally, if he knew what the reporters were looking at and what was placed on the website were forgeries. And since he claimed in his book to have had a copy of his birth certificate, if the genuine records (determined to be genuine after auditing the microfilms, paper records, and computer vital records history and transaction logs) differ from what was presented then he HAD to know he was defrauding the American public.


26 posted on 03/08/2012 9:41:59 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

The elite liberal media is a fully participating part of Gangster Govt Inc. Obama could send thousands of firearms to Mexican drug cartel assassins, leading to hundreds of dead Mexicans, and they would not report it. Which is what has happened.

“Gangster Govt And Sakharov’s Immunity”
http://www.enemiesforeignanddomestic.com/efadGG.htm


27 posted on 03/08/2012 9:50:51 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: mills044; magglepuss

Thank you! Take the torch and run with it! (sorry to mix metaphors. lol)

It is very possible that the lawmakers are NOT aware of the posse’s findings, and we should remember that also. The media has been threatened - which is another thing that there should be hearings on - and so there is no coverage that reports the facts/evidence actually presented at the presser. It means that we basically have to do all the reporting ourselves.

And that helps me know how to answer another post that I was baffled over.

How many times do we call these people, magglepuss? Given that the press is not doing the reporting of facts critical for the legislators to know, I’d say we should call them every time a new fact comes out that they should know. If they get tired of having to hear the news from lots of individuals jamming their phone lines, maybe they will realize why we need a free press. And why it is a SERIOUS CRIME for Soros to commit extortion on the entire media of this country.

For instance, the next thing to call them about should be to inform them of Doug Hagman’s investigation regarding Soros threats to the media, which Mike Zullo of the Cold Case Posse says they have also corroborated. To further understand that issue, start reading at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2854663/posts?page=59#59 . I should also add that Tom Ballantyne has a transcript of Hagman’s interview on the Laurie Roth Show in his book “Oh Really, O’Reilly”, for anybody who doesn’t want to slog through the 3 hours of audio.


28 posted on 03/08/2012 9:53:04 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Danae

Try to get a quote from them saying that the federal crimes of fraud and forgery are not worth investigating.

We need to get them on the record saying that, so we can post it on the web for all to see. A law enforcement body has found probable cause for fraud and forgery involving the records of the man who holds the nuclear football. Ask for a statement, in writing, from these people saying what recommendations they will make for a federal investigation of those crimes.

I think we need to call in order to get immediate responses and apply pressure, but I think we also need to write letters requesting a response to the specific question of whether they will push for a federal investigation, and why - so their response can be documented for all to see.

Danae, on a personal note - watch your back. We really ARE Breitbart now.


29 posted on 03/08/2012 9:59:30 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: philman_36

That, and a listing of the violations of this administration, like there is in the Declaration of Independence.

I started documenting the Obama crap in that brief period between Obama’s inauguration and October of 2009 when I started investigating the eligibility issue. By the end of that time the list was already longer than most people would take the time to read. And all of it serious stuff.

By the time the campaigning for the general election starts we need to have a list that shows in black-and-white print exactly what this Obama has done to destroy this nation, the rule of law, and the checks and balances and separation of powers that our Founders had the wisdom to put in place.

The list will be too long for most people to have the patience to read so we need to make sure the most important things are at the top.


30 posted on 03/08/2012 10:07:01 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Graewoulf

Good edit. I agree. It should happen within this month.

And we need to bombard Congress with calls to investigate Soros’ threats on the media as well. That should also be investigated AT LEAST before the campaign for the general election sets in.


31 posted on 03/08/2012 10:08:41 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: TheCipher; butterdezillion

Remember who issued the FOIA on Obama’s SS#.

Richard Flahavan

Take a look at this article. It appears Mr. Flahavan seems to have a full time job ‘fixing’ politicians military records.

http://www.hillbillyreport.com/blog/2008/10/questions-about-senator-mitch-mcconnells-military-record.html

“When Richard Flahavan was questioned about sending us an extract of Senator Mitch McConnell’s Selective Service Classification Record, he responded in writing that “ Selective Service no longer has access to Selective Service records for men born prior to 1960.” “

Sound familiar - “...no longer has access...”

Keep going....

“Knowing that we had already received the full Selective Service Classification Records for Senator Saxby Chambliss, Rep Tom Tancredo born in 1943 and 1945 respectively we felt that Richard Flahavan was possibly covering for Senator Mitch McConnell.”

Worth repeating....

“...we felt that Richard Flahavan was possibly covering for Senator Mitch McConnell.”

So this military record charade goes beyond Obama. This is a Republican who is Senate Minority Leader.

Does Mr. Flahavan do this for all the crooked politicians? Or is this service provided only to the ones at very high levels?


32 posted on 03/08/2012 10:13:11 AM PST by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: butterdezillion

I am in hearty agreement with this post.

We can and will notify our Congress critters of this debacle.

However my opinion is that hell will feeze over before we get any kind of investigation, even after we elect a new President.

In my own case my people are Steny Hoyer.
Barbara Mikulski & Cardin.

A pretty sad waste of skin all the way around.


33 posted on 03/08/2012 10:16:08 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Travis McGee

They’ve been threatened by Soros. Most of them were in bed with him already. Somebody who was at the meeting where the media heads passed on to the on-air personalities the threats from Soros regarding the eligibility issue said it was said that if it had been Bush who made the threats it would be bad, but because it’s Obama and Obama is their friend they don’t mind.

That’s as close to pulling down your pants and bending over for your rapist as I can even imagine. I guess they can’t rape the media if the media puts out voluntarily, huh? But the few reporters who wouldn’t prostitute themselves in that way had to be kept in check too, which is why the threats were made. To keep the rogues from actually being journalists.

The most damaging threats were to the people we trusted, though. The conservatives. Same technique as Saddam Hussein used when he gave CNN exclusive access to the regime in return for having the credibility of the CNN brand when they spouted their own propaganda. Beck, Hannity, O’Reilly, etc are all Baghdad Bob right now, or else they would be as dead as Andrew Breitbart...

This regime views people as disposable. We see it in Fast and Furious. We see it in Soros’ threats to the media.

I’ve thought about Sakharov’s Immunity. Having to go public with my name in order to testify for Nebraska’s eligibility bill was scary at first but I realize that it gives me some protection, because if they killed me outright it would be found out and would look suspicious.

The Breitbart death indicated to me that they know they have to have plausible deniability. They have to attack people medically. Makes it real handy that they are setting up a national database of medical records that are to be accessible to the bureaucrats in government. They can see whether I have a history of heart disease. I don’t - in fact, I was tested multiple times and have been told my heart is healthy as a horse - so they can’t use a heart attack dart on me. They’d have to use something slower-acting for me...

This is where we’re at in this country right now. And it’s been enabled by what few honest reporters/commentators we had being held hostage by Soros.

At this point I want to find out which of the online conservative sites are compromised since Breitbart’s death. For instance, Townhall took down their report on Obama’s eligibility. See http://www.wnd.com/?p=138619


34 posted on 03/08/2012 10:23:53 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Venturer

Get their responses on paper if you can. They may fall on their swords, like the dems like Nebraska’s Ben Nelson did for Obamacare, but we can make sure that the swords they fall on finish them off at least.

I think there’s something foul going on even with the Congress-critters, that so many would fall on their swords. Both D’s and R’s - and the R’s even when it was a lame-duck dem House. We know that the media was threatened by Soros, and it sure seems to me like the courts, military, Congress, law enforcement, McCain as the R candidate, Bush, Cheney, etc all acted or are still acting very much like the threatened media has acted. We all know it stinks; we just don’t know how exactly we got here so we don’t know how to make it stop.


35 posted on 03/08/2012 10:30:47 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: bluecat6

Interesting. Right now I wouldn’t put anything past the corruptocrats in our government.


36 posted on 03/08/2012 10:32:01 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

Thanks for the ping. I will follow up, I think this is critically important.


37 posted on 03/08/2012 10:38:36 AM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: DustyMoment

Thank you. This takes less time than voting and gives you more bang for your buck. Ten thousand people voting is nothing; ten thousand people calling Issa’s office is something very big.

Now is the time.


38 posted on 03/08/2012 10:41:24 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

Ping me anytime on this kinda stuff. . . .


39 posted on 03/08/2012 10:42:04 AM PST by DeaconRed (I live in FL We have voted already. Nothing else I can do. I am too broke to send any $$)
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To: butterdezillion

Sister, you have that so right.

The little under-the-rock worms have their little venomous fangs out - dripping vile.

Knowledge is power. Be empowered!


40 posted on 03/08/2012 11:30:03 AM PST by Danae (Fapp Mfx, tat xhr toagd xhro humeqagc qhtmx??)
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