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3 linked to Tucson man killed in SWAT raid arrested
Arizona Star ^ | 5-8-2012 | Veronica Cruz

Posted on 03/09/2012 4:50:46 AM PST by willamedwardwallace

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To: donna
Call me indecent, ask me if I give a damn?

A spade is a spade. This clown is not a conservative, go view his posting history. He signed up to insult other freepers and mindlessly support police abuse from what I saw.

201 posted on 03/09/2012 1:27:52 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: willamedwardwallace; Lazamataz; darkwing104; 50mm; SunkenCiv; humblegunner; Allegra; Eaker; ...


So long, willamedwardwallace (Posting History)

Hat Tip to Lazamataz

Would-be legal eagle and possible retread gets too rude to exist and ends up crispy and crunchy in the local dump being gnawed on by rats
Too rotten for the Viking Kitties





Do not even intimate a threat to any FReeper


Thank you JoeProBono

FReepmail TheOldLady to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.

202 posted on 03/09/2012 2:02:59 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: TheOldLady; willamedwardwallace
willamedwardwallace

willamedwardwallace
Since Sept 15 2011.

Another one I expected to get blasted into orbit.


203 posted on 03/09/2012 2:13:06 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: Gene Eric; All

” These paramilitary exercises are out of control.”

The cops spintered my front door, cuffed me, and might have shot me

1) There is a full length window on the house. They could see I was wearing shorts, and no shirt. I was walking slowly to the front door to open it, but it was more fun to do 2500 bucks damage by shattering it, and all that held it together.

2) They were looking for a guy that had long since moved out
I had forclosed on the place.

3) The one female cop said to me “They could see you were unarmed, so I don’t know why they broke the door down”

Sheesh!! I could have sued the crap out of them!


204 posted on 03/09/2012 2:22:45 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Sheesh!! I could have sued the crap out of them!

Many municipalities have precluded that with self-protective legislation.

205 posted on 03/09/2012 2:32:40 PM PST by Lazamataz (I'm a slut.)
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To: Lazamataz; stephenjohnbanker

Taxpayer picks up the tab anyway.


206 posted on 03/09/2012 2:36:42 PM PST by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: Lazamataz

Newby troll-boy finally got banned. Glad to see it.


207 posted on 03/09/2012 2:39:31 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: Lazamataz

No doubt they have. All I demanded was that they pay for the damage, which they did.


208 posted on 03/09/2012 2:39:44 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Lazamataz

In most of his posts heretofore, WEW always had to revert to some form of OH NOEZ!!!! I suspect that he was creepily enamored of the rather slow witted blond haired guy who hung out with the deaf guy in Stephen King’s “The Stand.”


209 posted on 03/09/2012 2:42:34 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gene Eric; Lazamataz

” Taxpayer picks up the tab anyway”

That must be how they look at it.

I know there are good cops out there, but Westlake Village, CA. needs a SWAT team, like I need another ex wife : )


210 posted on 03/09/2012 2:42:44 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

It is difficult to insert reason into govt arrogance and belligerence. That’s what we’re up against.

I agree, the individual govt employee isn’t the culprit, it’s the nature of the systematic apathy that dehumanizes the Citizens of the Constitution.

Good that you came out virtually unscathed.


211 posted on 03/09/2012 2:58:24 PM PST by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: donna
He got off work just prior to the raid.

They knew where he worked.

Why not set up in the parking lot with a couple undercover cops, and surprise and arrest the suspect before he got to his vehicle. Walk right by him and whammo...he's under arrest. Then search his home.

What is so difficult about that? Why shoot up a home full of kids and neighbors?

212 posted on 03/09/2012 3:00:19 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: donna; org.whodat
Read POST #193

To: donna Once again, read real slow, he was not breaking the law, the cops had no reason to be there. Officer friendly could have called him and picked him up. No problem. This started with cops kicking down the mans door, he did not call them to come out there and kick down his door. From the time the cops put on their little play military gear it was all wrong and on them, he did not start this confrontation they did. The cops did this not the dead man. 193 posted on Friday, March 09, 2012 2:41:34 PM by org.whodat

213 posted on 03/09/2012 3:01:02 PM PST by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: Gene Eric
the individual govt employee isn’t the culprit

Hundreds of thousands of the unionized government employees, waiting to collect their gold plated retirements on the backs of tax payers..Naw...not their fault!

214 posted on 03/09/2012 3:16:08 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: donna
Man killed by SWAT tied to multiple inquiries

Multiple bank robberies? No.

Multiple rapes? No

Multiple crimes? No

Multiple terrorist attacks? No

Multiple attempted murders or assaults? No

Multiple inquiries?

Multiple inquiries?

Are you kidding?

215 posted on 03/09/2012 3:27:59 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Gaffer; Lazamataz
"I suspect that he was creepily enamored of the rather slow witted blond haired guy who hung out with the deaf guy in Stephen King’s “The Stand.”

M.O.O.N. That spells ZOT! ;)

216 posted on 03/09/2012 4:59:02 PM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: dragnet2

They had a search warrant for the house.


217 posted on 03/09/2012 5:22:29 PM PST by donna (Republicans won't change their ways until conservatives draw the line.)
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To: piroque

A judge signed off on the warrant.


218 posted on 03/09/2012 5:24:24 PM PST by donna (Republicans won't change their ways until conservatives draw the line.)
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To: donna
He got off work just prior to the raid.

They knew where he worked.

Why not set up in the parking lot with a couple undercover cops, and surprise and arrest the suspect before he got to his vehicle. Walk right by him and whammo...he's under arrest. Then search his home.

What is so difficult about that? Why shoot up a home full of kids, women and neighbors etc?

They had a search warrant for the house.

Ya walked right by the bold

219 posted on 03/09/2012 5:26:15 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: donna

From your about page....Arbitrary power is most easily established on the ruins of liberty abused to licentiousness.
- George Washington, Circular Letter of Farewell to the Army, June 8, 1783 -

That’s what this is all about!!!


220 posted on 03/09/2012 5:30:38 PM PST by eastforker (Don't be ornery for Romney, instead Root for Newt!)
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To: eastforker

That’s just your cop-hating feelings. You have no standing.


221 posted on 03/09/2012 5:36:09 PM PST by donna (Republicans won't change their ways until conservatives draw the line.)
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To: donna
He got off work just prior to the raid.

They knew where he worked.

Why not set up in the parking lot with a couple undercover cops, and surprise and arrest the suspect before he got to his vehicle. Walk right by him and whammo...he's under arrest. Then search his home.

What is so difficult about that? Why shoot up a home full of kids, women and neighbors etc?

They had a search warrant for the house.

Ya walked right by the bold

In fact, if they even thought this individual was dangerous or posed a threat to LE, why did they no simply arrest the suspect and while he was detained/under arrest, search his home?

222 posted on 03/09/2012 5:38:25 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

The man pointed a gun at the cops and they shot him. That’s what always happens. It will never change.

Lesson: Never point a gun at a cop.


223 posted on 03/09/2012 5:39:15 PM PST by donna (Republicans won't change their ways until conservatives draw the line.)
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To: donna

It is what YOU posted on your profile page!!! Are you saying that if your a cop, it doesn’t matter???That cops are above the law???


224 posted on 03/09/2012 5:39:28 PM PST by eastforker (Don't be ornery for Romney, instead Root for Newt!)
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To: donna
He got off work just prior to the raid.

They knew where he worked.

Why not set up in the parking lot with a couple undercover cops, and surprise and arrest the suspect before he got to his vehicle. Walk right by him and whammo...he's under arrest. Then search his home.

What is so difficult about that? Why shoot up a home full of kids, women and neighbors etc?

They had a search warrant for the house.

Ya walked right by the bold

In fact, if they even thought this individual was dangerous or posed a threat to LE, why did they no simply arrest the suspect and while he was detained/under arrest, search his home?

225 posted on 03/09/2012 6:01:48 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: willamedwardwallace
"an echo chamber of “sovereigns” and libertarian wackos who hate the police?"

This from the guy whining about "defamation" a few posts upthread? Why don't you tell JimRob what you think of his "echo chamber" and see how he likes it?


226 posted on 03/09/2012 6:17:06 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: kiryandil

“Apparently, now I’m a “sovereign”.”

It makes it so much easier to justify killing you if you can be fit into one of the DHS categories for potential domestic terrorists, donchaknow? Makes it easier on the conscience as well, they call it “dehumanization”.


227 posted on 03/09/2012 6:19:48 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Arrowhead1952

Whittling away at The List. Good job, Arrowhead1952.


228 posted on 03/09/2012 6:56:56 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: donna

Where’d ya go donna?

You seemed to have run for the tall grass..

Lets talk!


229 posted on 03/09/2012 7:33:58 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Because they were not going to detain him?

It’s boring talking to you because you have no sources or facts to discuss. All you have is your hatred.


230 posted on 03/09/2012 7:36:52 PM PST by donna (Republicans won't change their ways until conservatives draw the line.)
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To: dragnet2

Well heck Drag, that wouldn’t be any fun for the little dicks now would it? Missing out on getting to gear up with all of their toys, a few steroid blasts for the road, into their attack rigs and THEN getting to execute somebody. Last but not least, they would miss out on a beer call at the nearest pub, glasses raised all around to celebrate another exciting day playing Rambo....followed by a rousing chorus of ‘For he (the ‘perp’) was a jolly good fellow’ doing things your way.


231 posted on 03/09/2012 10:45:37 PM PST by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it doesn't get any better than that!)
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To: donna

Oh, please. They weren’t going to detain him, yet they felt a need to break into the home within 8 seconds? It takes me 8 seconds to register that someone’s at the door, let alone getting to the door.


232 posted on 03/10/2012 12:00:02 AM PST by Politicalmom (Lazamataz for president!! NO MORE RINOS!!)
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To: donna
A judge signed off on the warrant.

So what you're saying is the cops lied to the judge in order to get a warrant , to a home where there was no evidence or crime.

233 posted on 03/10/2012 4:39:27 AM PST by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: willamedwardwallace

Ahh...Willam. Time did tell.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2831777/posts?page=150#150


234 posted on 03/10/2012 5:41:12 AM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: donna
you have no sources or facts

Sources regarding what specifically?

All you have is your hatred.

This seems to be the same exact lines the leftist use.

It's ironic, when the Democrats are in power, government is suddenly honorable and good for you.

235 posted on 03/10/2012 8:56:11 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: piroque; donna

Good post.

It’s interesting to see who here actually supports these types of government actions.


236 posted on 03/10/2012 9:08:29 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Well said. I think you have flushed out a bleeding heart liberal Drag.


237 posted on 03/10/2012 9:54:30 AM PST by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it doesn't get any better than that!)
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To: Politicalmom

Read the entire article:

Man killed by SWAT tied to multiple inquiries
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/06/15/20110615guerena0615.html


238 posted on 03/10/2012 12:38:51 PM PST by donna (Republicans won't change their ways until conservatives draw the line.)
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To: piroque

That’s what YOU say. I don’t know what was in the warrant. They did find a stolen gun.


239 posted on 03/10/2012 12:40:13 PM PST by donna (Republicans won't change their ways until conservatives draw the line.)
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To: dragnet2

I don’t hate cops; I don’t love them either. Answer my questions:

If the federal government is letting illegal aliens gain citizenship by serving in our military and then letting them use their learned skills to do home invasions all over Arizona, what kind of training to you think local cops should receive since they are the only authority trying to handle the problem?

How many shots would you fire if you were the cop trying to serve a warrant on a marine with a gun who lives in a world where he expects other drug runners to do a home invasions on him, just like he does on others?

I’d like to meet the cop who would volunteer to risk his life to politely knock on the door to serve that warrant.


240 posted on 03/10/2012 12:45:38 PM PST by donna (Republicans won't change their ways until conservatives draw the line.)
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To: donna
'They did find a stolen gun."

That was days later , what was it the fourth or the fifth story the cops put out ?

241 posted on 03/10/2012 1:51:23 PM PST by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: donna; Politicalmom

“Man killed by SWAT tied to multiple inquiries” ?????

Multiple bank robberies? No.

Multiple rapes? No

Multiple crimes? No

Multiple terrorist attacks? No

Multiple attempted murders or assaults? No

Tied to multiple inquiries?

Tied to multiple inquiries?

Are you kidding?


242 posted on 03/10/2012 2:07:50 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: donna

So what? YOU said they weren’t going to detain him. If they didn’t need to detain him, then they should have executed the warrant in a civilized manner. There was NO NEED for breaking in after 8 seconds.


243 posted on 03/10/2012 3:18:41 PM PST by Politicalmom (Lazamataz for president!! NO MORE RINOS!!)
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To: Politicalmom

You wouldn’t say that if one of the cops was your father, husband, son, mother, or daughter.


244 posted on 03/10/2012 10:27:09 PM PST by donna (Republicans won't change their ways until conservatives draw the line.)
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To: Politicalmom

FYI:
“SWAT officers turned the sirens on for about seven seconds when they approached the southwest-side house and knocked on the front door three times, announcing themselves for 15 seconds, a video released by the Sheriff’s Department revealed.”


245 posted on 03/10/2012 11:44:53 PM PST by donna (Republicans won't change their ways until conservatives draw the line.)
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To: donna

So what? 22 seconds for a person, especially a sleeping man, to identify that the “cops” are really cops is totally unreasonable.


246 posted on 03/11/2012 1:02:12 AM PST by Politicalmom (Lazamataz for president!! NO MORE RINOS!!)
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To: Politicalmom

You were lying about the time.


247 posted on 03/11/2012 1:06:03 AM PST by donna (Republicans won't change their ways until conservatives draw the line.)
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To: donna

I wasn’t “lying”, jerk. 8 seconds was the time I saw elsewhere. I’m done with you.


248 posted on 03/11/2012 1:09:07 AM PST by Politicalmom (Lazamataz for president!! NO MORE RINOS!!)
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To: Politicalmom

That’s the point. All your hatred is based on misinformation.


249 posted on 03/11/2012 1:11:57 AM PST by donna (Republicans won't change their ways until conservatives draw the line.)
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