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Wikipedia Editing War Erupts Over Obama's Connection to Radical Derrick Bell
Townhall.com ^ | March 10, 2012 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 03/10/2012 4:31:56 AM PST by Kaslin

In light of video surfacing this week showing President Barack Obama fully embracing radical Harvard Professor Derrick Bell, the man who said he lived to "harass white folks," an editing war on the Derrick Bell Wikipedia page has erupted. It looks as though editors are arguing about whether or not to even mention Obama's affiliation with Bell, despite evidence showing that the two were closely connected. It also looks like the page was set as "protected" at one point to avoid controversy. Notice the editing war started on the evening of March 7, just after the connect between Bell and Obama was made on Fox News' Hannity and has continued since then.

Some of the highlights from the screen shots below:

"Unprotected Derrick Bell: maybe I erred, maybe there really is trouble here. I'm not sure, but getting involved here is more hassle than it's worth"

"Academic contributions: no need for a lengthy quote from a harshly critical opinion piece"

"Relationship to President Barack Obama: rm unsourced and false. the entire video has been on pbs.org for years."

"Relationship to President Barack Obama"

"Removed dubious from Obama video reference. Nothing dubious about it"

 

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bell; crt; derrickbell; judcial; judges; liberalpedia; lyingpedia; wikipedia
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1 posted on 03/10/2012 4:31:59 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

To coin a Rush phrase...this is journalistic malpractise


2 posted on 03/10/2012 4:35:03 AM PST by ronnie raygun (B B)
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To: Kaslin

ping


3 posted on 03/10/2012 4:44:18 AM PST by Ulysse
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To: ronnie raygun

It is definitely something like that, but we must not let up


4 posted on 03/10/2012 4:44:27 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: ronnie raygun

It is—but it’s nothing new. The Press has been hiding things from us for years.

The question is why?

Obama is a radical racist, the press knows it and yet they have been deliberately hiding the facts from America.

Why?


5 posted on 03/10/2012 4:44:27 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Kaslin

Socialist/Totalitarian history re-write ALERT!


6 posted on 03/10/2012 4:49:19 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Kaslin

Truth has always been Obama’s worst enemy.


7 posted on 03/10/2012 5:07:51 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Kaslin

The video of Bell at one of the links is mind boggling. He says he “lives to harass white folks” but it isn’t a racial thing.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2012/03/09/radical_professor_obama_embraced_i_live_to_harass_white_folks


8 posted on 03/10/2012 5:09:53 AM PST by MulberryDraw (Newt: "The high price of gas is the deliberate strategy of the left.")
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To: Kaslin
Let me get a crack at it. Commitment: I will add a comment about his affiliation to this racist professor, on the Japanese version of Wikipedia. Most of these US liberal saps cannot read Japanese so they will not know where it appears or how to edit it. But Japanese readers in the millions will be introduced to this aspect of our president. I may also like to an online stream of the Harvard Law School Baraka Obama.

I may then consider this "revision" (or addition) to the bio of Obama in Chinese, German, Russian, Spanish, etc. all over worldwide Wikipedia. It is something full well within my capabilities to do.

9 posted on 03/10/2012 5:10:46 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo ("If your front porch collapses...and more than 4 dogs die.... you MIGHT be a REDNECK!" ;-))
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To: Jack Hammer

It is also the rat’s worst enemy


10 posted on 03/10/2012 5:11:34 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin
This is funny -- the scramble. Watch for this pattern as more is released in the future.

On PBS for years? Yeah WITHOUT audio... "so, open your hearts and minds to the words of Derik Bell"

11 posted on 03/10/2012 5:12:46 AM PST by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

“Like.”


12 posted on 03/10/2012 5:13:38 AM PST by Mrs. P (Figures can lie, and liars can figure.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Sounds great; thanks!


13 posted on 03/10/2012 5:16:06 AM PST by Rocko
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To: Kaslin

Wikipedia = Big Brother


14 posted on 03/10/2012 5:16:43 AM PST by 6SJ7 (Meh.)
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To: Kaslin
The Bell issue is important.

It appears Obama is trying to apply Bells' critical race theory through DOJ and Judges. Where not everyone is equal under the law, justice is not blind..

This is why he said he wants people that can emphasize with the life experience of minorities gays...when chosing Judges.

Sotomayor ,Holder, Kagan..

15 posted on 03/10/2012 5:18:51 AM PST by opentalk
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To: Mrs. P

I will “link” to a stream of the marxist student Obama at Harvard, on those other Wikipedia sites.


16 posted on 03/10/2012 5:21:40 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo ("If your front porch collapses...and more than 4 dogs die.... you MIGHT be a REDNECK!" ;-))
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To: Kaslin
Lol -- "editing war". The author correctly identifies the new battleground.

"whether to even mention Obama..." -- the name that must not be mentioned?

17 posted on 03/10/2012 5:25:07 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (There is life after FR.)
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To: MulberryDraw

That part about harassing white folk, surely Barry learned well.


18 posted on 03/10/2012 5:29:08 AM PST by rovenstinez
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To: Kaslin
Where's the bombshell?

LOL!!
19 posted on 03/10/2012 5:29:23 AM PST by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else (Maybe Tim Thomas))
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To: 6SJ7

wikipedia=Ministry of Truth


20 posted on 03/10/2012 5:30:12 AM PST by beefree
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Good going! (With fond memories of Yokohama)...


21 posted on 03/10/2012 5:32:39 AM PST by squarebarb
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To: opentalk
CRT and Supreme court judge Sotomayor

---"I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life" --

same judge had a ruling overturned , involving white fire fighters with high test scores passed over for jobs, race was a factor

22 posted on 03/10/2012 5:33:23 AM PST by opentalk
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To: ronnie raygun

It’s called Selective Reporting in Journalese...


23 posted on 03/10/2012 5:36:43 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Beware the Sweater Vest)
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To: ronnie raygun
...this is journalistic malpractise

Can we, the public, sue?

24 posted on 03/10/2012 5:41:18 AM PST by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: Kaslin
George Orwell had is so right when he vividly described in his novel 1984 how the Ministry of Truth manipulated history. If you haven't seen the movie version of 1984 it is worth seeing. The scene where Winston Smith is working at his desk in the Ministry of Truth altering past newspaper stories to match the current position of the regime and sending the old versions to a fiery "memory hole" certainly matches what is happening with Prof. Bell Wikipedia pages.
25 posted on 03/10/2012 5:54:16 AM PST by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people's money" M. Thatcher)
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To: nhwingut; mickie
"Where's the bombshell?"

Death by a thousand cuts.

Leni

26 posted on 03/10/2012 6:05:46 AM PST by MinuteGal
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To: beefree
"wikipedia=Ministry of Truth"

Couldn't agree more. This is why the demise of the printed word and the reliance upon books in electronic form makes me cringe. eBooks and YouTube can be wonderful things, but they are also powerful propaganda tools.

I've been trying to persuade my adult children to read or watch 1984, at least where they understand what Winston Smith did at work: he rewrote history to suit the ruling-class party agenda.

I am trying to get them to see that this is EXACTLY what's happening today, and they need to break away from the comfortable feeling that we had as kids -- the "It can't happen here" attitude that assumed that America will always be a just and honest America that defeats the evils of the world and remains true. It CAN happen here and it is happening before our very eyes. We ignore it at our peril.

There will always be spin and there will always be differences of opinion and conflicting interpretations. But we mustn't become comfortable and tolerant of those who willfully change history. We have to point it out when we see it and hold the perpetrators feet to the fire.

27 posted on 03/10/2012 6:10:38 AM PST by DJ Frisat ((optional, printed after my name on post))
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To: The Great RJ
"If you haven't seen the movie version of 1984 it is worth seeing. The scene where Winston Smith is working at his desk in the Ministry of Truth altering past newspaper stories to match the current position of the regime and sending the old versions to a fiery "memory hole" certainly matches what is happening with Prof. Bell Wikipedia pages."

Yup -- that's precisely what I was writing about when you posted this! It's a terrifying scene that's coming true right before our very eyes.

Speaking of the movie, I've seen two versions and prefer the one made in the 50s with Edmund O'Brien, despite its flaws and deviations from Orwell's novel. The one made later, with Richard Burton, puts me to sleep every time! It's dismal & dreary -- logical, because of the subject matter, but it still makes me nod off...

Don't know if it's coincidence or not, but neither version is all that easy to find. You can stream the newer one on Netflix, but they don't have it on DVD. The older one is even harder to get. I stumbled across a copy at a comic book convention last month.

28 posted on 03/10/2012 6:19:01 AM PST by DJ Frisat ((optional, printed after my name on post))
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Oh, please do as you say!

Unfortunately, I can only read the English and Spanish versions...oh multilingualed one!


29 posted on 03/10/2012 6:22:09 AM PST by jrestrepo (See you all in Galt's gulch)
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To: opentalk
It appears Obama is trying to apply Bells' critical race theory through DOJ and Judges.

Did you see this?

"The Vetting: Obama's Supreme Court and Critical Race Theory"

http://tiny.cc/tvkyaw

30 posted on 03/10/2012 6:24:03 AM PST by Dinah Lord
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Thanks Kaslin. The keyword, newest to oldest:
31 posted on 03/10/2012 6:32:13 AM PST by SunkenCiv (I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Kaslin. Astroturf / Partisan shills ping.


32 posted on 03/10/2012 6:32:44 AM PST by SunkenCiv (I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him)
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Congratulations, Andrew Breitbart! You really hit a nerve with this one.


33 posted on 03/10/2012 6:35:47 AM PST by JACKRUSSELL
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To: Kaslin
do I really have to say it???

34 posted on 03/10/2012 6:38:04 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Kaslin

Nothing to see here, just a cabal of liberals frantically filling in the new potholes in their road to the Socialist Utopia.


35 posted on 03/10/2012 6:45:23 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: DJ Frisat

I got a Kindle as a gift a year ago. I’m sure it would be convenient, but I can’t bring myself to pay for a book that, in the physical sense, I can’t keep, underline, pass around. I like to keep them in my library to share with my future gkids. A few years ago, 1984 was removed from peoples Kindles ‘in the middle of the night’...


36 posted on 03/10/2012 7:06:23 AM PST by beefree
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To: Kaslin

You’d think there would be a “controversies” section under these controversial figures’ entries, so that Wikipedia does not have to come down on one side or the other of a politically polarized dispute, but lets the reader decide what references are reliable.


37 posted on 03/10/2012 7:11:45 AM PST by raccoonnookkeeper
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To: beefree
"A few years ago, 1984 was removed from peoples Kindles ‘in the middle of the night’..."

Interesting. I wonder if it was a copyright issue or someone's idea of a 'preemptive strike', lest more people read it and recognize that we're rushing headlong into the direction depicted in the book?

I used to have a paperback copy from back when I first read it, but lost track of it decades ago. Not long ago, I found a free PDF version on the 'net, and I can read it on either my Kindle or a computer.

38 posted on 03/10/2012 7:16:59 AM PST by DJ Frisat ((optional, printed after my name on post))
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To: Kaslin

1984 indeed. George Orwell’s trouble wasn’t that he wrote fiction, but that he wrote the truth before it happened.


39 posted on 03/10/2012 7:33:53 AM PST by Oceander (TINSTAAFL - Mother Nature Abhors a Free Lunch almost as much as She Abhors a Vacuum)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Isn’t the problem with this strategy that every wiki page has an “owner” who gets “notified” every time there is a change to a page? Presumably that owner *can* read Japanese and if they disagree with your comments they’ll be edited right out, regardless of how many others can or can’t read Japanese.


40 posted on 03/10/2012 7:37:22 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

Yes, but one can monitor any changes and put something right back up, plus, when it comes to specific YouTubes that PROVE the assertion about Obama with no room for error, I doubt, in the case of Japanese Wikipedia, they will challenge it or take it down.


41 posted on 03/10/2012 7:48:06 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (I do not disrupt Newt threads. I do not naysay or troll there. Respect my Santorum threads, please.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Exactly - so you end up with a Japanese version of what is being described in this thread - a Wikipedia Editing War. I’m not saying don’t do it. Far from it. Just not sure that your assertion that things will work out somehow differently because the text is in Japanese is a valid one.


42 posted on 03/10/2012 7:55:32 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: AmericanInTokyo

What a great idea!


43 posted on 03/10/2012 8:40:56 AM PST by Anima Mundi
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To: Kaslin
There's a memory hole loop
44 posted on 03/10/2012 9:05:39 AM PST by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: SunkenCiv
Man, what a bunch of interesting links...did I see that Bell visited WH in 2010? .

I guess it must be Bush's fault...

BTTT!

45 posted on 03/10/2012 9:21:09 AM PST by hummingbird (SPARTACUS --->BREITBART --->FREEPERS CARRY ON FORWARD.)
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To: DJ Frisat

Family gave me a NooK last Christmas.

Do Kindle and NooK mess around with original writings? For some reason I’ve been buying hard backs of W, Rick Perry, Coulter, Beck, Hannity, Rush, et al.

Are hardcovers edited after 1st edition.

I’ve been looking to get “The Screwtape Letters”. Would that have been messed with, too.

If political books (from the Conservative side of the fence) have been altered, are books with religious themes or written by faith based authors (Christians and Jews) also rewritten?


46 posted on 03/10/2012 9:31:13 AM PST by hummingbird (SPARTACUS --->BREITBART --->FREEPERS - ONWARDS AND UPWARDS!)
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To: tophat9000

What is a “memory hole loop”?

TIA


47 posted on 03/10/2012 9:33:45 AM PST by hummingbird (SPARTACUS --->BREITBART --->FREEPERS - ONWARDS AND UPWARDS!)
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To: hummingbird
Try going to the Gutenburg project for free, public domain, books. There is a lot of stuff and you can get it in a Kindle format.

For C.S. Lewis stuff, stay away from anything that has been edited by Walter Hooper. This is the guy who inveigled himself into the position of managing Lewis's literary estate from Lewis's brother shortly after Lewis's death. Before that, Hooper had helped Lewis briefly one summer after Lewis got out of the hospital to move things around at home when Hooper was over in England for some graduate school business. After he heard of Lewis's death later that year, he flew back over and the rest is history. He has since taken to referring to himself as Lewis's live-in secretary for an extensive time before his death, but he had actually been living in the U.S. and teaching at a private school. His sole contact with Lewis was that part time job in the summer before Lewis's death. People who are familiar with Lewis have referred to Walter Hooper's versions as the "waltered" versions. See The C.S. Lewis Hoax and later versions for more information on this literary tragedy.
48 posted on 03/10/2012 9:42:47 AM PST by aruanan
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Go for it, and good luck!


49 posted on 03/10/2012 9:46:42 AM PST by lonevoice (Klepto Baracka Marxo, impeach we much.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Include this: http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/07-03-2012/120708-arizona_sheriff_obama-0/ The world is suffering from this man’s crimes.


50 posted on 03/10/2012 9:49:31 AM PST by Danae (Anáil nathrach, ortha bháis is beatha, do chéal déanaimh)
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