Posted on 03/11/2012 12:12:06 PM PDT by tobyhill
At least 14 youths have been stoned to death in Baghdad in the past three weeks in what appears to be a campaign by Shi'ite militants against youths wearing Western-style "emo" clothes and haircuts, security and hospital sources say.
Militants in Shi'ite neighborhoods where the stonings have taken place circulated lists on Saturday naming more youths targeted to be killed if they do not change the way they dress.
The killings have taken place since Iraq's interior ministry drew attention to the "emo" subculture last month, labeling it "Satanism" and ordering a community police force to stamp it out.
"Emo" is a form of punk music developed in the United States. Fans are known for their distinctive dress, often including tight jeans, T-shirts with logos and distinctive long or spiky haircuts.
At least 14 bodies of youths have been brought to three hospitals in eastern Baghdad bearing signs of having been beaten to death with rocks or bricks, security and hospital sources told Reuters under condition they not be identified because they were not authorized to speak to the media.
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They’re HIS PEOPLE.
Ah, but it does matter. Sure this is an "anonymous" forum. But I have a suspicion that what you say here is what you say to people in your real world daily life. And I would bet there are plenty of out there and people who read this forum who will say to themselves "Thank you Norm". Not that I am speaking for them. Just speaking for me.
My daughter served in Iraq. Willingly. Gate duty while in-country. Made it back whole. I wish they all had. I supported the war thinking it was going to be that. A war, and one that would be for a reason. Instead, it has become Vietnam 2 or worse.
I genuinely do regret that support more every day. Because our Cowards in office have no courage of conviction, no sense of right and wrong and no regard for the lives they wasted there. And I mistakenly supported that.
I AM sorry.
Give Jordan, Syria and Lebanon to the Jews as well as control of the Suez canal.
Don't nuke egypt, but use moabs and drones one them.
Ax iraq and turkey if they want glass instead of sand, and tell both china and russia to piss off.
Also, inform china that we are cancelling our debt, and if they object, start checking their coast line for our boomers {oh, they can't find them. too bad}.
I know I'm taking a very peace loving and maybe even pussy stance, but it is Sunday and I did Mass, so I'm feeling very mellow today.
The reason they knuckled under was because we killed millions of their fighting men and millions of their civilians. Weirdly enough, our victory over the Taliban was too quick - too antiseptic. Most of the Pashtuns' fighting age males are still alive. The lesson of the Afghan campaign is that you haven't defeated the enemy until you have cowed them into submission - by killing a significant percentage of their fighters. For a country the size of Afghanistan that number is at least 500K. We've done less than 100K. What Bush needed to hammer home, in the initial euphoria of the Taliban's initial defeats, was that guerrilla war is the type of war where casualties are relatively light, but they go on for a long time, because this type of war helps preserve the enemy's fighting strength. The reason the Germans and the Japanese did not have the option of a guerrilla war was because their manpower was exhausted, and their civilians had been pushed to the brink in terms of family members and friends killed in combat and were on the brink of starvation. Japan and Germany lost 5% and 10% of their populations in WW2. The equivalent Afghan casualty count would be 1.5m or 3m dead.
You better believe it was.
The two biggest counterweights to radical Islam were the Shah of Iran and Saddam Hussein.
Carter got rid of the Shah, Bush II got rid of Saddam. Idiotic.
A little believin’ and you go all soft on us.....damn.... ;)
I guess it goes back to the pussification of the American male. Those elected, even many who served prior, forgot what war really is and how to fight it. Instead, they bought into PC ‘clean’ warfare. How the hell do you fight a war when enemy casualties are a greater concern than your own? As in being worried about killing too many people?
Pussified idiots. Add every one of our war dead to the 9/11 count of the people PC has killed.
I can accept this I genuinely do regret
I reserve I AM sorry for those truly sorry sons of beeotches in the White Hut, and other places...
And thank your daughter for her service, from me.
I think most people would agree that there is an inherent feeling in people to place a trust in their leaders to protect and defend their best interests. It isn't those people who fail(ed) when those leaders prove otherwise.
And just so you know, Sgt. Evan Vela is my nephew. If you have any interest you can search FR with the keyword “vela”.
I will, and I’ll relay your message.
Thank you.
Trying to civilize Muslims is like trying to teach a cat not to kill birds. What can you do about a society that kills its own youth?
Trying to civilize Muslims is like trying to teach a cat not to kill birds.I think it's more like trying to teach flies not to eat sh*t.
I for one would be interested in what the Koran says about men wearing their pants down around their thighs.
Agreed
I was feeling so mellow I thought I was a liberal, had a couple of Johnny Walkers and a nap and now I’m back to my old mean self. Just go with my tag line, no mercy.
Thank god...must be a hell of a preacher you got there. Keep him away from any Repub candidates until the 2nd week of Nov. ;)
Militants in Shi'ite neighborhoods where the stonings have taken place circulated lists on Saturday naming more youths targeted to be killed if they do not change the way they dress.
Why counter Iranian threats, when the mullahs' regime could've been and still can be completely removed ? Isn't & wasn't that a better & more logical way?
I don't recall Iran being a threat to any country, at least not for 50 yrs before the mullahs (Khomeinist) regime came to power in 1979.
I think you make excellent points. Would add that this "Islamic Spring" didn't start in 2010-2011. It started in 1979 with Khomeini and Iran. Carter and Brzezinski were in charge.
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