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Screaming On 911 Tape NOT Zimmerman, Experts [Gee, Are These Guys NBC Employees, Too?]
care2.com ^ | 4/1/12 | Paul Canning

Posted on 04/02/2012 3:18:46 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

Audio experts hired by the Orlando Sentinel have determined that the person screaming for help on a 911 call is not George Zimmerman.

A woman called 911 to report screaming outside her house. In the background of her call can be heard the panicked cries and the gunshot that took Trayvon Martin’s life...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: bias; race; trayvonmartin
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To: Dusty Road

“Pinch his snutz with a pair of pliers...”

OUCH! That’d make a helluva noise! You bad.


41 posted on 04/02/2012 5:20:26 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (I'd vote for a "orange juice can", before 0bummer&HisRegimeFromHell, gets another 4yrs. Can-> later.)
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To: dewawi

He’s also a court-qualified expert witness who has a long history of working with the FBI and other federal agencies, police departments, private detectives, prosecutors, defense attorneys, and news organizations.

In 1981 the New York Police Department asked him to help decipher a surveillance tape involving the Weather Underground. More recently confirmed the identity of Osama bin Laden on communiques from the terrorist.


42 posted on 04/02/2012 5:25:09 AM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: SoFloFreeper

Since the funeral director guy for Trayvon just came out and said there were no marks on the body....why would he be screaming and whimpering like he was being beaten?

Zimmerman has the wounds, two witnesses have him on the ground being beaten by Trayvon (1 later changed his story to say he was not sure who was on bottom)... but Trayvon did the screaming for help?


43 posted on 04/02/2012 5:34:04 AM PDT by icwhatudo (Tax codes and spending don't get 14 year olds pregnant and on welfare. Morality Matters.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
I'm not sure any of the crap that's going around would stand up in court. It's just more fuel on the flames of racial hate, just pushing us closer to burning cities and dead people.

The press, for the most part, is going to be at fault for much of what is likely coming.

44 posted on 04/02/2012 5:38:50 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: SoFloFreeper

A magic computer program working on an extremely poor quality audio file only had a 48% match with Zimmerman, but we don’t know what kind of match with Martin because there is no reference sample, so therefore it can’t be Zimmerman’s voice and must be Martin’s voice.

Magic computer programs are also the only evidence for Global Warming/Climate Change or whatever else they are calling it these days.

Those magic computer programs sure are handy.


45 posted on 04/02/2012 5:41:18 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Over half of U.S. murders are of black people, and 90% of them are committed by other black people.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Martin’s father told detectives that it wasn’t his son on the recording that was played for him. It must be awful to listen if a loved one screams on a tape. So sometime after that the family changed their mind, anyone know when this happened? Did Martin’s dad address changing his mind?

Freegards


46 posted on 04/02/2012 5:41:57 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Ransomed

It is quite possible that Trayvon’s Dad changed his mind after the experts said that it was most likely Trayvon screaming. The Dad may have been tipped on the “experts” opinion before the public was “informed” of the results.


47 posted on 04/02/2012 5:46:03 AM PDT by dforest
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To: SoFloFreeper

The hollering was from the woman caller’s little kid, Jeremy. Both were inside their apartment. You won’t hear that from the msm because that doesn’t fit their agenda.


48 posted on 04/02/2012 5:51:14 AM PDT by bgill
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To: SoFloFreeper

Feh. They quote a witness who says she heard but did not see, who believes the calls for help were Martin.

There are witnesses who both saw and heard who said Zimmerman was calling for help.

I believe Martin gave a death scream - but the calls for help were almost certainly Zimmerman.


49 posted on 04/02/2012 5:52:52 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: dforest

That is possible I guess, although it seems like it would be pretty shoddy detective work to lead anyone on like that before the tape is played. Is that what Martin’s father says happened? I googled around the other day and it seems now the family does think it is him, but I wondered if anyone has addressed telling the lead detective that it wasn’t him, at first.

Like I said, listening to a tape of the death of a loved one for screams must truly be one of the worst things to have to do ever. I’m not even saying it is unreasonable to change ones mind about it, I am just wondering if the family addressed the change or what.

Freegards


50 posted on 04/02/2012 5:55:10 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yup. A magic computer program gave me the wining numbers for the mega millions lottery..

But yet..

Here I am getting ready to go to work..

Because it was so wrong, I didn’t even match 1 number.


51 posted on 04/02/2012 5:55:48 AM PDT by cableguymn (Good thing I am a conservative. Otherwise I would have to support Mittens like Republicans do.)
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To: dewawi

Maybe he posted it because it’s news. This hit the newspapers yesterday, and, believe me, it plays right into the hands of those who want to make Zimmerman guilty, no matter what. The Houston Chronicle was loaded with comments.


52 posted on 04/02/2012 5:56:51 AM PDT by Clara Lou (ABO! Go Newt!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

NBC of course being the station that edited Zimmerman’s call to the police as follows: “He looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black.”

Zimmerman said nothing about race until the dispatcher asked him - and the dispatcher’s question is entirely gone from the NBC version.

NBC is as unbiased a source as the Martin family lawyer.


53 posted on 04/02/2012 5:57:33 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: SoFloFreeper

Questions:
1) Would Zimmerman’s, or anyone’s, normal voice match the sounds he makes while: a) someone is sitting on him; b) he has a freshly smashed, bloody nose; c) someone is beating his head into the ground; and, d) he is in a life-or-death panic?

2) IF the screaming is not Zimmerman’s, is it necessarily Trayvon’s? The Martin partisans now say “yes”, but initially Trayvon’s father insisted it was not his son’s voice. Can’t TM’s family or friends supply a voice sample from a cell phone, etc.?

3) IF neither, the screamer is a third party witness horrified by a violent. Test against the known witnesses (the 13-year old girl ABC outed?). If not the known witness’s voice, find the new witness/solve the case.


54 posted on 04/02/2012 5:59:19 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: SoFloFreeper

If its not Zimmerman or Martin, then who is it?

lol


55 posted on 04/02/2012 6:04:48 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: dewawi

I accidently stopped channel surfing on NBC’s Friday evening news a couple nights ago and nearly threw up. The talking head was blathering on and on about poor widdle angel Trayvon and big mean white (just short of KKK) Zimmerman. Oooh, Zimmerman has a record. Oooh, Zimmerman has had altercations with a cop and a female. Oooh, a cop!!!! Oooh, another person he could control, a female!!! Ooooh, here’s proof with a pic of the meanie in his prison orange!!! The talking head’s sole purpose in the rant was ban guns because if only those idiot judges had sent him to prison for life over those charges like they should have done then he wouldn’t have been chasing little boys around the neighborhood and killing them. Yeah, it was bad government policy to allow this horrible criminal a permit. How could the government be so stupid?!? BAN GUNS!!!

Whatever.


56 posted on 04/02/2012 6:05:28 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Yogafist

:: Then why did the screaming stop after the gun shot was heard? ::

Simple, because Z. was no longer being beaten and didn’t have a need to scream any longer.


57 posted on 04/02/2012 6:08:57 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: EBH
Of course not. He doesn't have a voice comparison for the kid. So there is no way he can say it was the kid.

Especially since, according to news media pictures, Trayvon was like 10 years old.
58 posted on 04/02/2012 6:27:57 AM PDT by crosshairs (Some ideas are so stupid, only intellectuals believe them. --- George Orwell)
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To: bgill

Listen to the tape. There’s a link in post #39. It was not Jeremy!


59 posted on 04/02/2012 6:29:41 AM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: Alice in Wonderland

One thing I notice is on 2 or 3 of the 911 calls
The people report someone screaming for help.
They are asked if it’s man or woman, all of them without question say man.

My guess is Zimmerman screams would be more like a man then Martin’s
Just a gues but most 17 year old boy screams would be harder to tell.
May not be the case here.


60 posted on 04/02/2012 6:47:34 AM PDT by NoDRodee (U>S>M>C)
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