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Why donít Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum just quit?
The Washington Post ^ | April 6, 2012 | Jonathan Renshon, Jennifer Lerner and Philip Tetlock,

Posted on 04/06/2012 1:30:41 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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...For candidates such as Santorum and Gingrich, a loss would be highly public. When you’re the exciting new candidate, you’re likely to focus on the endless possibilities, and optimism rules the day. But when the polls turn against you, the fear of failure starts to weigh more heavily. Despite whatever they go on to do, the stigma of losing can be nearly impossible to shake. For example, a Los Angeles Times headline last summer read “Failed presidential candidate Al Gore attacks winning candidate Obama over his environment policies.” The story had nothing to do with campaigning, yet Gore was still branded as a loser.

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....How could they misread reality when there’s so much information (i.e. nonstop polling) about how they’re doing? Well, having so much information makes it easy to evaluate a situation in a way that reflects well on ourselves and is consistent with our beliefs. Losing a primary might be interpreted in a candidate’s mind as a better-than-expected result (still a defeat, but not as bad as the naysayers predicted!) or even as irrelevant (especially in the states where delegates are allocated proportionally to the share of the vote).

Fortunately, some of these pathologies are avoidable. If candidates set objective benchmarks for themselves before campaigning, it would be harder for them to spin results in their favor.

But candidates are still human — no matter how smart and capable they might be. When Bob Dole said last month that it was “getting close to the point” where Santorum should decide whether to drop out, he acknowledged his own difficulty in giving up his pursuit for the 1988 GOP nomination. “As much as you don’t want to do it, sometimes you have to face reality.”

And the reality is, we already have a Republican nominee: Mitt Romney.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservatism; gingrich2012; gopprimary; kenyanbornmuzzie; mittromney; newtgingrich; ricksantorum; santorum2012; superdelegates
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"Pretty please."

It took 3 people to write this little ditty.

However, the Obama administration will not have Mitt to zero in on before the GOP Tampa convention in August. And once we're at the convention, then we will be able to learn how the delegates shake out -- have a conversation with the GOP Establishment. I know the party bosses had other plans but so did we and it didn't include another hand-picked moderate nominee pushed on us.

Oh and.... RNC neutrality challenged on Romney

1 posted on 04/06/2012 1:30:49 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Like Churchill?


2 posted on 04/06/2012 1:31:45 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Newtrition - soul food for a starving America.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Mitt Romney is a suicide vest wrapped around the chest of the GOP.


3 posted on 04/06/2012 1:33:18 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

3 people to write this crap. All they are doing is asking conservatives to throw in the towel before the primaries are finished.


4 posted on 04/06/2012 1:33:48 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Neither Newt’s supporters nor Santorum’s want their candidate to quit.

I want them to see this through to the bloody end.


5 posted on 04/06/2012 1:34:08 PM PDT by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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To: sodpoodle
Nominate Romney and we might as well all put this on:


6 posted on 04/06/2012 1:37:48 PM PDT by garjog
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The fact that the Left wants them to tells me they should stay in.


7 posted on 04/06/2012 1:39:02 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Over half of U.S. murders are of black people, and 90% of them are committed by other black people.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Despite whatever they go on to do, the stigma of losing can be nearly impossible to shake.

Mitt Romney has lost more elections than he's won, yet he won't go away.

8 posted on 04/06/2012 1:39:54 PM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Because the media can’t get the truth out, a few candidates for Presidents can do what the media fails to do. Also a live event has more impact the a million newspapers. In my book that is what I call priceless.


9 posted on 04/06/2012 1:41:33 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: cripplecreek

Hi CC: You know as well as I do that the same people own both parties so either way the establishment wins over the people. God have mercy.


10 posted on 04/06/2012 1:45:45 PM PDT by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
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To: SatinDoll

I agree.

Since Mitt is the “obvious chosen candidate and cannot lose” (/s) what difference does it make if they stay in?

I’d like to see it go to the convention.


11 posted on 04/06/2012 1:47:18 PM PDT by berdie
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Why don’t Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum just quit?
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I don’t know, maybe because they are like a coach and they see us giving up and they are showing us the way—don’t quit.

Maybe because Gingrich pledged to us— my life, my fortune, and my sacred honor. This is about America.

Or maybe they are tenacious power hungry turds.

Or maybe everybody should have a chance to vote their conscience, not just a few states deciding for the rest of us.

Maybe it is just the point of it all. Why should the GOP be god and determine for the rest of us how it is going to be.

Maybe Romney will come out of this with more respect and deference for those he wishes to vote for him.

Maybe Romney will have learned how to better stand up to Obama by having to struggle for his nomination.

Why don’t the peanut gallery just shut up and not worry about it—que sera sera.


12 posted on 04/06/2012 1:48:55 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: SatinDoll

BUMP!


13 posted on 04/06/2012 1:53:21 PM PDT by GVnana (Newt 2012 - He Speaks for Us)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I want to hear what Texas has to say. I think if Romney and Paul are their only choices it will be a super low turnout and maybe even a Paul win.

If Mendacious Mitt gets the nomination the only way he will be able to beat Obama after all his anti-conservative mudslinging will be if he picks a Tea Party Veep and swears to serve only one term.

The ONLY way he can beat Zero.

14 posted on 04/06/2012 1:57:15 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("ONE TERM MITT__SARAH 2016")
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To: garjog

Four More Years (A Few THOUSAND More Tears)


15 posted on 04/06/2012 1:58:29 PM PDT by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: GeronL

I think the GOP should man up and publicly ask the remaining states to call off their primaries and save some money.

Throw all the cards out on the table and come right out and tell the people that the GOP doesn’t care what they want.


16 posted on 04/06/2012 1:59:42 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek
Mitt Romney is a suicide vest wrapped around the chest of the GOP.

LOL! That's a keeper!

17 posted on 04/06/2012 2:02:49 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: cripplecreek

Better yet, the remaining states could just ask Mitt Romney which candidates he would prefer we nominate for Senate and House races too.


18 posted on 04/06/2012 2:07:46 PM PDT by ngat
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To: cripplecreek

If they actually did that, I think I’d actually be hoping for a new party very quickly


19 posted on 04/06/2012 2:09:23 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: GeronL
If they actually did that, I think I’d actually be hoping for a new party very quickly

Which is exactly why they don't have the courage to do it. They'd rather blow millions of dollars with a farce to keep the slaves on the plantation.

I was watching "The Village" the other night and was struck by the similarities to the way the political parties are. The mythical monsters in the woods keep us from getting too curious.
20 posted on 04/06/2012 2:15:02 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I do not want either of them to quit unless one agrees to endorse the other... mitt the sh!thead liberal baby killer is just that bad. You want to know why the elite do not want a war at the convention?

1) They are all manginas!

2) mitt cannot buy those of us that will fight them on the floor.

LLS


21 posted on 04/06/2012 2:15:47 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: cripplecreek
Throw all the cards out on the table and come right out and tell the people that the GOP doesn’t care what they want.

Then at least they could brag that they were "keeping it real" ..... and congratulate each other down at the Yacht Club boat dock all the way to the non-convention. Hey, they should call that off, too.

Just hold a spectacular Lustration and Immaculation of Bishop Willard at the Bohemian Grove, instead. It'd be .... impressive.

22 posted on 04/06/2012 2:16:07 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Why doesn’t Romney just quit? The guy is evil, not just stupid.

Who is running the LDS church these days? I know Romney is an important bishop, but is he their head guy now?

He is a flagrant supporter of gay marriage and taxpayer funded baby killing. Does the Mormon Church approve of that?

Apparently. Because Romney probably couldn’t have gotten his current lead without 95% of the Mormons in the country turning out to vote for him, especially in the key Mormon states that vote early.

Does the LDS Church really want to be led and personified by a gay activist baby killer? Is that the image of themselves they want to spread? It’s not the way I had previously thought about them. But I’m afraid that this latest election cycle is demonstrating that they are more interested in bowing down to their leaders than in what they have historically taught to be the truth.


23 posted on 04/06/2012 2:18:31 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: cripplecreek

The Democrats base being stupid people they are more obvious about the monsters.

war on women and all that


24 posted on 04/06/2012 2:22:17 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Why don’t people who write for the Washington Post just just the h-e-double-hockey-sticks up? Just asking.


25 posted on 04/06/2012 2:24:53 PM PDT by JaguarXKE
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To: lentulusgracchus

Today’s gop has become the party of Lovey and Thurston Howell III.

LLS


26 posted on 04/06/2012 2:29:09 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: JaguarXKE

I like that idea.


27 posted on 04/06/2012 2:53:02 PM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Why can’t Romney just get abducted by ETs? They don’t need to bring him back.


28 posted on 04/06/2012 2:53:02 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’m no Romney fan.

If Romney had Santorum’s number of delegates I’d say Romney should drop out. The other two (I was a Newt guy) should have already gotten out. The voters have spoken, it’s time to take on Obama.

Some people think the race is about them rather than the country. That would be Paul, Santorum, Gingrich and the people who want them to stay in.

They are all helping Obama at this point. But that doesn’t bother them.


29 posted on 04/06/2012 2:56:49 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....The days are long, but the years are short.....)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

They always talk like this. After RFK announced in 1968, they put pressure on Gene McCarthy to step down. When he didn’t, the Kennedy-klan played rough, to the point where McCarthy was determined not to. After Kennedy was killed, his followers tried to take over, and when he refused to deal, they began putting out a lot of stuff that McCarthy was supposedly saying. The furthest Gene was willing to go was to agree to step down in favor of Teddy, but the Kennedy bunch made further stipulations that McCarthy could not accept, and then they bad mouthed him to one and all. Many defected to Hubert and others to McGovern, but all blamed McCarthy for not “leading.” Much of what happened reminds me of what happened to Palin in 2008. Many in the McCarthy camp were double dealers.And they wondered why McCarthy endorsed no one until October. He had found that Nixon was more open to peace than Hubert.


30 posted on 04/06/2012 3:27:12 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I want em all the way to the end, so we have a chance of picking a real republican (and hopefully, a conservative).


31 posted on 04/06/2012 3:31:53 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
If Newt, Rick and Ron quit right now, the press would go silent on anything related to Republicans until the convention, except if they can make fun of Romney. If I were Romney and these three looked like they'd be quitting the race, I'd consider paying two or more to stay in just to keep the publicity going. It also keeps the base involved, even if just for the other candidates.

From the point of a conservative, I also prefer keeping Mitt's feet to the fire until the Convention. If he was handed the nomination by default tomorrow, by the time the convention came around, he'll have juggled the etch-a-sketch and lost the base. An unenthusiastic convention would kill his chances for November. The only hope with a Mitt candidacy is if he ever recognizes that he can lose the base and that losing the base would cost him the election. However, I can't see him every saying anything that would excite the base.

If the base is involved in the convention, I think Romney believes that even if their candidate loses, they will have sunk so much effort into the Republican/conservative cause that they will support Romney to avoid having to cut their losses.

But, this year I'm cutting my losses. I'd vote for Romney, but only if he's running as Sarah's VP.

32 posted on 04/06/2012 3:46:49 PM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Why don’t Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum just quit?

Because it's not their (or anyone else's, for that matter) role in life to do what might please you.

No further comment necessary.

33 posted on 04/06/2012 3:52:44 PM PDT by Publius6961 (A)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
>"Why don’t Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum just quit?"

Because we don't feel like losing to BHO or his little all white brother!

34 posted on 04/06/2012 3:52:44 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: garjog
Nominate Romney and we might as well all put this on:

So?

I'd rather "write in" Ginrich and see what happens. My choice. Buzz off.

If a candidate will only give me the same result as Obama, only slower, I'd rather have a quicker resolution. Again my choice.

35 posted on 04/06/2012 3:57:57 PM PDT by Publius6961 (A)
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To: ngat
"Better yet, the remaining states could just ask Mitt Romney"

Better yet, why don't we just speed the process up and make Mitt god of planet earth now?


36 posted on 04/06/2012 4:11:49 PM PDT by garjog
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To: Publius6961

“I’d rather “write in” Ginrich and see what happens”

What I mean is that a Romney nomination pretty much guarantees an Obama second term.

He will be like Bob Dole. Loser extraordinaire.


37 posted on 04/06/2012 4:19:13 PM PDT by garjog
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To: garjog
With that statement, I totally agree.

The only president I ever voted for who bought the presidency was JFK.

A mistake I've never repeated.

38 posted on 04/06/2012 4:26:09 PM PDT by Publius6961 (A)
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To: RobbyS
They always talk like this. After RFK announced in 1968, they put pressure on Gene McCarthy to step down. When he didn’t, the Kennedy-klan played rough, to the point where McCarthy was determined not to. After Kennedy was killed, his followers tried to take over, and when he refused to deal, they began putting out a lot of stuff that McCarthy was supposedly saying. The furthest Gene was willing to go was to agree to step down in favor of Teddy, but the Kennedy bunch made further stipulations that McCarthy could not accept, and then they bad mouthed him to one and all. Many defected to Hubert and others to McGovern, but all blamed McCarthy for not “leading.” Much of what happened reminds me of what happened to Palin in 2008. Many in the McCarthy camp were double dealers.And they wondered why McCarthy endorsed no one until October. He had found that Nixon was more open to peace than Hubert.

Over the next few years, McCarthy's views had changed so much that in 1979, he addressed the annual convention of the Young Americans for Freedom. However, as he got up to speak, some of us chanted, "Joe! Joe! Joe!"--for another McCarthy.

39 posted on 04/06/2012 4:31:14 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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Click

40 posted on 04/06/2012 4:34:46 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: SaxxonWoods; All; Jim Robinson; Admin Moderator

“Some people think the race is about them rather than the country. That would be Paul, Santorum, Gingrich and the people who want them to stay in......They are all helping Obama at this point. But that doesn’t bother them.”

You are ENTIRELY OUT OF LINE sir! There are a great many of us that think Romney would be just as bad a Obama. Because you can’t see that doesn’t give you the warrant to say those of us who do ARE NOT THINKING OF THEIR COUNTRY. Saying, that in your opinion, they should throw in the towel is OK. However, when you impugn the motives of MANY of us that don’t agree....you have stepped over a line you should not.

You owe us ALL an apology to say we are “not thinking of our country.” Maybe we “think” better and wiser than you sir!


41 posted on 04/06/2012 7:29:10 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas

So you would rather keep the narcissistic socialist/ Marxist fool you know rather than elect someone who you think is just as bad as he is?

where is your spirit of adventure?


42 posted on 04/06/2012 7:34:29 PM PDT by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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To: Sola Veritas

Im not gonna let your thinking get in the way of anyone else who wants that job and can get it,

ABO


43 posted on 04/06/2012 7:36:23 PM PDT by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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“So you would rather keep the narcissistic socialist/ Marxist fool.....”

No of course I don’t want him. However, I don’t see that a nacissistic socialist, homosexual enabling, liberal, and mormon cultist fool is any improvement. Also, he might forever ruin any chance of getting a true conservative elected.

Obama is recognizable evil, Romney is disguised evil. Both are evil. I don’t want either.

The only hope is an open convention to get a better candidate. Thus, I’m all for Newt and Rick going the distance.


44 posted on 04/06/2012 8:19:14 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: woofie; All

“Im not gonna let your thinking get in the way of anyone else who wants that job and can get it”

Do what you think best. Just don’t impugn the character of us that don’t agree. If you feel you must question my intelligence or wisdom....so be it. I’m certainly doing the same for the “ABO” mentality that will let the likes of Romney represent the GOP without a full fight.


45 posted on 04/06/2012 8:25:41 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Huh. Why dont they ever pick on RON PAUL?

FWIW, there’s a simple metric to decide to stay in or not - can you possibly win?

Ron Paul and Newt cannot mathematically win at this point. That’s why newt blathers about a brokered convention and Ron Paul supporters gear up for a convention ‘strategy’; There is zero chance they can win.

Santorum mathematically can win (but reality is closing in ...), but since Jan, he’s not had a 1on1 shot vs Romney.

So why are Newt and Ron Paul making it harder on Rick Santorum? That’s the real question.


46 posted on 04/06/2012 9:23:34 PM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: FoxInSocks
Mitt Romney has lost more elections than he's won, yet he won't go away.

And the one election that he's won, he ran on a pro-abortion platform. The folks who have no problem with voting for him don't seem too bothered by the murder of unborn children, so it's no surprise.
47 posted on 04/07/2012 1:01:41 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Happy Rain
I want to hear what Texas has to say. I think if Romney and Paul are their only choices it will be a super low turnout and maybe even a Paul win.

5 out of the top 6 cities in Texas went for Obama in 2008, and Romney has folks like Lamar Smith on his side. Romney is liable to walk away with Texas.
48 posted on 04/07/2012 1:03:06 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr; Happy Rain

http://www.uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?f=0&year=2008&fips=48

Romney always does best in high population density areas (sort of like the Democrats do).


49 posted on 04/07/2012 4:08:26 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: garjog

Please cease posting pictorial satires such as that, as it caused me a coffee/keyboard incident this morning when I saw it.


50 posted on 04/07/2012 9:21:52 AM PDT by ngat
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