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George Washington named Britain's greatest ever foe
The Telegraph ^ | 4-14-12 | Jason Copping

Posted on 04/15/2012 3:20:17 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

The American was voted the winner in a contest run by the National Army Museum to identify the country's most outstanding military opponent.

He was one of a shortlist of five leaders who topped a public poll and on Saturday was selected as the ultimate winner by an audience of around 70 guests at a special event at the museum, in Chelsea, west London.

In second place was Michael Collins, the Irish leader, ahead of Napoleon Bonaparte, Erwin Rommel and Mustafa Kemal Atatürk.

At the event, each contender had their case made by a historian giving a 40 minute presentation. The audience, who had paid to attend the day, then voted in a secret ballot after all five presentations had been made.

Dr Stephen Brumwell, who had championed Washington, said: "As British officers conceded, he was a worthy opponent."

The shortlist of five were selected from an initial list of 20 candidates, drawn up by the museum's curators.

To qualify, each commander had to come from the 17th century onwards – the period covered by the museum's collection – and had to have led an army in the field against the British, thus excluding political enemies, like Adolf Hitler.

The contest was designed to not only identify Britain's most outstanding opponent, but also to draw attention to some lesser-known adversaries.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: enemy; godsgravesglyphs; history; unitedkingdom; war
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Washington was the winner in a contest run by the National Army Museum to identify the country's most outstanding military opponent

1 posted on 04/15/2012 3:20:19 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Washington had important allies.

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2 posted on 04/15/2012 3:24:20 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
By the all-powerful dispensations of Providence, I have been protected beyond all human probability and expectation; for I had four bullets through my coat, and two horses shot under me, yet escaped unhurt, altho' death was levelling my companions on every side.

- GEORGE WASHINGTON, letter to John A. Washington, Jul. 18, 1755
3 posted on 04/15/2012 3:27:53 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Hitler didn’t crack the top 3.


4 posted on 04/15/2012 3:33:04 AM PDT by windcliff
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To: windcliff

“Hitler didn’t crack the top 3.”

“To qualify....had to have led an army in the field against the British, thus excluding political enemies, like Adolf Hitler.”


5 posted on 04/15/2012 3:43:34 AM PDT by JoeDetweiler
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To: windcliff
Hitler didn’t crack the top 3.

According to the article, the contest was for generals in the battle field, not political leaders. For this reason, Rommel, Hitler's general, made to Top 5 but the Fuhrer himself didn't.

6 posted on 04/15/2012 3:45:50 AM PDT by paudio (no tagline for now...)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Would have liked to see Lettow-Vorbeck at least considered.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_von_Lettow-Vorbeck


7 posted on 04/15/2012 3:46:39 AM PDT by JoeDetweiler
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To: JoeDetweiler

From Wikipedia:

In the year of von Lettow-Vorbeck’s death [1964], the West German Bundestag voted to deliver back pay to all surviving Askaris. A temporary cashier’s office was set up in Mwanza on Lake Victoria. Of the 350 veterans who gathered, only a handful could produce the certificates that von Lettow-Vorbeck had given them in 1918. Others presented pieces of their old uniforms as proof of service. The German banker who had brought the money came up with an idea. As each claimant stepped forward, he was handed a broom and ordered in German to perform the manual of arms. Not one man failed the test.


8 posted on 04/15/2012 3:53:44 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: JoeDetweiler

Yes! Lettow-Vorbeck was a genius. Take a look at his chauffeur: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=72870


9 posted on 04/15/2012 3:55:41 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I say to you, you has been nation of bloody banger, fish and chips flatulence, FUGB!


10 posted on 04/15/2012 3:58:33 AM PDT by lbryce (Obama The Worst President Ever Must Be Carterized)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Reading the comments posted on the Telegraph site is highly entertaining!


11 posted on 04/15/2012 4:00:19 AM PDT by Autonomous User ( As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly.)
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To: cripplecreek

That was when George was a colonial officer in charge of forces fighting FOR the Brits. Of course he did much better on his own later!


12 posted on 04/15/2012 4:50:03 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: windcliff

Welcome to the “Never Read the Column” tribe.


13 posted on 04/15/2012 4:54:03 AM PDT by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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To: JoeDetweiler

I consider the story of Von Lettow-Vorbeck one of the greatest little known tales of WWI.


14 posted on 04/15/2012 4:54:24 AM PDT by coolbreeze (giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teen-age boys.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I yield to none in my admiration for Washington as a man and a leader.

But he was not even vaguely close to Napoleon as a general or soldier.

The article was remarkably vague as to the criteria to be used in gauging the comparative “greatness” of these men.

True story: When Napoleon returned to France from Egypt and had launched his coup, a story got around that he would reinstate a Republic with self-rule by the people. (Not that the French had shown much capacity for it.)

His reply: “Who do they think I am, Washington?”


15 posted on 04/15/2012 4:55:36 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Autonomous User

Re the comments, I “loved” the guy who blamed Washington (and capitalism) for German militarism, the rise of Hitler, and all other problems European.


16 posted on 04/15/2012 5:04:58 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
No mention of this guy?


17 posted on 04/15/2012 5:09:00 AM PDT by Godebert (NO PERSON EXCEPT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
George Washington named Britain's greatest ever foe

Socialists divide, not unite.

Britain and the English are our best and dearest allies, period.

I will not swallow socialist swill and will proudly embrace our countries grand history and extend the hand of external friendship to our noble friends across the pond.

You socialists can all go burn, the sooner the better.

18 posted on 04/15/2012 5:10:49 AM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: Caipirabob
FReepers, don't let the socialists fool you into hostility against our British friends. They needs us now as much as we need them, and we really need friends on the outside now.

And that was "eternal friendship" not "external". I promise our British friends that eventually one day I will speak English...

19 posted on 04/15/2012 5:13:05 AM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: muawiyah

God had plans for him early on.

He was actually pretty mediocre as a British officer.


20 posted on 04/15/2012 5:30:53 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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