Boogieman: Ok, challenge accepted. To Muslims, the defining point of whether someone is a Muslim or not is whether they have taken “shahada”, or made a public proclamation of faith in Allah and his prophet, Muhammed. In March, 2007, in an interview with Nicholas Kristof of the New York Times, this took place: “Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent.” http://www.webcitation.org/mainframe.php Now, what are the opening lines of the call to prayer (the Adhan)? They are: “Allah is greater. I testify that there is no deity except Allah. I testify that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah.” The simple form of the “shahada” profession of faith is: “There is no god but Allah, and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.” So, the opening lines of the call to prayer ARE a form of the shahada, and by reciting them publicly, Obama fulfilled the basic requirement to become a Muslim, if he had not done so before that time.
Thank you, Boogieman! You have raised my spirits that we have more thinking (& discerning) FREEPERs in our midst than I give credit for!
This would be what I call "Grade A" type of evidence that Obama is indeed, a "closet" Muslim. Do we need more evidence than this? (I would say "yes")
But is this a solid foundation upon which to build such a case?
Yes. An excellent find...and one I wish that it had not taken a challenge by me to be reinvigorated as a reference on FR.
What do I mean by "reinvigorated?" Well, FREEPERS have gotten rather lazy since '09 ... dropping hints & intimating that Obama is a "closet" Muslim without iacking it up with documentation.
Well I went to Google and entered:
Shadada "Free Republic" Obama
as a search: Result: Shahada & Obama google search
I looked @ the first 100 Google hits, looking for FR threads...such threads built around this theme occurred about a dozen times or so within those 100 hits...The problem is that just about all of them were FR threads from 2008 and 2009.
So, I invite all for people to review the following FR threads ... prompted by Boogieman's lead here:
* The Muslim Side of Obama [Posted June 3, 2009 by Former Farmer]
* Muammar Qadafi Acknowledges that Barack Hussein Obama is Muslim,/a> [Posted Oct. 6, 2008 by Hecht]
* Muslim Obama: ‘WILL STAND WITH MUSLIMS SHOULD POLITICAL WINDS SHIFT IN UGLY DIRECTION’ [Posted March 29, 2008 by OnRightOnLeftCoast]
* Obama's pro-Muslim words [Posted Nov. 23, 2009 by freedomyes]
* Obama's Five Pillars of ............ [Posted April 14, 2009 by TenthAmendmentChampion]
* David Limbaugh: Is Obama a Christian? [Posted Aug. 27, 2010 by markomalley]
* Connect all the dots on Barack Hussein Obama [Posted Oct. 10, 2008 by savvyguy]
* Barack Obama's Muslim Childhood [Posted April 29, 2008 by PaleoConservative]
* NY Times Pulls Kristof's Piece with Obama's Muslim Call to Prayer [Posted Sept. 8, 2008 by markedmannerf]
* Mideast leader: Obama a Muslim who studied in Islamic schools [Posted Oct. 17, 2008 by Texascajun]
* My Muslim President Obama (02.25.09) [Posted Feb. 25, 2012 by libstripper]
I commend the FREEPERs who posted these articles.
I ask the "hermetically sealed" crowd who wants to "protect" us from investigating the religious realities of POTUS candidates why they didn't come onto these threads above & call the freepers on the carpet for not keeping religion out [...oh, don't bother to answer...we know if you were FREEPERs in '08 & '09, you're just plain religious hypocrites]
Finally...if Obama's Muslim ties have been worth investigating...and then to find out how that intersects with his running the White House...then the same applies to Romney & Mormonism...
Just as Boogieman's excellent post prompted me to investigate more Obama's Muslim ties...so should my posts cause others to investigate the implications of a Mormon "prophet" controlled POTUS in the White House...
Yes, you’re right, most of the investigating of Obama’s possible Muslim connections was done years ago, and I guess, after all this time, we all figure that anyone interested in learning about it already has. Plus, as I’m sure you are well aware, trying to tell people something they don’t want to hear can get pretty tiring. Maybe now that it’s election season again, it’s time to dust off this info and put it out there again.
Is there anything to this?