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Data Recording Black Boxes Likely in All Cars by 2015: Senate Passes Bill
autoguide.com ^ | April 20, 2012 | Luke Vandezande

Posted on 04/20/2012 10:59:29 AM PDT by unique1

Black boxes in cars? We’ve reported on it before, but a bill requiring such devices has recently passed the U.S. Senate and is expected to fare the same in the House.

If it goes all the way, cars built after 2015 will all have tattlers to give specific information on a car’s activity. If implemented, the devices are meant to be used by emergency responders during an accident, but the applications are far from limited to those incidents.

Some are worried that installing such devices offer unprecedented invasions of privacy, bordering on big brother level surveillance of everyday citizens. Going to the wrong place, or driving the wrong way could flag you for suspicious activity (in theory).

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; blackbox; cars; insurance; surviellence
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Constant creep of government intrusion.
1 posted on 04/20/2012 10:59:41 AM PDT by unique1
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The manufacturer of the "black box" paid enough politicians to force consumers to purchase their product, whether they want it or not.

Isn't that special?

2 posted on 04/20/2012 11:01:53 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (For every black person murdered by a white, thirty-nine white people are murdered by blacks.)
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To: unique1
GEORGE ORWELL_ping
3 posted on 04/20/2012 11:02:37 AM PDT by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: unique1

Incompetence on parade...

Is there anything that the government can’t soil more than it already has? No, and it’s doing it’s damnedest to cover everything as soon as it can.


4 posted on 04/20/2012 11:04:43 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Okay, now lets see if the RNC, Rove, and Card can get him elected without their core base. Game on!)
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To: unique1

Long live Big Brother!

(I love Big Brother)


5 posted on 04/20/2012 11:05:23 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: unique1

This will be a first step to states taxing us by each mile we drive.


6 posted on 04/20/2012 11:05:45 AM PDT by MeganC (No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
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To: unique1

Not Black Boxes. Democrat Boxes that will be used not simply to collect accident data, but also destinations and conversations of those who may oppose the Democratic Party.


7 posted on 04/20/2012 11:07:55 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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“This will be a first step to states taxing us by each mile we drive.”

U.N. Agenda 21, here we come.


8 posted on 04/20/2012 11:08:58 AM PDT by cld51860 (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: unique1

Gotta be a way to disable! Leave it up to American ingenuity.


9 posted on 04/20/2012 11:09:10 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: unique1

Can mandatory video cameras be far behind?


10 posted on 04/20/2012 11:10:41 AM PDT by Maceman (Liberals' only problem with American slavery is that the slaves were privately owned.)
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To: servantboy777

THey will just assume you are guilty if the box is tampered with.


11 posted on 04/20/2012 11:11:29 AM PDT by mamelukesabre (If I had a dog, it would look like the dog 0bama ate)
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To: MeganC

If you have a fairly new car, made in the last 10 years or so, it likely already has an event recorder, which is all they really need to get info on how you were driving.


12 posted on 04/20/2012 11:12:36 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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I have looking at various sites and have not been able to tell if these are passive or active devices. An on-star type device the tells you where you are or just a record of your speed and other driving that can not retrieved remotely. 85% of new cars have them now.


13 posted on 04/20/2012 11:13:33 AM PDT by ThomasThomas ("Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into!")
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There will need to be a website that describes where it is and how to remove or destroy it quickly. After all,, when you are in the a wreck,,, you own the car for hours, or even days after the accident.
Anything you elect to remove before it gets towed is fair game.


14 posted on 04/20/2012 11:13:51 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for officeoffI)
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We have a 2007 Volvo S80 which does not have a recorder and then our other car is a 1965 Ford Galaxie 500 XL and I’m pretty confident that there’s no recorder on that either.


15 posted on 04/20/2012 11:16:31 AM PDT by MeganC (No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
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To: ThomasThomas

This what the ones in GM cars now record. Other autos should be similar. I hope this is all the new will ones record.

EDRs record the following data:

Vehicle speed (five seconds before impact)
Engine speed (five seconds before impact)
Brake status (five seconds before impact)
Throttle position (five seconds before impact)
State of driver’s seat belt switch (On/Off)
Passenger’s airbag (On/Off)
IR Warning Lamp status (On/Off)
Time from vehicle impact to airbag deployment
Ignition cycle count at event time
Ignition cycle count at investigation
Maximum velocity for near-deployment event
Velocity vs. time for frontal airbag deployment event
Time from vehicle impact to time of maximum velocity
Time between near-deploy and deploy event (if within five seconds)


16 posted on 04/20/2012 11:19:26 AM PDT by ThomasThomas ("Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into!")
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To: BenLurkin

two plus two equals five


17 posted on 04/20/2012 11:19:45 AM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: unique1

Will the House really support this? I can’t imagine why they would.


18 posted on 04/20/2012 11:20:35 AM PDT by Pat4ever
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To: BenLurkin

Suck up


19 posted on 04/20/2012 11:22:22 AM PDT by BipolarBob ("Oh no, I'm not sick, well I'm not physically sick anyway. Mentally I'm sick beyond any doctor's abi)
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To: unique1
Constant creep of government intrusion.

Creep of intrusion? Creep?? This amounts to a surrender of our rights. We are no longer a free people, we only think we are free.

It is a very small step to see that data reporting will be REQUIRED by the government. The boxes will grow in capability and we will be forced to download this data to a government collection point.

People with driving infractions will be court-ordered to do this.

Insurance companies (Progressive snapshot-thing) will get laws passed that will require people report to their insurer in order to continue to receive coverage.

Instead of the gas tax we will have to download our driving data on a regular basis to show how many miles we drove and then be taxed based upon miles driven.

Anyone with a restraining order will be required to submit data.

No, we are NOT free people. We are a managed people.

20 posted on 04/20/2012 11:23:16 AM PDT by Obadiah
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