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Karl Rove's Early Electoral Map: OBAMA WINS
Business Insider ^ | 04/26/2012 | Brett LoGiurato

Posted on 04/26/2012 12:15:14 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Ever since Mitt Romney all but secured the Republican nomination, we were all waiting with bated breath.

Wait no more. Karl Rove has finally put out his inaugural 2012 electoral map. And who's winning?

Barack Obama. Here it is, in all its glory:

Karl Rove electoral map

Rove.com

You can see there how it breaks down: Right now, 284 votes are either solidly for Obama or "leaning Obama." Romney only has 172 solidly in his grasp or "leaning" toward him. The remaining 82 electoral votes are toss-ups.

What does this mean? Well, first, that Romney has some catching up to do and the gravity of the map he's up against. According to this map, even if Romney wins all the toss-up states of Iowa, Missouri, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina and Florida — which could be done — he still wouldn't beat Obama.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election2012; electoralmap; karlrove; obama
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To: fhayek
Rubio has managed to alienate every "TEAParty" movement in every state.

Selecting him to run with Romney is simply throwing more heavy towels in the toilet!~

81 posted on 04/26/2012 2:35:06 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“at this stage in the game, any map or chart that Karl produces is done for the purpose of raising money for the GOP.”

Repeat three times in a row, Freepers.
Buckeye nailed it.


82 posted on 04/26/2012 2:39:42 PM PDT by Mountain Mary (We not not inherit the earth from our ancestors. We borrow it from our children. Native American P.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Many of us who are supporters of the other candidates have argued for a long time that Etch-a-Sketch is about as electable as McCain, Dole, or Ford. Now the Romneybot Rove appears to be on board.


83 posted on 04/26/2012 2:40:07 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Another problem is the idiot GOP elitists only understand how to market to people exactly like themselves, i.e. socially liberal urban professionals with lots of college education. That myopic view is one reason why they wanted Romney. They think they can get the “independent” Democrat voters who think, act and live like them to switch sides.

In reality, the biggest disconnect out there is how so many minority voters are SOCIALLY CONSERVATIVE but vote Democrat, even though their party doesn’t speak to those views at all. A better strategy would be to push social conservatism to try to make Hispanics and others realize that the Republicans are the party of traditional morality and family values.

So this self-absorbed view on the part of the GOP establishment, assuming that the only important voters are ones who think exactly like them, is another reason they’ll probably lose.


84 posted on 04/26/2012 2:40:55 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: B Knotts

The Nevada thing has to do with Mormon demographics ~ they are union miners.


85 posted on 04/26/2012 2:42:26 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SeekAndFind

I wouldn’t worry too much about his ‘scary prediction’, it’s just his way of getting even with Conservative Republicans for turning their backs on him.

Nice try though.


86 posted on 04/26/2012 2:44:50 PM PDT by RetSignman
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To: Theoria
I always found it odd that the traditional conservative color of blue was placed on dems and the red of socialism placed on the gop.

That's because the Dumbocrats are always feeling depressed because Republicans are so much hotter than them.

87 posted on 04/26/2012 2:45:23 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: JediJones
In reality, the biggest disconnect out there is how so many minority voters are SOCIALLY CONSERVATIVE but vote Democrat, even though their party doesn’t speak to those views at all. A better strategy would be to push social conservatism to try to make Hispanics and others realize that the Republicans are the party of traditional morality and family values.

Socially conservative from the point of the country as a whole, maybe. But socially conservative in terms of the Republican Party, maybe not.

What I mean, is even when swing voters consider themselves socially conservative they won't always vote for the most socially conservative Republicans.

Those voters are socially conservative in comparison with liberal Democrats, but can be pretty moderate in comparison with the most conservative Republicans.

Also, they may respond well to pro-life and pro-family themes, but not to Republican economic policies.

We've seen this before with very devout minority voters who still vote heavily for Democrats. No reason to think that would change anytime soon.

88 posted on 04/26/2012 2:53:17 PM PDT by x
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To: SeekAndFind

And this is the guy Rove wanted to win the nomination????? He is only NOW realizing he backed a loser!


89 posted on 04/26/2012 2:54:47 PM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: SeekAndFind
Rove's an idiot and an attention junkie, and what better way for an idiot and attention junkie to garner attention than by saying something contrary and outrageous? Come on, people. We've seen this sort of crap before. I can't believe all the weak knees in this thread. You act like it's your first election and the first time you've heard B.S.


90 posted on 04/26/2012 2:57:27 PM PDT by Cinnamontea
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To: SeekAndFind
This is total Tokyo Rove “Hey look at me! please”
Obama is now 20 points down with Catholics and the fight has not yet really begun. NO DEMOCRAT HAS EVER WON WHILE LOSING THE CATHOLIC VOTE. TWENTY POINTS IS AN HOLE HE CAN'T GET OUT OF. Republicans can lose with Catholics and still win but not Democrats. Those who hate Romney can grab Tokyo's straw but it won't mean anything. Obama is either losing or behind where he has to be with EVERY group even Blacks and Jews. The generic shows the Rats down 10 which is HUGE and in Fla Ohio and Wisconsin the likely Republican Senate candidate is 10 points or more ahead of his Democrat opponent.
Rove is full of shiite!
91 posted on 04/26/2012 2:58:37 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Cinnamontea
P.S.: I'll take Rush's thoughts on what's going to happen in November over Rove's any day.


92 posted on 04/26/2012 2:58:45 PM PDT by Cinnamontea
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m happy our energies will be devoted to TEA Party candidates!

The liars are free to do battle between themselves.


93 posted on 04/26/2012 2:59:17 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: x
Also, they may respond well to pro-life and pro-family themes, but not to Republican economic policies.

That's true, but the Republicans are trying to appeal to the opposite, the socially liberal, well-off, white voters who might like conservative economic policy. Trouble is they're violating conservative orthodoxy by changing their views on social conservatism. It's a much more natural fit for the party to seek out minority voters, especially since we don't have to change our economic policy much if it all, but simply explain stuff like the "trickle-down" theory better. And, arguably, the Hispanic voters are the most important demographic we need to appeal to going forward.

To hang on to those socially liberal voters later, they need to abandon their social conservative principles pretty much completely and permanently. To get minority voters, as well as any remaining white Reagan Democrat types, we ought to be able to stick to all our principles, and simply work on the marketing and messaging of our economic views. Our economic philosophies result in a better country for all.

94 posted on 04/26/2012 3:01:50 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: muawiyah

Everyone thinks Rove is this mastermind but consider that he was going up against Al Gore and John Kerry and barely eeked out a win.

The guy is over rated.


95 posted on 04/26/2012 3:13:11 PM PDT by Peter from Rutland
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To: CommerceComet

I think theoretically good polls can be taken but the crap they give out free to the public are nothing but propaganda.


96 posted on 04/26/2012 3:20:38 PM PDT by DManA
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To: SnakeDoctor
Rove is trying to motivate Republicans to back Romney.

Bingo

97 posted on 04/26/2012 3:41:52 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: bkepley
So cheer up everyone...the RINO loses :)

ROTFLMAO!

98 posted on 04/26/2012 4:10:17 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (You mean we have a choice between M.R. and B.O.?)
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To: backwoods-engineer

“The question becomes: what do we do to stop Obama from implementing his agenda from 2013-2016?”

The answer likely depends on how many Republican Congressmen and Senators are either RINO’s or have a skeleton in their closets the administration can exploit. Remember the 900 FBI files during the Clinton years. No doubt Big Sis Napolitano has collected plenty of information over the past 3 1/2 years.


100 posted on 04/26/2012 7:05:53 PM PDT by Soul of the South (When times are tough the tough get going.)
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