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The War Against The Young
The American Interest ^ | May 5, 2012 | Walter Russell Mead

Posted on 05/06/2012 4:15:30 PM PDT by OddLane

An analysis of recent jobs figures at Investor.com reveals a disturbing development: the biggest beneficiaries from the economic recovery are Boomers, while everyone else is getting the shaft.

Since the Obama administration took office, there has been an epochal shift. Young workers have continued to lose jobs and incomes, while older workers have actually gained ground.

In fact, the Obama administration has seen a boom in the prospects of the 55+ crowd; their (I should say ‘our’) employment stands at a 42 year high. Net, there are 3.9 new jobs for people over 55 since the recession began in December 2007, but there are 8.1 million fewer jobs for the young folks since that time.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.the-american-interest.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: obama; recession

1 posted on 05/06/2012 4:15:35 PM PDT by OddLane
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To: OddLane

WHAT recovery!?


2 posted on 05/06/2012 4:21:40 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT)
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To: OddLane
In fact, the Obama administration has seen a boom in the prospects of the 55+ crowd; their (I should say ‘our’) employment stands at a 42 year high.

That's because the best way to get a job is to already have a job, and the boomers aren't giving up their jobs to retire because they know that the pension fund dominoes are going to fall any time now.

3 posted on 05/06/2012 4:23:47 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Do I really need a sarcasm tag? Seriously? You're that dense?)
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To: OddLane

Well duh. Who are you going to lay off? The seasoned vets or the temps. Who are you going to hire, people with a resume or people just entering the workforce? Yeah, I’m a boomer and doing well in the last two years. Working long hours and carrying twenty somethings along the way to do it. If I were unemployed right now, my age would be a minus in being hired to a good job. I suppose someone got paid government money to come to this concccclusionc


4 posted on 05/06/2012 4:25:51 PM PDT by Figment
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To: OddLane

Well duh. Who are you going to lay off? The seasoned vets or the temps. Who are you going to hire, people with a resume or people just entering the workforce? Yeah, I’m a boomer and doing well in the last two years. Working long hours and carrying twenty somethings along the way to do it. If I were unemployed right now, my age would be a minus in being hired to a good job. I suppose someone got paid government money to come to this conclusion


5 posted on 05/06/2012 4:26:18 PM PDT by Figment
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To: OddLane

For one thing, older workers know how to work. They do not spend the day on cellphones, call out sick once or twice a week, or steal from the register.


6 posted on 05/06/2012 4:32:49 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Real men are not threatened by strong women." -- Sarah Palin)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

That’s not quite all of it. The younger they are the more imbecilic on average they are as a result of the influence of government schools and the media. The average 20 year-old lacks the education and character to work at a car wash.

There are, of course, exceptions, and your mileage may vary.


7 posted on 05/06/2012 4:33:43 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: OddLane
The numbers are quite ugly...


8 posted on 05/06/2012 4:38:58 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: achilles2000

Plus, they have been conditioned to believe that delayed gratification (only buying things that you have the cash to pay for) is something that only a mentally ill person would do.


9 posted on 05/06/2012 4:45:24 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Do I really need a sarcasm tag? Seriously? You're that dense?)
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To: OddLane

Interesting… because Pew Research just published a report showing the ‘boomers’ where the hardest hit group in the long term unemployed category.

http://www.pewtrusts.org/uploadedFiles/wwwpewtrustsorg/Reports/Fiscal_Analysis/Addendum_Long-Term_Unemployment_May2012.pdf


10 posted on 05/06/2012 4:45:38 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: HangnJudge
Your second graph shows unemployment for blacks that are 16-19 years old.
Most teens that age are, or should be, still in high school.
That young, black, high school drop outs can't get a job doesn't surprise me at all.
11 posted on 05/06/2012 4:48:17 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: OddLane
What recovery? - Plus it's hard to find any beneficiaries from the turmoil of the last few years.
12 posted on 05/06/2012 4:50:24 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: SatinDoll

OK, is this trend by design or an unintended consequence?

Is this just another Zero ploy to stir up unrest in the young and to further class jealousy?

Nah, Zero can’t pull that one off, I figure it is just another case of Obummer doing his thing trying to stall the economy while not bringing down the whole enchilada until after the election.

I think all the guys who say Romney is the same as Obama are gonna get some learning in the school of hard knocks if Obama manages to get re-elected. They may be similar in many respects, but unlike Zero, I think Romney has some respect for this country.


13 posted on 05/06/2012 4:53:55 PM PDT by HangThemHigh (Entropy's not what it used to be.)
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To: OddLane
From PJ Media

Labor Force Disappears in Obama’s Depression

http://pjmedia.com/spengler/2012/05/06/labor-force-disappears-in-obamas-depression/

/snip - The big news in Friday’s employment report was not the miserable 115,000 jobs the economy added in April, but the disappearance of 340,000 workers from the labor force. We haven’t seen unemployment on this scale since the Great Depression. Indeed, since Obama took office, the labor force participation rate has fallen from 66% to 63% as almost 5 million American adults stopped looking for work. About a fifth of working-age Americans aren’t working — and a fifth of all personal income is transfer payments.

14 posted on 05/06/2012 4:53:55 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: Figment

“concccclusionc”

Great typo though!


15 posted on 05/06/2012 4:54:51 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Damned sticcccccking cccccccccccccc


16 posted on 05/06/2012 5:07:18 PM PDT by Figment
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To: HangThemHigh; Candor7
During the past couple weeks I've been reading some very upsetting information in published articles about DHS preparing for a civil war within the U.S.

I received an email that has ratcheted up my concern.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2880676/posts

Maybe, just maybe, Obama isn't concerned about reelection, as he never intends for the election to occur. Please do not hesitate to criticize here, but keep in mind the economic situation is very shakey right now, so an economic collapse used as an excuse to take over the nation in a dicitatorship isn't unreasonable.

17 posted on 05/06/2012 5:12:30 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT)
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To: HangnJudge

Funny. That first graph sure doesn’t look like employment for those 55 and older is at a 45 year high.


18 posted on 05/06/2012 5:15:56 PM PDT by MulberryDraw (He who is the Glory of Israel does not lie or change his mind;)
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To: SatinDoll

I certainly would not be surprised at anything Obama tried. The stopper for that scenario, IMO, is that he couldn’t count on US troops to fire on civilians.

Now if he has an SS hiding somewhere - eek.


19 posted on 05/06/2012 5:26:45 PM PDT by HangThemHigh (Entropy's not what it used to be.)
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To: MulberryDraw

There are all sorts of games that can be played with segmentation as well as statistics. Note the missing word: rate. The 55+ age cohort has been rapidly increasing in total numbers as well as perxentage of population, so the segment has as well. That means that total employment can be at a 45 year high while unemployment can be at another high. Rate of employment or unemployment is one thing, total employment or unemployment is another. The same statement could be made, that unemployment is at a 45 year high, too, and be just as accurate. It’s actually likely that unemployment is at an all time high for 55+, since the rate is up there as is the total number within the segment, when compared to any past period, even the Great Depression. There were far fewer 55+ individuals overall then.


20 posted on 05/06/2012 5:31:04 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Albion Wilde

I can’t agree more. By and large, older workers bring a work ethic with them. I expect that many younger workers think that they are entitled to a large pay check but, do they show up on time, and work their entire shift? In the industry I am in now, we have a huge problem with the work ethic of younger workers. Many of them don’t seem to be focused on work and can’t wait to leave, even if the work isn’t done. But that won’t get factored into any research studies on employment.


21 posted on 05/06/2012 5:46:26 PM PDT by Sir Clancelot
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To: achilles2000
The average 20 year-old lacks the education and character to work at a car wash.

And...younger workers have the emotions of 14-year-olds. Ever try to correct / coach a 22-year-old? They take it, like, totally personally and stuff. It's like, how dare he say to me, me of all people, how to do this monkey-simple job like he knows what he's doing and I don't! And, btw - where's my raise because I've been here for six weeks already and I won't be in tomorrow because, like, my grandfather died, again.
22 posted on 05/06/2012 5:55:17 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: Figment
In my field it's the opposite. I was laid off in 2008 and found a job in a few days.
Companies are looking for experience they can "plug in" to a position with little to no training. This reasoning is getting to critical mass because older employees don't stay as long (5-10 yrs) and the "20 somethings" as a rule just don't cut it even after 5-6 years on the job.
Maybe it's just because I've been doing the same thing forever but it seems they lack the basic math and logic skills and see no reason to apply themselves.
23 posted on 05/06/2012 6:04:28 PM PDT by TexasSecede79366 (Do politicians satisfy the literal definition of zombies?)
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To: Java4Jay
There are a few.
24 posted on 05/06/2012 7:19:16 PM PDT by OddLane (If Lionel Hutz and Guy Smiley had a lovechild together, his name would be "Mitt Romney." -KAJ)
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To: achilles2000

“The younger they are the more imbecilic on average they are as a result of the influence of government schools and the media. The average 20 year-old lacks the education and character to work at a car wash.”

That’s why they made a strong voter base for Maobama.


25 posted on 05/06/2012 7:21:33 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: Albion Wilde

“For one thing, older workers know how to work.”

This seemingly statement is nonetheless profound. The few 20-somethings I have dealt with have been 90% worthless. The incredible thing is that I have found them amazingly uncreative, narrow-minded when they think (rare), unfocused when they don’t, and lethargic. As far as their vaunted “computer literacy” is concerned - to put it in computing terms, their multitasking executive has so much overhead that there isn’t much left to do actual work with.

And THESE are the ones WITH jobs!


26 posted on 05/06/2012 8:39:00 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Take out three ‘’c’s’’, move an ‘i’’ and I think he’s invented a new word, ‘’conclucsionic’’. “conclucsionic’’, that is something already assumed and concluded to be true. “Obamas defeat in 2012 is conclucsionic by all assumptions’’.


27 posted on 05/06/2012 9:58:31 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: SatinDoll; Fred Nerks; Beckwith

Yur findings are ver accurate. Obama’s test bed was Kenya in 2007, when the “Senator from Illinois” illegally campaigned for his cousin ,in Kenya, Jaramongi Oginga Odinga,in contravention of the US . The platform of Odinga’s Orange party called for the Islamification of the Northeastern sectors of Kenya.

http://www.wnd.com/2011/12/377429/

When Odinga lost that election,Obama and his leftist adisors had the Orage party take t the streets in protest.The result was the deaths of thousands, not just one thousand as has been rummored, but around 7 thousand deaths all tolled.

In any state where Obama is NOT leading in the polls in the run up to the Nov. 6th election, we will see rioting and violence, stoked by the 13% unemployment in the US black community, created bitterness over Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman, the warnings to te Supreme Court not to strike the Obama Helathcare bill, the Occupy Moement, etc. If you look at any given area of the nation, you will see a corresonding radical group prepared to do violence , with the DHS positioned to act against “right wing extremists’ who fight back, which position was established in 2009 in working papers submitted and accepted by DHS and Janet Naplitano.Include in this base of the violence are Mexican drug cartels now set up and armed in the wilds of Arizona and New Mexico, some on federal lands where US citizens are prohibited from entering.Also included in the mix are radical Muslims who have been training over the years in places like Islamburg in upstate New York, and they are now distributed across the nation, and well armed.
Much of the organization bears the common trait of the Obama movement of organizing and communicating via the internet.

So you are correct becuse the Alinsky plan has been followed by the Obama movement, which has been working for 4 years organizing community radicals into a violence prone base.Part of that is Holders refusal to act against the New Black Party for poll offences in 2008.This article describes the Obama plan accurately:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html

If Obama wins the election it will be plan A and more of the horrible policies designed to socialize America completely.

Plan B is to wreck the election process and postpone it indefinitely via martial law, all the tools are in place for Obama to do so, from being able to shut down the internet,prohibit air travel via security measures and high fuel prices to prevent freedom of movement, and a vistual censorship ability by a co-operative/commpliant socialist MSM.

The only way that the Obama Movement can be beaten is to define them to the public head on, expose them and ridicule then so that Obama can be defeated.I am not so sure that Romney has the hutzpah do do that, but we will have to see.


28 posted on 05/07/2012 2:26:07 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info....http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: jmacusa

‘’conclucsionic’’

Poifect!


29 posted on 05/07/2012 5:12:27 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: The Antiyuppie

>I have found them amazingly uncreative, narrow-minded when they think (rare),

I would posit that to be a result of a) public-school (where group-based thinking must rule) and/or b) summary dismissal of ideas which are not generated via group-based thought. {That is to say, when you get ignored for voicing your thoughts there is a great temptation to stop voicing them.}

>unfocused when they don’t,

I would posit that this is a result of being “disconnected” from their “co-processors.”

>and lethargic.

Ok, that one I can empathize with. Previously the subject of delayed gratification came up, and well when that gratification is so delayed that you despair of achieving it, sometimes in conjunction with an almost ridicule for it, there is little left to hope for.

A good example might be a guy choosing to save his virginity for marriage, getting ribbed about it from fellow guys, and then realizing just how stacked against him the social* [and legal**] decks are (because he’s male), throw in the “modern woman***” as a kicker and why in hell would he want to tie himself to her?

* Society, I find, does its best to ridicule “manly” traits: honor, virtue, logical-thinking (oddly, but look at law and it’s current feeling-based bent)
** Legal, is all to ready to behave in unjust manner to men; take restraining orders (which don’t require a trial) and how that automatically puts a man on the “prohibited persons” list regarding firearms.
*** Chesterton said that feminism is mode of thought that hates everything feminine; given that society has swallowed feminism, is it any wonder that they hate everyone and everything? (Even at the subconscious levels.)


30 posted on 05/07/2012 8:26:05 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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