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Fire captain demoted after Facebook post about Trayvon Martin [Free Speech? Not in Obamerika!]
Local 10 ^ | 5/14/12 | Roger Lohse

Posted on 05/15/2012 3:21:31 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

A Miami-Dade County firefighter under investigation by his department for a controversial posting he reportedly made on his personal Facebook page about the Trayvon Martin case has been demoted, Local 10 has learned.

The controversial post read, "I and my co-workers could rewrite the book on whether our urban youths are victims of racist profiling or products of their failed, (expletive), ignorant, pathetic, welfare dependent excuses for parents."

The post caused a firestorm of controversy. Locally, black civic activists staged protests, demanding that Beckmann be fired. Some called him a racist and questioned his ability to serve the community.

(Excerpt) Read more at local10.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: facebook; fl; florida; race; thoughtcrime
Black thugs apparently now dictate what you can say and what you cannot.

I hope this guy raises holy hell and appeals. This disgusts me.

1 posted on 05/15/2012 3:21:40 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Facebook claims yet another career. what is this, the millionth victim? You would think people would learn.


2 posted on 05/15/2012 3:27:21 AM PDT by RC one (all y'all had to do was vote for Newt but noooooo, he wasn't good enough.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Gee!It seems to me that the guy got it nailed.I see nothing wrong in his statement and those people in that community know he’s right.

Why else charge the guy with Racism?What fools.

They refuse to see the forest for the trees and wonder why so many youths in their communities are getting killed at such a young age.


3 posted on 05/15/2012 3:32:19 AM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

despite the injustice here.....

...I suggest to everyone....

STAY OFF OF FACEBOOK....(or use a good alias).


4 posted on 05/15/2012 3:34:03 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: RC one

You’re right; it is bad enough that people in the private sector have to be mindful of everything they put out there (after all, it is very “public”). I can’t imagine what someone paid by the government is thinking; their jobs are even more “politically correct” (though it has spread into the private sector).

How hard is it to simply post these things on other forums under assumed names, or even an anonymous Facebook page (I really don’t know anything about whether or not an anonymous Facebook page can be set up).


5 posted on 05/15/2012 3:38:40 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: SoFloFreeper

You cannot disparage Holder’s people in this chocolate reich.

The negro nazi party must be ousted from power this year, somehow.


6 posted on 05/15/2012 4:11:29 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: puppypusher

Especially since his post said nothing about ANY race, but just referred to “our youths”.

His point is that the parents are bad examples who live off of excuses and mooching. So the response of the Black community is to make excuses and get rid of the person who points out there’s a problem. These people are like a satire of themselves.

Blacks who are not racist and who realize it’s a cop-out to cry “Racist!” whenever somebody says something that cuts too close to home need to speak out before the others totally screw up any mutual respect that might have existed between the races before America voted in a communist-Islamist usurper who just so happens to be half Black.

And every person needs to consider that this is what happens when the “top cop” says straight-out that Blacks cannot be guilty of racism or hate crimes. Once people know they can get away with it, they will do whatever they please. And what we’re seeing in stark detail is that what a lot of Black youths “please” is NOT a pretty picture.


7 posted on 05/15/2012 4:17:33 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Vaquero

Stay off Facebook.

That is good advice.

This man has been hung out to dry for stating the truth.He is on his own. His Union cannot defend him without being accused of racism themselves. His fellow firefighters are powerless lest they be called racists, and lose their promotions.

This man has experienced life and low lifes at their own level and had the temerity to say so. Be afraid. This is what happens if we dare to share our experiences in a public non-anonymous forum. Stay off that forum.

As the Police say. Anything you say can and will be used against you.


8 posted on 05/15/2012 4:24:35 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: butterdezillion

This is what it has come down to, some one speaking the truth and gets crucified in the process. If our society is to survive this crap will have to change, and change it will, as a society based on lies is not likely to survive.


9 posted on 05/15/2012 4:27:12 AM PDT by saintgermaine
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To: SoFloFreeper
Well, when Zimmerman is acquitted, and all these folks start torching their neighborhoods in protest, don't be in a real big hurry to drive over and put the fires out.

Or, when the next "dere be a dude in da street...he be shot" call comes in, drive to the scene in 1st gear.
10 posted on 05/15/2012 4:35:53 AM PDT by jrg
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To: RC one
Facebook claims yet another career. what is this, the millionth victim? You would think people would learn.

if you're vain enough to think you should publish your life to the entire planet, and stupid enough to do it, then caveat emptor.

technology has turned (selected) public opinion into a dictatorship. If you pull the serpent's tail, you might get bitten.

11 posted on 05/15/2012 4:37:54 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (they have no god but caesar)
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To: SoFloFreeper

While I agree with what has been said about Facebook, I still see that as a personal opinion expressed privately to friends. He didn’t make a speech, give an interview to a TV station, write an article for a newspaper, etc.

I don’t think he should be punished for expressing a personal opinion in a personal forum.

Besides he is just sooo correct in his analysis.


12 posted on 05/15/2012 4:50:23 AM PDT by Roses0508
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To: SoFloFreeper

He’ll take it to court and be handsomly rewarded as his free speech
Rights were abridged


13 posted on 05/15/2012 5:04:27 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: SoFloFreeper

He has to go to a Shrink and attend Diversity training! What is this, the Soviet States of America? Chinese brainwashing?


14 posted on 05/15/2012 5:14:45 AM PDT by ABN 505
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To: SoFloFreeper

Unfortunately, we all must recognize the world we live in. Free speech has only to do with being free to descent from government without the fear of retaliation (hanging only by a thread). It has noting to do with civic retaliation. In business when interacting with the public, you never discuss religion or politics (and race) and you never place bumper stickers on your work truck, as a general rule. Like on this website, I could say something that the mod finds inflammatory regardless of the facts, and blocks my access without warning. If your willing to take the hit, speak your mind as it strikes you.


15 posted on 05/15/2012 5:15:07 AM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: Joe Boucher

I think he would win in a court of law. If he worked for a private company, they could fire him or demote, but he works for the government, and the government can’t punish you (fire or demote you) for your speech- at least that said off the job.


16 posted on 05/15/2012 5:16:28 AM PDT by Krankor
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To: JulieRNR21; kinganamort; katherineisgreat; floriduh voter; summer; Goldwater Girl; windchime; ...
I am immediately reminded of George Orwell's statement: "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."

Even if one has no revolutionary inclinations, apparently.

Florida Freeper


17 posted on 05/15/2012 5:17:25 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: SoFloFreeper

To only way for this insanity to stop is for the non-parasitic citizens of his community to get off their butts and demand his right to free speech, on his own time, be protected.

As long as allow the loudmouth lazy sloths of society to voice their opinions unopposed, this situation will get worse. We have all seen the type on the nightly news with their big mouthed pig face playing their race card.


18 posted on 05/15/2012 5:19:34 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: the invisib1e hand; RC one

Yeah because hiding behind a moniker on FR is the way to freely live your life and share your opinions.

There’s nothing wrong with Facebook. It’s how it is misused that is the problem.

For example, my account is very locked down and I’m not “friends” with anyone I work with period. No exceptions.

Vanity? My 18 month old son caught and released a frog last night. I posted a video of it. I guess I’m vain...


19 posted on 05/15/2012 5:35:32 AM PDT by TSgt (The only reason I have one in the chamber at all times, is because it is impossible to have two in.)
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To: Joe Boucher

I hope he sues....


20 posted on 05/15/2012 5:36:24 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: dps.inspect

The very argument you make shows why this case is ripe for reversal. The government in this case IS limiting his 1st amendment rights.


21 posted on 05/15/2012 5:39:38 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: puppypusher

For those in the miniority community who were offended by his comments, my grandmother had a comment which is appropriate for their feelings: If the shoe fits, ware it.


22 posted on 05/15/2012 5:45:26 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Vaquero
STAY OFF OF FACEBOOK....(or use a good alias).

Even a good alias and max privacy settings won't help if one of your Facebook "friends" takes offense at something you say and decides to rat you out to your employer or the media.

Since I like venting opinions that some people in the outside world would find controversial, not even my wife knows what handle I use on FR, and I give nobody on FR my real identity.

23 posted on 05/15/2012 5:54:45 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: Joe Boucher

“He’ll take it to court and be handsomly rewarded as his free speech”

That might depend on what the policies stated. I couldn’t even work on a campaign at HCA unless I had permission to do so. I can only imagine what the policies are at a government run entity.


24 posted on 05/15/2012 5:58:31 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: SoFloFreeper

How ya like the land of the free?


25 posted on 05/15/2012 6:12:05 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I believe the fireman in question is black. It took a lot of courage to say what he said...


26 posted on 05/15/2012 6:46:38 AM PDT by GOPJ ( "A Dog In Every Pot" - freeper ETL)
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To: PapaBear3625
...and I give nobody on FR my real identity.

heck, neither would I...and I would not have facebook...ever.

27 posted on 05/15/2012 8:06:02 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
It won't do him any good to appeal. In this age of political correctness, "free speech" depends on who one is and who is it directed at. Obviously, this guy is in the wrong group all the way around.

My sister in law ser up a Facebook account for me. But everytime I think about posting something on FaceBook, I recall something one of my school teachers told the class,[to wit] "Fool's names and fools faces are always seen in public places."

28 posted on 05/15/2012 8:52:28 AM PDT by sport
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To: freeangel

Long as you support lib causes it b ok


29 posted on 05/15/2012 9:19:57 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: SoFloFreeper

You know, your right... the thought never crossed my mind that what we have here is a government employed person... regardless of whether at the Fed or local level, fire fighters are public employees, plus what he said was not intended for public consumption.


30 posted on 05/15/2012 12:51:23 PM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: TSgt
Yeah because hiding behind a moniker on FR is the way to freely live your life and share your opinions.

I agree with that 100%

There’s nothing wrong with Facebook.

I disagree with that

31 posted on 05/15/2012 8:09:17 PM PDT by RC one (all y'all had to do was vote for Newt but noooooo, he wasn't good enough.)
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To: Joe Brower

Hey, the police advise people to sue people who didn’t like what someone says on facebook that the police haven’t even viewed. The police are giving legal advice re: civil litigation now. Florida’s infested with Obama speech squelch squads. Police encourage people to sue other people who post at fb. for reals


32 posted on 05/16/2012 7:32:45 PM PDT by floriduh voter (I have no comment.)
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