Skip to comments.Fire captain demoted after Facebook post about Trayvon Martin [Free Speech? Not in Obamerika!]
Posted on 05/15/2012 3:21:31 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
A Miami-Dade County firefighter under investigation by his department for a controversial posting he reportedly made on his personal Facebook page about the Trayvon Martin case has been demoted, Local 10 has learned.
The controversial post read, "I and my co-workers could rewrite the book on whether our urban youths are victims of racist profiling or products of their failed, (expletive), ignorant, pathetic, welfare dependent excuses for parents."
The post caused a firestorm of controversy. Locally, black civic activists staged protests, demanding that Beckmann be fired. Some called him a racist and questioned his ability to serve the community.
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I hope this guy raises holy hell and appeals. This disgusts me.
Facebook claims yet another career. what is this, the millionth victim? You would think people would learn.
Gee!It seems to me that the guy got it nailed.I see nothing wrong in his statement and those people in that community know he’s right.
Why else charge the guy with Racism?What fools.
They refuse to see the forest for the trees and wonder why so many youths in their communities are getting killed at such a young age.
despite the injustice here.....
...I suggest to everyone....
STAY OFF OF FACEBOOK....(or use a good alias).
You’re right; it is bad enough that people in the private sector have to be mindful of everything they put out there (after all, it is very “public”). I can’t imagine what someone paid by the government is thinking; their jobs are even more “politically correct” (though it has spread into the private sector).
How hard is it to simply post these things on other forums under assumed names, or even an anonymous Facebook page (I really don’t know anything about whether or not an anonymous Facebook page can be set up).
You cannot disparage Holder’s people in this chocolate reich.
The negro nazi party must be ousted from power this year, somehow.
Especially since his post said nothing about ANY race, but just referred to “our youths”.
His point is that the parents are bad examples who live off of excuses and mooching. So the response of the Black community is to make excuses and get rid of the person who points out there’s a problem. These people are like a satire of themselves.
Blacks who are not racist and who realize it’s a cop-out to cry “Racist!” whenever somebody says something that cuts too close to home need to speak out before the others totally screw up any mutual respect that might have existed between the races before America voted in a communist-Islamist usurper who just so happens to be half Black.
And every person needs to consider that this is what happens when the “top cop” says straight-out that Blacks cannot be guilty of racism or hate crimes. Once people know they can get away with it, they will do whatever they please. And what we’re seeing in stark detail is that what a lot of Black youths “please” is NOT a pretty picture.
Stay off Facebook.
That is good advice.
This man has been hung out to dry for stating the truth.He is on his own. His Union cannot defend him without being accused of racism themselves. His fellow firefighters are powerless lest they be called racists, and lose their promotions.
This man has experienced life and low lifes at their own level and had the temerity to say so. Be afraid. This is what happens if we dare to share our experiences in a public non-anonymous forum. Stay off that forum.
As the Police say. Anything you say can and will be used against you.
This is what it has come down to, some one speaking the truth and gets crucified in the process. If our society is to survive this crap will have to change, and change it will, as a society based on lies is not likely to survive.
if you're vain enough to think you should publish your life to the entire planet, and stupid enough to do it, then caveat emptor.
technology has turned (selected) public opinion into a dictatorship. If you pull the serpent's tail, you might get bitten.
While I agree with what has been said about Facebook, I still see that as a personal opinion expressed privately to friends. He didn’t make a speech, give an interview to a TV station, write an article for a newspaper, etc.
I don’t think he should be punished for expressing a personal opinion in a personal forum.
Besides he is just sooo correct in his analysis.
He’ll take it to court and be handsomly rewarded as his free speech
Rights were abridged
He has to go to a Shrink and attend Diversity training! What is this, the Soviet States of America? Chinese brainwashing?
Unfortunately, we all must recognize the world we live in. Free speech has only to do with being free to descent from government without the fear of retaliation (hanging only by a thread). It has noting to do with civic retaliation. In business when interacting with the public, you never discuss religion or politics (and race) and you never place bumper stickers on your work truck, as a general rule. Like on this website, I could say something that the mod finds inflammatory regardless of the facts, and blocks my access without warning. If your willing to take the hit, speak your mind as it strikes you.
I think he would win in a court of law. If he worked for a private company, they could fire him or demote, but he works for the government, and the government can’t punish you (fire or demote you) for your speech- at least that said off the job.
Even if one has no revolutionary inclinations, apparently.
To only way for this insanity to stop is for the non-parasitic citizens of his community to get off their butts and demand his right to free speech, on his own time, be protected.
As long as allow the loudmouth lazy sloths of society to voice their opinions unopposed, this situation will get worse. We have all seen the type on the nightly news with their big mouthed pig face playing their race card.
Yeah because hiding behind a moniker on FR is the way to freely live your life and share your opinions.
There’s nothing wrong with Facebook. It’s how it is misused that is the problem.
For example, my account is very locked down and I’m not “friends” with anyone I work with period. No exceptions.
Vanity? My 18 month old son caught and released a frog last night. I posted a video of it. I guess I’m vain...
I hope he sues....
The very argument you make shows why this case is ripe for reversal. The government in this case IS limiting his 1st amendment rights.
For those in the miniority community who were offended by his comments, my grandmother had a comment which is appropriate for their feelings: If the shoe fits, ware it.
Even a good alias and max privacy settings won't help if one of your Facebook "friends" takes offense at something you say and decides to rat you out to your employer or the media.
Since I like venting opinions that some people in the outside world would find controversial, not even my wife knows what handle I use on FR, and I give nobody on FR my real identity.
“Hell take it to court and be handsomly rewarded as his free speech”
That might depend on what the policies stated. I couldn’t even work on a campaign at HCA unless I had permission to do so. I can only imagine what the policies are at a government run entity.
How ya like the land of the free?
I believe the fireman in question is black. It took a lot of courage to say what he said...
heck, neither would I...and I would not have facebook...ever.
My sister in law ser up a Facebook account for me. But everytime I think about posting something on FaceBook, I recall something one of my school teachers told the class,[to wit] "Fool's names and fools faces are always seen in public places."
Long as you support lib causes it b ok
You know, your right... the thought never crossed my mind that what we have here is a government employed person... regardless of whether at the Fed or local level, fire fighters are public employees, plus what he said was not intended for public consumption.
I agree with that 100%
Theres nothing wrong with Facebook.
I disagree with that
Hey, the police advise people to sue people who didn’t like what someone says on facebook that the police haven’t even viewed. The police are giving legal advice re: civil litigation now. Florida’s infested with Obama speech squelch squads. Police encourage people to sue other people who post at fb. for reals