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SpaceX Falcon 9 Launch Live Thread (05/22/2012) 03:44 EDT)
05/21/12 | Kevin Davis

Posted on 05/21/2012 4:47:45 PM PDT by KevinDavis

Good luck again.. I'm sure they will make it..



TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iss; nasa; newtwasright; space; spacex
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To: KevinDavis
NASA exists to be the BMV of any future form of space travel. Remember to get a number and move up when hearing someone yell "Next", and be damn certain your documentation is in order. Don't forget to donate your organs and $1 to fish and wildlife.
41 posted on 05/21/2012 7:30:11 PM PDT by Musketeer
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42 posted on 05/21/2012 7:33:09 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: PreciousLiberty
The least amount of cost doesn't translate in the safest design.

I used to provide beacon readout for the eastern range at KSC and Canaveral. Sitting in on Space-X’s first launch gave me a detailed education on the problems with 9 motors.

There are certain things government does very well in, such as a standing military.....etc., also space flight.

If cost is the holy grail for you, be prepared for a body count that will prove my point.

I have every hope of success....just not the direction that Space-X has taken it.

Once again, Atlas is probably going to prove the best platform.

43 posted on 05/21/2012 7:35:42 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: PreciousLiberty
The least amount of cost doesn't translate in the safest design.

I used to provide beacon readout for the eastern range at KSC and Canaveral. Sitting in on Space-X’s first launch gave me a detailed education on the problems with 9 motors.

There are certain things government does very well in, such as a standing military.....etc., also space flight.

If cost is the holy grail for you, be prepared for a body count that will prove my point.

I have every hope of success....just not the direction that Space-X has taken it.

Once again, Atlas is probably going to prove the best platform.

44 posted on 05/21/2012 7:36:05 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: KevinDavis

Fingers crossed for a flawless launch and insertion.


45 posted on 05/21/2012 7:36:36 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Yes they have....not to mention, the rocket clusters are spread out much more than Space-X.

Space-X has there rockets clustered too close to the cum-line of the rocket.

2 or 3 rockets shutdown during the boost phase and bad things happen quicker.

Big girl panties might be useful for making it back to earth if all fails.


46 posted on 05/21/2012 7:43:20 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: JRandomFreeper

Indeed. The Saturn 1B had eight engines in the first stage.


47 posted on 05/21/2012 7:45:25 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: dragnet2

All of their launches had delays....for the same thing...engine sequence.

2 launches is a vision for you?

I was there for the first launch at Canaveral...supporting it for the Eastern Range.

I need no education on when and where.

I’m giving you insight on what and why.


48 posted on 05/21/2012 7:47:01 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: PreciousLiberty

BTW.....”Kevin”????????????


49 posted on 05/21/2012 7:48:46 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: Puckster
Question to Puckster and everyone else who is knowledgeable about space stuff:

What about using some form of a mag-lev sled to get the space craft moving quickly in a horizontal direction, then slowly ramp it upward and ingite the engines after it's already got a lot of momentum? Wouldn't that be a lot more efficient than using brute force thrust to shove the craft skyward from a dead stop?

I'm obviously no expert, but it seems like the current way is about the least efficient way to launch any space craft. I welcome all responses, even if I'm totally wrong and get schooled for it.

50 posted on 05/21/2012 8:04:00 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad ((((( ABO - 2012 )))))
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To: Puckster
All of their launches had delays

Launch delays are common regardless of who is behind it. It's why this is called a test.

51 posted on 05/21/2012 8:13:00 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Two Kids' Dad

It’s a good idea for smaller rockets. Would be an enormous project to scale it up for heavy-lifters.

Launching small rockets to orbit from a large jet is also a good idea.

If you built a magnetic launcher on the moon you could fling payload packages back to earth...if anything of value was found there.

(The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress)


52 posted on 05/21/2012 8:26:11 PM PDT by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: Puckster
Um.... They have had more than 2 launches. They have put stuff in orbit. They have returned stuff from orbit. And returning stuff from orbit is something only governments have done until they did it.

Maybe you should actually purchase a clue.

/johnny

53 posted on 05/21/2012 8:39:22 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

We’re talking about the Falcon 9 here.


54 posted on 05/21/2012 8:52:21 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: dragnet2

“Launch delays are common regardless of who is behind it. It’s why this is called a test.”

Test of the Dragon, not of the Falcon 9.

Launch delays are predominately weather related.

Not with Space-X.

They will continue to be predominately motor related. They say software issues...yes, software relating to the motors.


55 posted on 05/21/2012 8:58:14 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: Two Kids' Dad

http://articles.cnn.com/2002-01-03/tech/maglev.launches_1_rocket-nasa-maglev-research?_s=PM:TECH


56 posted on 05/21/2012 9:00:26 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: Bobalu

Supposedly there is a lot of Helium 3 on the Moon...energy.


57 posted on 05/21/2012 9:04:31 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: Puckster

Falcon 9 has made two launches before, both successful.

This seems to disturb you.

Deal with it.


58 posted on 05/21/2012 9:20:46 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
It seems your the one perturbed by anything but “positive” talk.

Your elan is clouding your desire to know.

The Ares 1-X was said to be a successful launch also....however, Griffith legacy had a fundamental problem they didn't really want to talk about, somewhat like you, in that the Ares developed a buckle.

Successful launch you say because it accomplished what it set out to do.

There was a 3 hertz vibration systemic to the rocket being utilized apart from the original design being strapped to the sides of the ET.

That 3 hertz was a jackhammer vibration up the length to the payload. The fix was to add approximately 1200lbs of tare weight to dampen the effect, which wasn't present on the launch.

As I intimated, 1 or 2 launches don't make for success....we will see if they can hammer out the engineering problems on their sequencing...which I doubt due to too many variables.

59 posted on 05/21/2012 9:37:10 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: Puckster
As I intimated, 1 or 2 launches don't make for success..

It's why you were told thread, it's a test.

Driving rockets into orbit is dangerous and the complexities can routinely cause delays. From weather, to woodpeckers to mechanical issues..Launch delays will always occur.

60 posted on 05/21/2012 9:58:24 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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