Posted on 06/10/2012 8:50:24 AM PDT by SmithL
Labor unions and business interests have been quietly raising millions of dollars and testing campaign messages for months, girding for a brawl over a November ballot measure that could fundamentally shift political power in Sacramento.
Now, on the heels of an election that saw unions handed a major defeat last week in Wisconsin, the opposing camps in California soon will launch a campaign battle likely to consume $50 million or more in political spending.
"Unions have just two channels of influence," said Daniel J.B. Mitchell of the Anderson Graduate School of Management at UCLA, "collective bargaining and the political side, so this initiative is extremely important to them."
The measure, which has not yet received a proposition number, would ban both unions and corporations from contributing directly to candidates, although both sides could still freely spend money on their own independent efforts.
Another provision forbids both sides from using money gathered from payroll deductions for political purposes. It promises to gut the power of labor unions because they raise nearly all of their money for political and other purposes via payroll-deducted dues from their members' paychecks.
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There have been many "recall efforts," of which only three made it to an election.
Nothing good ever happens in California and survives more than a few months. Some jackass will find a judge to overturn it, regardless. The day something good happens and sticks I’ll be surprised.
They need to have an earthquake and get flipped out into the ocean. It’s the only good thing I can think of that a court can’t reverse.
Exactly. Build a head of steam in the midwest before taking the show into the heart of darkness.
WE don't decide the location, the local voters do!
Walker is the only one of the three to survive. The other two lost their recall. One was Gray Davis, Jerri Brown’s chief of staff during his first round as governor.
Then let every legal entity that has a stake in government support their choice.
This proposition will kneecap the conservative movement. It also will undoubtedly have fine print that allows loopholes for the unions.
Don't forget that corporations only participate financially while unions participate financially and with boots on the ground type things like staffing phone banks, transportation.
We have a winner!
As long as there is a liberal judge to be found, propositions in CA (or elsewhere, for that matter) are much ado about nothing.
We’ve even got pro union allies in Michigan. They’re union but they’re pro union choice. These guys really do walk the walk and they’re growing.
http://www.unionconservatives.com/
I’m sure we’ll see how fast the media jumps on the narrative that California be next; unless they realize they don’t want the California electorate to think about the forced union dues. ??
Possibly many efforts are started but don’t gain sufficient support to make it to the ballot.
An earthquake to flip us out in the ocean? Really? If that happened
then where would your state and every other state send all your
rejects? Obviously the state that twice elected Ronald Reagan as
governor wasn’t always the way it is now. Hell, you all ought to
thank us native Calis for taking the cretins off your hands instead
of insulting us so much of the time.
"The public has got to read between the lines on this thing," said Ken Murch, chief negotiator and lobbyist for the California Association of Psychiatric Technicians. "The deception is that this levels the political playing field. It doesn't."
That's a ridiculous comparison, I'm sure the businesses lobbied on all sorts of issues while the unions lobbied only on how to get paid more.
Inching back toward reality. @.5:1 is certainly a far cry from what the lying Martin O'Malley cited ("10:1") or the "Center for Public Integrity" at "nearly 8:1." But of course, the lies are so widely disseminated now, there's no chance for the truth to ever catch up.
sorry, sorry, I capped when I shouldn’t have : 2.5 :1
Ah yes, let’s just write off those 50 plus electoral votes. Lets not contest the state or do anything that might cause folks to be able to honestly evaluate Conservatism vs Liberalism.
That has worked so well for us. We start off every presidential election year 50 plus electoral votes in the hole. What a great master plan. /s
The problem with avoiding election year issues and other major issues, in California, is that the time when the issues should be most crystal clear and covered at an elevated level, the Republican party takes a pass on the state.
How do we as an interest group expect to get the word out, when we take a pass when we have the megaphone?
Californians just voted down same sex marriage, and yet folks are convinced no Conservative issues can pass in the state. That’s a major fallacy, that some on our side constantly use to defeat our cause.
California is in play. Deal with it...
Whatever the voters say about the need for unions, GOVERNMENT, a Democrat Liberal Government, will do everything in its power to ignore, lessen, subvert or outright ignore. There is no closure on voter initiatives when the state if filled with millions of illegals, featherbedding politicians and corrupt liberal judges, period. T-O-A-S-T....
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