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EPA POWER GRAB TO REGULATE DITCHES, GULLIES ON PRIVATE PROPERTY
human events ^ | june 11, 2012 | Audrey Hudson

Posted on 06/11/2012 11:56:23 AM PDT by lowbridge

Lawmakers are working to block an unprecedented power grab by the Environmental Protection Agency to use the Clean Water Act (CWA) and control land alongside ditches, gullies and other ephemeral spots by claiming the sources are part of navigable waterways.

These temporary water sources are often created by rain or snowmelt, and would make it harder for private property owners to build in their own backyards, grow crops, raise livestock and conduct other activities on their own land, lawmakers say.

“Never in the history of the CWA has federal regulation defined ditches and other upland features as ‘waters of the United States,’” said Rep. John Mica (R-Fla.), chairman of the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, Rep. Nick Rahall (D-W.Va.), the ranking committee member, and Rep. Bob Gibbs (R-Ohio), chairman of the Subcommittee on Water Resources and Environment.

“This is without a doubt an expansion of federal jurisdiction,” the lawmakers said in a May 31 letter to House colleagues.

(Excerpt) Read more at humanevents.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agenda21; epa; obama
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To: Terry Mross

Our mistake is buying into anything the U. N. globalists want us to.


61 posted on 06/12/2012 10:41:57 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: Paladin2

Actually, that did happen in N Calif.

I lived there from 1993 to late 2004.

There were local Greenies proposals that ALL the rainfall & snowmelt was creating ‘watercourses’ which were then defined as ‘navigable waters’ & under the control of the county, the state & the Feds, etc.

I raised hell at the Supervisors meetings about this. Told them that I owned the land, paid my taxes on it & I didn’t control the RAIN——and NEITHER DID THEY!!!

This definition of ‘watercourses’ wouldn’t let a child’s bathtub boat sail in it.

They were dead serious. They thought they could invade my property & tell me where the rain could fall off the roof and where it could run downhill!!!

I told them they had better bring plenty of help if they were going to try and invade my property!


62 posted on 06/12/2012 4:45:26 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: j_hig
It actually is an "easement" which means it is subject to the whims of local gubmint. I live on a state highway, and when I wanted to make my driveway concrete, an Ohio DOT nerd showed up and tried to tell us we had to leave the last twenty feet between driveway and street as dirt. He had no coherent explanation. I suspect he may have been drinking by 11 AM.

He seemed to think water would run down my driveway then uphill, into the middle of the road and freeze, thus creating an ice spot in the highway. My driveway had been blacktop, and in 30-odd winters of course no such thing had ever happened. Water does not run uphill, even in NE Ohio.

My contractor was quite agitated but his business liocense was at stake so he had no choice but to yield. I was at work at the time but fortunately, Mrs Buzzard, who chews nails for breakfast, made the DOT squish relent and let the concrete be laid to within about ten feet of the road. I'll finish the rest myself, a bag or two at a time.

63 posted on 06/12/2012 4:46:28 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: MaxMax

Dismantle the EPA completely.

Even 3 of those Greenies can cause lots of trouble!!!


64 posted on 06/12/2012 4:47:47 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters

Ping!


65 posted on 06/12/2012 4:50:44 PM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: Carry_Okie
Hi Carry. I bought your book and read it years ago and am still impressed with it. You are one of the true straight arrows around here.
66 posted on 06/12/2012 4:53:08 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: lowbridge

Rick Perry was right. Defund them all. Shut them all down. Get them out of our lives.


67 posted on 06/12/2012 4:57:20 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: hinckley buzzard
Hi Carry. I bought your book and read it years ago and am still impressed with it.

Thank you. Natural Process was perhaps too deep and too far ahead of its time to be popular, but it surely planted some interesting seeds.

You are one of the true straight arrows around here.

It can be a pain to be "a straight arrow around here," as even FReepers have their positions organized around the false dichotomies the mediots present us. The usual "Republican" idea that environmental regulation actually protects us and that all we need to do is perform it better is a total crock. Large scale preservation may be the most destructive thing we have ever done to the land. That said...

Have you seen the more recent book CD on the Sabbath for the land? It starts slowly, but it's truly a mind blowing concept, one that is still growing as I retranslate Genesis 1-8 in its proper nomadic context. I'm not selling it any more as I plan to put the whole thing (all 1000pp of photographs) online this year, but if you want an ftp link please let me know.

68 posted on 06/12/2012 5:41:03 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party Switcheroo: Economic crisis! Zero's eligibility Trumped!! Hillary 2012!!!)
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To: ridesthemiles
Where do these people find the time to run everyone else's life in addition to their own?

I barely have time to do half of what I should do to run my own life.

69 posted on 06/12/2012 5:55:24 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Carry_Okie
Shaw was up here on a tour of the Pacific Northwest last spring. We had breakfast at a friend's farm and he was well versed in the steps government and their partners in the NGOs are taking to gain control over us all.

He was clear about having been a leftie before going to war over his property. That's probably why he is impaired in some ways when it comes to recognizing solutions.

70 posted on 06/12/2012 9:23:48 PM PDT by Baynative (REMEMBER: Without America there is no free world!)
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To: Baynative
That's probably why he is impaired in some ways when it comes to recognizing solutions.

It's a failing of Randians in general, and lawyers in particular. He's both.

71 posted on 06/12/2012 9:29:04 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party Switcheroo: Economic crisis! Zero's eligibility Trumped!! Hillary 2012!!!)
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To: lowbridge; All

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72 posted on 06/22/2012 6:01:22 PM PDT by TEXOKIE
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To: trubolotta

First of all the system of unincorporated areas having no local oversight is a major part of the problem. Back East, we had townships in areas of the counties that were outside of urban towns or cities. The townships are not only self-governing, they are self funding. The township residents determine what level of services they will have and how they will pay for them. The townships must still meet certain levels of health and safety.

As it stands, the unincorporated areas in WA are governed by centralized regulators and county councils that live mostly in the urban areas, as if the rural areas were nothing but colonies or feudal fiefs of the urban regulatory boards. This country ended colonial rule in 1776 and these lefties want to re-instate it.


73 posted on 06/23/2012 2:25:34 PM PDT by Eva
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