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Is this the end of Eric Holder’s games?
NY Post ^ | 6-20-2012 | Michael A. Walsh

Posted on 06/20/2012 5:15:16 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot

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To: stephenjohnbanker; NFHale; henkster; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; JAKraig
RE ::”Holder committed a heinous criminal act.....get him!!

This one is easy,

The House will have their vote, Holder (and obama) will ignore it, the MSM will either ignore it or cite it as more political noise by Republicans. Republicans will use it in fund-raising letters. Democrats will use it in fund-raising letters. Holder will still be attorney general in December. If Romney wins his AG will do nothing about it.

Republicans have no follow-up plan.

51 posted on 06/20/2012 9:28:34 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: sickoflibs

For my edification - what IS the next step after a contempt vote?

Is there no law enforcement avenue available other than impeachment?


52 posted on 06/20/2012 9:33:38 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale; stephenjohnbanker; nhale; henkster; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; JAKraig
RE :”For my edification - what IS the next step after a contempt vote?
Is there no law enforcement avenue available other than impeachment?

Good question.

In 2007 or 2008 the Pelosi/Conyers judiciary held similar votes on contempt of GWB WH officials for refusing to testify to them under oath.
The next step is to refer the case to AG Holder for prosecution, in this case they will send him his own House indictment. Then he ignores it. Then Republicans do nothing,

This Boehner House session scores huge points in ‘talk’, but low grades in ‘results’.

Lets see what opinion polls do two weeks after the vote. We got an election coming up and Romney has not moved up in the polls after two bad weeks for Obama and then his late week amnesty announcement.

53 posted on 06/20/2012 9:44:45 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: sickoflibs

I would like to see Romney grab a microphone and a camera and make a very public statement -

“If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about. What is this administration hiding, and why?”

Throw the onus on them to “come clean”. Over and over and over again.


54 posted on 06/20/2012 9:48:23 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale; stephenjohnbanker; nhale; henkster; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; JAKraig
Clarification :technically they were Bush ‘advisors’ not ‘officials’ I believe. The AG still had to testify under oath, but my point is the AG will just ignore the referral/indictment.
55 posted on 06/20/2012 9:50:01 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: NFHale; All

We all know the Left’s take on guns.

Here you have a Leftist president covering for a guy who was involved in (evil) gun running.

Yep, that’s right, he was (EVIL) gun running. As THE PRESS would describe them if some guy on the street had committed a crime with them, “FULLY AUTOMATIC LARGE MAGAZINE MILITARY MACHINE GUNS!”

Here’s what the entire Left had to say about that, “ “.

Lefties, “BEST PRESIDENT EVER!” Oh that’s right, he wasn’t vile enough for them. He didn’t follow through with what he promised.

One can only imagine what the Left would really like to back for president.


56 posted on 06/20/2012 9:53:37 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: NFHale; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
RE :”I would like to see Romney grab a microphone and a camera and make a very public statement

Don't hold your breath. He will do that when he explains what he would do with Obama’s amnesty order as/if POTUS, and what programs he would cut funding from, etc.

You have faith in him?

57 posted on 06/20/2012 9:57:42 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike; All

As for Nixon...

At least there was no gun running involved.

At least there were no dead law enforcement officers.

At least there was a citizen in the Oval Office.

At least Nixon had personal documents...

At least we know where Nixon was born.


58 posted on 06/20/2012 9:59:27 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: sickoflibs

“...You have faith in him? ...”

I Didn’t say that.

I said, I’d like to see it happen.

If I was a politician, I’d waste no time in throwing the searchlight back on the other side, and hammer that talking point until it made their noses bleed.

But yeah, you’re right...I’m not going to hold my breath on it. If the next step is to go the AG, and Holder IS the AG, then this is a circle jerk at the end of the day.

But the good thing is, it shines a light and points a finger, and some people who aren’t paying attention might wake up a little.


59 posted on 06/20/2012 10:03:38 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: DoughtyOne

“...We all know the Left’s take on guns...”

Yeah, ultimately it’s TO take all guns.

Good luck with that...


60 posted on 06/20/2012 10:04:22 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: sickoflibs
I am sorry, 'refusing to testify under oath' is different than Holder lying to Congress.

We knew at least on two points Holder lied under oath - 1) he testified he did not talk to Obama about F&F; 2) he retracted claim on Bush AG

Roger Clemens just went through 'lying to Congress under oath'. Eric Holder as AG did just that. Who in DoJ is going to prosecute that? We know Holder definitely will not.

61 posted on 06/20/2012 10:13:59 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Sir Napsalot
RE :”Eric Holder as AG did just that. Who in DoJ is going to prosecute that? We know Holder definitely will not.

That is my point. Holder is running the show. Republicans in the House know this.

62 posted on 06/20/2012 10:17:53 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: NFHale; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Sir Napsalot
RE :”But yeah, you’re right...I’m not going to hold my breath on it. If the next step is to go the AG, and Holder IS the AG, then this is a circle jerk at the end of the day

Yep, my patience for Republicans getting NO results but lots of talk is long gone. And usually after much noise they manage to lower their own opinion polls and raise Obamas. Drama does nothing for me.

Example : Lindsey Graham on CBS Sunday saying that Obama's amnesty executive order is illegal really pissed me off. That RINO's phoniness really gets to me.

63 posted on 06/20/2012 10:18:15 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: DoughtyOne

And Nixon was a staunch anti-communist


64 posted on 06/20/2012 10:30:18 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: Wurlitzer

Very well said.

Now which representatives can we contact to insist they do their job? It’s in a committee right now, correct?


65 posted on 06/20/2012 10:30:19 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: sickoflibs
It would be so easy & effective if Romney were to use this as a campaign issue. No hyperbole, just use what are known facts of the case.

The democrats & media couldn't help but play right into his hands, because they couldn't leave the charges unanswered - they'd go over the top, as usual.

And as inept as he's proven to be, the electorate is very much in the mood to find Obama guilty of something.

66 posted on 06/20/2012 10:32:27 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Hotlanta Mike

True.


67 posted on 06/20/2012 10:33:07 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: Sir Napsalot
RE :”I am sorry, ‘refusing to testify under oath’ is different than Holder lying to Congress.

The main difference is that those under GWB refusing to testify were WH advisors(Rove was one) , not confirmed officials like Holder who must testify.

Conyers called them in to set a perjury trap for them but they refused to come.

68 posted on 06/20/2012 10:38:38 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: bigbob

“I’m Still Screwing Around (ISSA) and Boner are idiots”


Its over when the tan man cries.


69 posted on 06/20/2012 10:39:56 AM PDT by hummingbird (Breitbart and Spartacus: here, there, everywhere.)
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To: skeeter
RE :”It would be so easy & effective if Romney were to use this as a campaign issue. No hyperbole, just use what are known facts of the case......
And as inept as he's proven to be, the electorate is very much in the mood to find Obama guilty of something.

I don't know what Tea leaves you are reading but Romney will do nothing, say nothing, so I will avoid the hypotheticals about what would happen if he did.

70 posted on 06/20/2012 10:42:29 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: hedgetrimmer

If the committee votes for contempt of congress, I believe it first goes to the entire house so contacting your local rep would be proper.


71 posted on 06/20/2012 10:44:14 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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” The AG still had to testify under oath, but my point is the AG will just ignore the referral/indictment. “

YEP


72 posted on 06/20/2012 10:53:55 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: sickoflibs
Hey he wasn't my first or second choice (or third or fourth) but I have to admit that Romney seems a little more willing to play rough than did his predecessor, or even is the GOP leadership in congress.

In fact this thing has gotten much bigger in the media since this thread began.

Hope springs eternal.

73 posted on 06/20/2012 1:14:26 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Something that's been ignored from the very beginning is the fact that this whole mess was thought up and run WITHOUT the consent, knowledge, or assistance of the Mexican government, meaning that there was never any intention of "tracking" these weapons, but only to "recover" them at the crime scenes.

And this SHOULD lead to questions as to why the government which had stopped claiming that guns sold by American gun dealers were turning up at Mexican crime scenes would suddenly start funneling guns to the very drug cartels that were committing all the murders.

The two scary things about this whole mess are:

1) That there were only a few government agents willing to come forward and become whistleblowers. The rest were willing to sit back and watch the government allow the arming of drug cartels who would be committing untold numbers of murders.

2) That the ministry of propaganda, which within my lifetime has morphed from an independent press, keeping an eye on the government to help "keep it in line," to nothing more than a bunch of enablers, actively working towards the reelection of an imperial ruler.

Mark

74 posted on 06/20/2012 1:36:57 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: NFHale

” They’re trying. Gotta give Issa a lot of credit. He’s fighting Boehner and others in his own party, “

He sure is!!


75 posted on 06/20/2012 1:42:00 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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Thanks sickoflibs.


76 posted on 06/20/2012 2:52:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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