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Obama Pioneers White House Gun Scandal Cover-Up, says Gun Dean
expertclick.com ^ | 24 June, 20112 | John M. Snyder

Posted on 06/25/2012 7:01:41 PM PDT by marktwain

"Obama is the pioneer of the White House attempt to cover-up the federal government gun scandal," gun rights expert John M. Snyder said here today.

Human Events has noted that Snyder is the gun dean.

"There's no doubt about it now," said Snyder. "President Obama has put himself right in the middle of the Fast and Furious scandal. His invocation of executive privilege places him at the center of the situation as he seeks reelection."

Snyder said that, "Obama's move could be a crucial factor in November. The Fast and Furious scandal has upset the entire Second Amendment community. It also has upset citizens who are sick and tired of government incompetence, chicanery, and deception.

"Obama's action in trying to protect Attorney General Holder from a congressional contempt citation really is an outrage. It causes people to wonder what Holder and Obama are trying to cover up and who they're trying to protect."

"The whole Fast and Furious matter stinks to high heaven," said Snyder. "In that operation, Federal officials got American firearm dealers to sell guns to straw purchasers who transferred them to Mexican drug cartels, allowing thousands of guns to 'walk' across the border. Gangsters used the guns in victimizing many Mexicans and Americans. This included the murder of at least one Federal law enforcement officer.

"Congressional investigators for some time have been trying to get to the bottom of the story. They want documents from the Justice Department and its Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. Holder's been stonewalling Congress. A contempt citation against him is moving towards a vote in the House of Representatives."

Snyder said that, "Obama now leaves no doubt that he is part of the government stonewalling attempt. In fact, he's leading it. He's pioneering the White House into a confrontation with Congress. Congress has a right to the documents. The American people have a right to see what's in them.

"Stonewall Twins Obama and Holder are trying to thwart the will of Congress and the American people. American voters will have an opportunity to thwart Obama as he seeks reelection this fall."

John M. Snyder Manager Telum Associates, LLC Arlington, VA 202-239-8005


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2deadfeds; 300deadmexicans; atf; banglist; brianterry; corruption; dea; democrats; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; fraud; guncontrol; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; ice; jaimezapata; murdergate; obama; obamatruthfile; terry; treason; undertheradar; zapata
Executive privilege seems inappropriate in this case.
1 posted on 06/25/2012 7:01:50 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

2 posted on 06/25/2012 7:05:45 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: marktwain

Obama probably didn’t lose any 2d amendment supporter votes, he never had them to begin with. But there will be renewed energy to end his presidency.


3 posted on 06/25/2012 7:06:01 PM PDT by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: marktwain

It’s in your face stuff by Obama. What clearer example of the statement by the Democrats and administration that they are no longer paying attention to the white middle class voter. You need any more proof?? If after his term in the WH this man wins again the USA is doomed to the junk heap of civilizations past that have gone down the same path.
I wouldn’t give Obama the keys to the Out House never mind the White House. I wonder when Hinckley is scheduled for parole.


4 posted on 06/25/2012 7:14:43 PM PDT by bramps (Newt was the one, but Romney will do.)
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To: bramps

Obozo gets away with this and gets another term, F&F is nothing compared to what they are planning for US citizens that own guns. You people had better be prepared to resist when the Brown Shirts come to your house. Or you can give them your guns. If you give them your guns, you will be on the top of the list for “re-education” at a FEMA camp.

Bet on it.

The time is coming when people in this country will have to decide whether they will be serfs or willing to make the necessary sacrifices to remain free men. One or the other, there will be no in between.


5 posted on 06/25/2012 7:32:56 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: bramps

“I wouldn’t give Obama the keys to the Out House never mind the White House. I wonder when Hinckley is scheduled for parole.”

One might say he’s been paroled as of 3 years ago.... 12 ten-day visits a year with mom and a driver license.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hinckley,_Jr.


6 posted on 06/25/2012 7:33:58 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: sgtyork

Don’t be so sure his opponent is gaining a few votes...My neighbors and son have never been political. They have all made sure their voter registration is up to date so they can vote against BO.


7 posted on 06/25/2012 7:37:38 PM PDT by hoosiermama ( Obama: " born in Kenya.".. he's lying now or then?)
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To: sgtyork

The difference this vote is that there are a lot MORE 2nd Amendment voters than there were before he took office. Directly because of Obama himself. And he doesn’t have THEIR votes.


8 posted on 06/25/2012 8:07:34 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

http://www.whatwouldthefoundersthink.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Fast-and-furious-Holder.jpg";

*****************This Is Important Information on Fast & Furious**************

Eric Holder, Janet Napolitano, Sec. of State’s office & White House (Robert Gibbs) were all aware of “Project Gunrunner” on “March 24th,2009”!!

Exerpt:

Two years earlier: On March 24, 2009, a 30-minute news conference was held at the White House by Press Secretary Robert Gibbs that included Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, newly appointed Deputy Attorney General David Ogden, and Deputy Secretary of State Jim Steinberg.

About 13 minutes into the press conference, Ogden, was introduced to:

discuss “joint DOJ and ATF operations”.

Ogden, who had been on the job for a mere 12 days,

“referred to Project Gunrunner and other ancillary ATF programs by name”, and stated that:

“he was working ‘directly’ with the Attorney General” on the “implementation of these programs that included Project Gunrunner”.

link:

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/284798-4

Mike Vanderboegh at Sipsey Street Irregulars – October 7, 2011:

It is now the morning of “26 March 2009”. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is in Mexico City. In an interview recorded the day before with Lara Logan, Clinton says,

“We have to recognize and accept that the demand for drugs from the United States drives them north, and the guns that are used by the drug cartels against the police and the military, “90 percent” of them come from America.”...[NOT TRUE!!/my Comment}

The next month, President Barack Obama is in Mexico City and at a joint press conference with Mexican President Felipe Calderon, repeats the same meme:

“This war is being waged with guns purchased not here, but in the United States. More than “90 percent” of the guns recovered in Mexico come from the United States, many from gun shops that line our shared border.”

He also says ‘I have not backed off’ on “a new assault weapons ban”...

Isikoff, Clinton and Obama were simply parroting a meme begun by notoriously anti-firearm Senators Dick Durbin and Dianne Feinstein during a 17 March congressional hearing.

Durbin said: “According to ATF [the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives], more than “90 percent” of the guns seized after raids or shootings in Mexico have been traced right here to the United States of America.”
Feinstein added: “It is unacceptable to have 90 percent of the guns that are picked up in Mexico used to shoot judges, police officers, mayors, kidnap innocent people and do terrible things come from the United States, and I think we must put a stop to that.”

The “90 percent” allegation was dutifully reported as fact by a whole host of news organizations including the Christian Science Monitor, Washington Post, the New York Times, NBC and the Chicago Tribune.

Sipsey Street Irregulars, in the article linked and quoted above, reports that Fox News refuted the 90% stat and “put it closer to 17%.”

************ More Information!! ********

One of Eric Holders statements made in “1995”:

****** “It was the job of the Government to.... ‘Brainwash’..... the people into thinking about guns in a vastly different way!!” ******

(Newly surfaced Video Recorded on CSPAN2) http://www.theblaze.com/stories/holder-in-1995-we-must-brainwash-people-against-guns/

3/30/2011 Obama spoke to gun control advocate Sara Brady..... She said :”The President told her Gun Control was very much on his agenda”..... Then Mr Obama added: “I just want you to know we are working on it”. He went on to say: “We have to go through a few processes; but, “UNDER THE RADAR”!!


9 posted on 06/25/2012 8:32:04 PM PDT by ebysan (ebysan)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
“re-education” at a FEMA camp

There will be a parting of the fabric of the nation before that happens in Texas. Trust me, not going to happen. Just imagine what a can of worms that would open. Pandora's box.

10 posted on 06/25/2012 8:40:28 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: ebysan

“*****************This Is Important Information on Fast & Furious**************”

I just Found more relative information!!

2 Days after white house meeting 3/24/09..... Sec of State Clinton goes to Mexico & claims that 90% of the Guns used by Mexican Cartel come from the US!!!
*****************************************
Mike Vanderboegh at Sipsey Street Irregulars – October 7, 2011:

It is now the morning of “26 March 2009”. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is in Mexico City. In an interview recorded the day before with Lara Logan, Clinton says,

“We have to recognize and accept that the demand for drugs from the United States drives them north, and the guns that are used by the drug cartels against the police and the military, “90 percent” of them come from America.”...

The next month, President Barack Obama is in Mexico City and at a joint press conference with Mexican President Felipe Calderon, repeats the same meme:

“This war is being waged with guns purchased not here, but in the United States. More than “90 percent” of the guns recovered in Mexico come from the United States, many from gun shops that line our shared border.”

He also says ‘I have not backed off’ on “a new assault weapons ban”...

Isikoff, Clinton and Obama were simply parroting a meme begun by notoriously anti-firearm Senators Dick Durbin and Dianne Feinstein during a 17 March congressional hearing.

Durbin said: “According to ATF [the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives], more than 90 percent of the guns seized after raids or shootings in Mexico have been traced right here to the United States of America.”

Feinstein added: “It is unacceptable to have 90 percent of the guns that are picked up in Mexico used to shoot judges, police officers, mayors, kidnap innocent people and do terrible things come from the United States, and I think we must put a stop to that.”

The “90 percent” allegation was dutifully reported as fact by a whole host of news organizations including the Christian Science Monitor, Washington Post, the New York Times, NBC and the Chicago Tribune.

Sipsey Street Irregulars, in the article linked and quoted above, reports that Fox News refuted the 90% stat and “put it closer to 17%.” The 17% was refuted of course and bounced back and forth between 80% and 70%. Details here:

http://teapartyorg.ning.com/forum/topics/breaking-must-read-hillary-clinton-deep-in-fast-and-furious?page=4&commentId=4301673%3AComment%3A787659&x=1#4301673Comment787659


11 posted on 06/25/2012 9:18:01 PM PDT by ebysan (ebysan)
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To: ebysan

and her close relationship with the Muslim Brotherhood is *freaky* **scary** and ***traitorous***.


12 posted on 06/25/2012 9:40:39 PM PDT by bitt (These Commies are making it impossible to stick to my self-imposed moratorium on foul language)
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To: bitt
and her close relationship with the Muslim Brotherhood is *freaky* **scary** and ***traitorous***.

Oh... come on.

Just because Huma Abedin's mother is a high ranking member of the MB doesn't mean anything. (/s)

13 posted on 06/25/2012 10:08:02 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: bitt

“and her close relationship with the Muslim Brotherhood is *freaky* **scary** and ***traitorous***.”

Agree!!!!!!!! I believe Clinton wanted the Muslim Brotherhood to gain power in Egypt!!..... “God” save us!!

This information about:

Holder, Clinton, Napolitano & the WH were all aware of “Project Gunrunning” 3/24/09 ..........needs to be spread to others.

They were all lying to Congress when they said they did not know of Fast & Furious until 2012.... Clinton & Holder said they read about it in the newspaper!!!!!!!! Do you believe that??


14 posted on 06/25/2012 10:45:39 PM PDT by ebysan (ebysan)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

“You people had better be prepared to resist when the Brown Shirts come to your house.”

We’ve already confronted the Brown Shirts who tried to crash a Tea Party meeting in my state, and they ran away like dogs.


15 posted on 06/26/2012 6:09:56 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Public unions exist to protect the unions from the taxpaying public)
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To: sergeantdave

Can U please be more specific please? I’ve been out of touch since I went out of town last week.


16 posted on 06/26/2012 6:31:26 AM PDT by STD ([You must help] people in the communityÂ…feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless)
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To: marktwain
Let's call it what it is. State-sponsored terrorism.

On this side of the border it's violations of the RICO Act. In Mexico and Honduras it's state-sponsored terrorism.

What else would you call heavily arming international criminal syndicates within a foreign country wherein that country is in a death struggle with those syndicates?

Especially when it goes beyond thousands of assault rifles to include grenades, RPGs, shoulder fired rockets, anti-aircraft guns, night vision equipment, body armor and special deals to bring their drugs onto our soil with legal impunity?

Not to mention that the rip crew that killed BP Agent Brian Terry was there with DEA and FBI assistance and approval to attack and kill a rival cartel's smuggling crew.

Let's not leave out the DEA laundering millions of dollars for the drug cartels by setting up bank accounts for them that they otherwise couldn't do.

It's organized, it is spread through every Federal LEA and it violates numerous domestic laws and numerous statutes and treaties that deal with foreign nations. Yet none of it has been officially sanctioned. It's the FedGov acting like mafiosa.

0bama, Holder and Hillary Clinton are all deeply involved in this and it is state-sponsored terrorism. These criminal thugs are dragging our country down to the level of Tehran and Pyongyang.


17 posted on 06/26/2012 8:02:56 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye
What else would you call heavily arming international criminal syndicates within a foreign country wherein that country is in a death struggle with those syndicates?

How about "an act of war"?

18 posted on 06/26/2012 8:30:38 AM PDT by kevkrom (Those in a rush to trample the Constitution seem to forget that it is the source of their authority.)
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To: kevkrom

It is obviously an act of war but I was being more specific as to the type of act it is.


19 posted on 06/26/2012 8:40:03 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: sergeantdave

Good. But I’m talking about the official, armed ones the government will send out to your home with M16s and body armor. BATF or DHS.

I’m not a “black helicopter” kook. I would bet a week’s pay that in private the WH has had discussions of how to confiscate firearms *if* they can get them outlawed, or a state of emergency can be *engineered*.

Remember what happened during Katrina.


20 posted on 06/26/2012 11:25:17 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

“But I’m talking about the official, armed ones the government will send out to your home with M16s and body armor. BATF or DHS”

The ATF surrendered to women and children 15 minutes into the firefight at the Davidian church at Waco. If you missed the video of the initial siege, you can see the big bad ATF boys walking away with their hands in the air.

The ATF is the federal government’s Eisengruppen, designed to create terror in the population by attacking women and children. They are cowards, not warriors.

Check out the typical ATF slob at the Elian Gonzalez raid in Florida. Look at the MSM news reports. Most are fat 400-lb slobs who wouldn’t last five minutes on a battlefield. Furthermore, there’s no reason to wait for the gestapo to knock at your door.


21 posted on 06/26/2012 4:51:49 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Public unions exist to protect the unions from the taxpaying public)
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To: sergeantdave

Hey, how the heck are you? Been a while since 9/12. I’ve seriously beefed up my domestic defense hardware and done several Appleseeds to improve my marksmanship. I won’t win any competitions, but I am a lot better than I was 3 years ago.

Don’t discount the domestic use of the military. The army (illegally) participated in the WACO affair. Denied of course.

It has been made pretty clear that use of the US military is on the table to keep “order” as defined by the current occupant of the White House.

I disagree strongly with those that believe the members of the military won’t obey orders to subjugate us. History says otherwise.


22 posted on 06/26/2012 7:27:25 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

“I disagree strongly with those that believe the members of the military won’t obey orders to subjugate us. History says otherwise.”

I guess that’s where we disagree. When Lincoln ordered his generals to attack the south, the military split in half.

The most recent example to study is Libya. When Koo-koo Kaddafhi ordered his military to attack Libyans, the bulk of the military deserted and joined provincial militias.

His military commanders were dragged into the courtyard and had their brains blown out.

Kaddafki’s personal mercenary guard were hanged from lampposts or dragged into the street and shot.

Kadaffhi’s brains ended up as a hood ornament on a militia SUV. It’s never a good idea to order your military to kill their families.

If you can provide an example of a king, dictator or tyrant who successfully ordered his troops to kill their parents and families, I’m listening.

Cheers, FRiend


23 posted on 06/26/2012 8:06:51 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Public unions exist to protect the unions from the taxpaying public)
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