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Affordable Care Act SCOTUS Decision--Live Thread
SCOTUSblog ^ | June 28, 2012 | SCOTUSblog

Posted on 06/28/2012 4:56:21 AM PDT by John W

Today is the day. SCOTUSblog live at 8:45 AM.

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To: John W

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101 posted on 06/28/2012 6:15:38 AM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: joe fonebone

“Roberts is a constitutionalist, not a conservative..”

You might want to read Scalia’s dissent. The Constitution gives Congress the power to determine who is a citizen. It says nothing about controlling the borders.


102 posted on 06/28/2012 6:17:19 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (A conservative can't please a liberal unless he jumps in front of a bus or off of a cliff)
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To: John W
I'm getting mixed signals from my ox hairball.

Nothing works right any more...

103 posted on 06/28/2012 6:18:27 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: All
Yesterday's big news among the Lefty chattering class was that the publisher of the SCOTUS Blog predicted that the mandate would be upheld. Today we learn this:

"Tom: One disclosure re the health care cases: Kevin and I filed a brief for the AARP in support of the mandate. But our client knew that we'd be objectively reporting on the decision."

Now we find out that he actually represents AARP and filed a brief in the case urging that the mandate be upheld.

Who ever said Lefty lawyers weren't slimy bastids?

104 posted on 06/28/2012 6:18:45 AM PDT by TonyInOhio (What did the President know and when did he know it?)
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To: Eastbound
Depends what level of 'courage' are you talking about?

Our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor kind of courage.
105 posted on 06/28/2012 6:19:24 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: John W; prisoner6; mamelukesabre; IrishPennant; nhoward14; mike_9958; Psycho_Bunny; samtheman; ...
kabar: So much is at stake today. Will the system rise to the challenge?

Today is proof that the system is the challenge.

106 posted on 06/28/2012 6:20:16 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: TonyInOhio

yep


107 posted on 06/28/2012 6:20:27 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: Madame Dufarge

My Magic 8 Ball is on the fritz as well.....


108 posted on 06/28/2012 6:20:30 AM PDT by ducttape45
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To: unixfox
This along with the Holder contempt vote today. Could be a bad day for the commie/marxists.

I can't wait to taste the tears of their sorrow!
109 posted on 06/28/2012 6:20:51 AM PDT by freebird5850 (Just don't have a tagline today. This administration makes me quite sad.)
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To: freebird5850

37 minutes to a new birth of freedom.


110 posted on 06/28/2012 6:22:46 AM PDT by exit82
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To: EternalVigilance

The states cannot pass any law pertaining to immigration and naturalization policies.

Period

But, your fears are indeed justified

So, what is a state to do?

Time to jump all over the backside of the state attorney general

document, and place a dollar amount, on everything that the illegal’s have cost, including attacks on citizens.

sue the federal government for said costs..

Have the ninth circus rule that the states cannot sue the feds..

Appeal to supreme court

Win your case

Perhaps, with a little forethought, arizona could have taken this action first, instead of trying to pass a law that could, would and should never pass constitiutional muster..


111 posted on 06/28/2012 6:23:44 AM PDT by joe fonebone (I am the 15%)
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To: exit82

more like an hour, two ruling will be ahead of it.


112 posted on 06/28/2012 6:23:58 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
I thinking the ruling goes against ObamaCare, we see the beginning of the phase out of Dear Leader by the Dims as damage control.......The stress will just “get to him” and he will step aside—my gut feeling.

I'm afraid you're wrong.

Ruling in favor of Ocare is obviously trouble for the republic. Ruling against, and otherwise a lame duck Marxist in the whitehouse for half a year? Like an alcoholic locked in a liquor store. What damage could he do?

113 posted on 06/28/2012 6:25:25 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sam_paine
"Today is proof that the system is the challenge."

Touche'

114 posted on 06/28/2012 6:26:06 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Mr Rogers

We discussed ad infinitum why Roberts joined the majority for SB1070. Roberts is going to be solid on this one.


115 posted on 06/28/2012 6:27:09 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: All

Just found thread!! Cant watch on TV, will follow here. I am a nervous wreck, lol. Either too much coffee or afraid that the court upholds this damn thing


116 posted on 06/28/2012 6:28:29 AM PDT by GoCards (I am a Hobbit)
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To: All

Just wanted to make a note here to remind everyone that the Obamacare legislation did NOT include a SEVERABILITY CLAUSE which legally means that if SCOTUS strikes down the mandate, then the entire law SHOULD be scrapped, immediately.


117 posted on 06/28/2012 6:29:19 AM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: Perdogg

It is irrelevant. The infrastructure is in place. The HHS has already written rules. Money has already been paid in. The insurance companies have already made significant changes. Jobs have been created.

If Obama wins this, he declares it is only the first part of the new law and that much more has to be done. That will be the nod to his constituencies.

If Obama loses, same thing applies.

The most important aspect of this entire program that is not being addressed is this. This program is Cloward Piven on steroids. It is designed to put the nail in the coffin of the middle class. If you are wealthy enough, you will find a way to get your waiver. If you are poor enough, you won’t pay a dime into this. If you are in the middle class, you are going to be sucked dry until you are poor.

Within one election cycle, there will no longer be a middle class. Sorry people, the train has left the station and the on;y set of brakes we had was destroyed by the MSM when they picked Romney as our candidate.


118 posted on 06/28/2012 6:32:00 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (ABO 2012)
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To: John W

Guess we are about to find out if bam made himself “perfectly clear” during his secret unconstitutional clandestine meeting with the “THE ROBED ONES” in ‘08


119 posted on 06/28/2012 6:32:15 AM PDT by Chance Hart
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To: LibertyRocks
"Just wanted to make a note here to remind everyone that the Obamacare legislation did NOT include a SEVERABILITY CLAUSE which legally means that if SCOTUS strikes down the mandate, then the entire law SHOULD be scrapped, immediately."

That's not quite true. While a specific decision not to include a severability clause is a relevant factor to consider, the court can still strike down a portion of a law if it can be done so in accordance with the blue pencil doctrine.

120 posted on 06/28/2012 6:35:48 AM PDT by circlecity
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