Skip to comments.Santorum: Romneycare 'hasn't worked in Mass'- 'voting for Romney over Obama a clear choice for me'
Posted on 06/30/2012 2:43:06 PM PDT by Innovative
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Romney will have to say; “I made a mistake is Massachusetts”
What will Romney supporters do when he doesn’t repeal Obamacare?? And he cites Romneycare as the reason??!
Mutiny against him in Congress
Romney is a finger to the wind people pleaser.
Romney gave the majority of Massachusetts just what they asked for. Ya want strawberry Kool-Aid, Massachusetts? Here ‘tis, complete with cyanide! To him, of course Massachusetts would never be a mistake. But to him it WOULD be a mistake to wish it on all states from above through a misbegotten law whose pure-Democrat vote the reaction thereto caused the complexion of the House to change in 2010.
Such a person is more pliable than Barack Obama, who only pleases his close lefty buddies no matter what the majority of the US is demanding.
I am not talking about people coming to the realization that Romney is the only one standing after the Primaries, I am talking about the supposed individuals who spent their time during the Primaries PROMOTING, SUPPORTING and ENCOURAGING other FReepers to Vote Romney in their State Primary Elections.
Since you are now the fourth person spreading this line of thinking I ask again, got a name? So far all I get is a snarky reply, so I am looking forward to some facts, unless you are Asleep at the Wheel.
It went like this, led by Mr. ROmneyCARE and the FELON and the SWIMMER.
Note that Mr. RomneyCARE is to the LEFT of Ted Kennedy:
BEHOLD MR.ROMNEYCARE IMPOSING OBAMACARE AND RomneyDEATHPANELS.
It would be very interesting to see what a Mass. referendum would do for those things, and I encourage the people of Mass. to try to shuck them off now that they see what it means. I believe that gay marriage has never survived a referendum in any state to date.
However, Romneycare could not have gotten anywhere without the representative legislative vote. Gay marriage was a bow to the court — which was cowardly, but what do you expect of a political pleaser. (After all he had no way to buck the court.)
I’m having computer issues, so I can’t access the “search” function; but, yes, I can give you a name off the top of my head: PSYCHO-FREEP. As I recall (and which I noted and posted about at the time) the vast majority of the articles that he posted were posted to show Rick Santorum in the worst possible light and to help out Romney. As I said, I can’t access the search function right now, but I remember him saying at one point, in defending his actions, something like “I did what I had to do.”
He wasn’t the only one. But, you wanted a name, I give you a name. But there were others.
You are mistaken.
Mr. ROMNEYCARE imposed his plans by his FIAT alone. ALONE.
Note Mr. RomneyCAREs use of improper executive authority.
"While former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney claims he did everything possible to throttle homosexual marriage in his state his campaign now saying he took "every conceivable step within the law to defend traditional marriage" several constitutional experts say that just isn't so.
"What Romney did [was] he exercised illegal legislative authority," Herb Titus said of the governor's actions after the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court released its opinion in the Goodridge case in 2003. "He was bound by what? There was no order. There wasn't even any order to the Department of Public Health to do anything."
Titus, a Harvard law graduate, was founding dean of Pat Robertson's Regent University Law School. He also worked with former Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore, ...
Romney's aides have told WND that after four of the seven court members reinterpreted the definition of marriage, he believed he had no choice but to direct clerks and others to change state marriage forms and begin registering same-sex couples.
Some opponents contend that with those actions, Romney did no more or less than create the first homosexual marriages recognized in the nation. And Titus agrees."
"....But the court's decision conflicts with the constitutional philosophy of three co-equal branches of government: executive, legislative and judicial, Titus said. It also violates with the Massachusetts Constitution, which states: "The power of suspending the laws, or (suspending) the execution of the laws, ought never to be exercised but by the legislature..."
And it cannot even be derived from the opinion itself, asserts the pro-family activist group Mass Resistance, which says the decision did four things:
* First, it acknowledged that the current law does not permit same-sex marriage.
"The only reasonable explanation is that the Legislature did not intend that same-sex couples be licensed to marry. We conclude, as did the judge, that G.L. c. 207 may not be construed to permit same-sex couples to marry."
* Second, it said it is NOT striking down the marriage laws (among other things, the Massachusetts Constitution forbids a court to change laws)
"Here, no one argues that striking down the marriage laws is an appropriate form of relief."
* Third, it declared that not allowing same-sex marriages is a violation of the Massachusetts Constitution.
"We declare that barring an individual from the protections, benefits, and obligations of civil marriage solely because that person would marry a person of the same sex violates the Massachusetts Constitution."
* And fourth, given that the court is not changing any laws, the SJC gave the Legislature 180 days to "take such action as it may deem appropriate."
"We vacate the summary judgment for the department. We remand this case to the Superior Court for entry of judgment consistent with this opinion. Entry of judgment shall be stayed for 180 days to permit the Legislature to take such action as it may deem appropriate in light of this opinion."
After the Legislature did nothing during the 180 days, Romney then took action "on his own," the group said.
"Gov. Romney's legal counsel issued a directive to the Justices of the Peace that they must perform same-sex marriages when requested or 'face personal liability' or be fired," the group said."
Yeah, he was p*ssy whipped by the court.
He could have just sat and ate popcorn waiting for the court to issue its contempt rulings and seeing to whom they would be issued.
Shame on that legislature too for not saying to the court “you order us to put that in our code, something no state court has ever done before? OK, we impeach you.”
You are disingenuous.
Mr. RomneyCARE was NOT pussy whipped, but he
is a cowardly pussy except against women,
and especially conservative women.
FACT: Mr. ROMNEYCARE OVERRODE THE MASS. CONSTITUTION.
That is of no concern to you, of course.
If there was even a snowballs chance in Hell that Romney would be replaced at the Convention with a Conservative Candidate, there would be a groundswell of support for it among the mystical fabled “Romneybots” here at FR.
Alas, reality is a bitch. You go with the cards you are dealt and we Conservatives were dealt a bad hand. You don't get a new deal because you're unhappy with the Dealer for what he gave you. You play or fold.
As it stands now, FR looks to be about 50/50, play or fold.
The Republican Primary Voters were essentially the Dealer. You obviously didn't do enough during the Primaries to convince enough people that your person of choice was the right person for them to support. You failed, I failed and a whole lot of other Conservatives obviously failed as well.
We are left with either trying to win the Pot or giving away what we already invested into it. You choose to walk away, others here understand the stakes of another Obama Term.
There was no joy or spiking the ball among us FReepers because the Republican Voters chose Romney, but even his Competitors, the same Conservatives we all Voted for, have gone on to support his Candidacy against the Worst President of our lifetimes.
>”IT IS NOT TOO LATE TO KICK ROMNEY TO THE CURB. WE HAVE NOT HAD THE CONVENTION YET. DO IT BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”<
That sounds like a great idea, but if it doesn't come to fruition, then what? Like an Old Navy Chief told me years ago, “wish in one hand and spit in the other and see which hand fills up first”. I'll hold out for your proclamation, but I'm not holding my breath.
Your dragging both issues into a discussion about one tells me a lot about YOU.
I appreciate your response. Nobody else that made the same accusations was willing to step up, which made me even more suspect about their proclamations.
I will take a look at the Postings as I promised. I may owe you a dollar, the same bet I made with the others that weren’t so willing to back up their claims. #;^)
I will be copying PSYCHO-FREEP on this Post as a courtesy.
Sorry, I messed up my last comment. It should read:
I will be copying PSYCHO-FREEP on this Post as a courtesy >AS YOU DID ON YOUR ORIGINAL POST<.
I’ve regained some use of my computer again. Clicking on his screen name yields “This account has been banned or suspended.”
He was probably the most prolific poster on the political threads during the primary. He was subtle at first, but apparently not subtle enough.
Thanks for your response. Good night.
Thanks my FRiend. Sleep well.
That sounds like a great idea, but if it doesn’t come to fruition, then what? Like an Old Navy Chief told me years ago, wish in one hand and spit in the other and see which hand fills up first. I’ll hold out for your proclamation, but I’m not holding my breath.
Then I will vote for Romney, but until November, I am complaining that as a collective WE suck. I am one of those old Chiefs....I guess “my brother” is smarter than I am....lol.
The fact that you care there are two issues
demonstrates you are a RomneyBOT.
The fact that you defend both (THAT Mr. ROMNEYCARE
is the original AUTHOR of) shows that you are
attempting to trick and to fool conservatives.
Still off your meds?
one can always tell a RomneyBOT by their
backstabbing at all hours of the day, without
a gram of reason -— EXCEPT they are on their
knees MILITANTLY for their Bishop, Willard Romney.
Yep - off yer meds.
It is not what these brave Hero's died for, they died for FREEDOM and a REPUBLIC, not another russia, cuba, or another dictator.
Tennessee has it’s own brand of socialized medicine....that replaces Medicaid and it has been down sized 3 times for nearly bankrupting the state since it’s inception...and will go through a 4th here very shortly.
IF you owned your own home a car and had more than $2,000 in the bank and could not work, they turned you down even if you were ‘high’ risk health wise. Culling the sick...death panels if you want to call it that.
Now it is chock full of ILLEGAL INVADERS while Granny is trying to scrape by on her RATIONED Medicare.
Thanks for your service my FRiend. My Dad is an old Navy Man too. He was enjoying the Tropical Weather, I think they call it a Typhoon, off Iwo Jima back in 1944-1945.
Great post Gail:) I am no longer a republican. Constitution and Tea Parties are the way I go now. After witnessing the tremendous and historical change made in Wisconsin by Walker and the Tea Party folks..I have hope.
There's two positive things about Romney.
1. The jerks I mentioned will be gone.
2. Bought time until someone better gets nominated.
In the meantime, we need to concentrate our efforts downticket so there's a better farm club. Most of the better picks for POTUS still need experience in governors mansions. When the last four standing are Romney, Santorum, Paul, and Newt, the bench is rather thin.
I’ve gone from refusal to vote Romney to begrudging vote where I need a shower afterward. Obama pissed me off that much. I’ll be enthusiastic about downticket.
I detest Romney but I would rather stand before God to explain why I voted for him than to stand before God and explain why I didn’t vote and helped Obama be elected. My main focus right now is to get Obama out. If that means getting Romney in then so be it. Nobody is worse than Obama. Close maybe, but not worse.
If rump-ranging posing as "marriage" simply MUST be rammed down the public's throat;
If the Roman Catholic and each and every other pro-life church simply MUST be persecuted into submission to a false god in the White House;
If guns simply MUST be grabbed;
If serial lying simply MUST continue to be the basic tactic of the White House after this November's serial lying World Series;
Then let the baby slaughter, the faggot coddling, the religious persecution, the gun grabbing; and the serial lying be done by the Demonrats while actual conservatives (the actual Republicans) regroup, re-organize, systematically annihilate the spineless Romney love slaves and other RINOs, deepen their principled hatred of all things Demonrat, and make the GOP once more a party for respectable and moral people and decapitate the Demonrats in future elections rather than becoming what the Demonrats already are by electing Myth Romney as the final solution to what remains of conservatism in the GOP.
If Myth Romney DOES manage to be elected, it will then be necessary to utterly destroy the imposter party posing as the GOP. Let's save ourselves the trouble and destroy Romney now. If Romney were honest (something not possible with his familial DNA) he would certainly have a D after his name too.
1. Is Romney not (and always has been) a pro-abort like his mama before him? Prove it!
2. Did Romney NOT persecute the Roman Catholic Church and every other pro-life church by making them fund abortion (among a substantial menu of other atrocities under ROMNEYCARE??? Prove it!
3. Is Romney not the governor of Taxachusetts who crammed faggotry posing as "marriage" down the throats of the Massachusetts public in SPITE of a Supreme Judicial Court opinion which simply ruled irrationally that faggotry posing as "marriage" was some sort of "civil right" under John Adams' ancient state constitution??? Prove it!
4. Did Romney not enact or expand the "assault weapons" ban??? Prove it!
5. Do you actually suggest that the lifelong leftist lying POS Myth Romney is NOT a lying POS? Prove it!
If your answer to any of 1-5 is at all favorable to the hilarious notion that Romney is somehow on the conservative side of ANY of those questions (and many more could be asked with equal confidence), PROVE IT IN DETAIL.
Obama with a D= Romney the D with an "R."
In the absence of such proofs, I request that you stop imitating your lying POS hero, stop suggesting that actual conservatives nauseated equally by Romney and Obozo favor EITHER being elected (that's your burden!), and stop lying by calling actual conservatives liars for blowing the whistle on your despicable hero.
"Man the lifeboats" shouted Captain Ahab: "Thar she blows!!!" Just moments before Moby Obama Dick turned and sank the Pequod and drowned Ahab and crew. As to results, it would have been the same if it had been another BIG white whale.
"Today we are abandoning the princilaps of the free market in order to save the market." -- G.W. Bush
If you want it in flowchart form here it is:
Obama Romney | | | | | | | | Marxist Fabian Socialist Socialist \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / IMPLEMENTS SOCIALISM
They'll say "Aw Shucks!" as they look at their feet and kick a stone.
And hey, why aren't I on that list too?
Cripplecreek is, IMO, good company to be in.
And press criminal charges: 18USC241 & 18USC242. (US Constitution guarantees republican form of government, a judgeocracy aint one.)
Somebody has to hold the line.
Indeed; and thank you.
I held my nose and voted for McCain and all I got was a marxist president and a republican candidate to the left of Bill Clinton.
Next time around we’ll be lucky if we get a GOP candidate as “moderate” as Obama.
Obamacare isn’t going to sink Romney. Romney has already triangulated out of it.
“Encourage you to donate to @TedCruz’s KnockOut Obamacare. http://ht.ly/bTBXi With today’s SCOTUS ruling, we need him in DC to repeal”
Rick Santorum is still in our corner.
It should also be noted that Romney, the grandfather of ObamaCare, promised to replace Obamacare once he repealed it. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to predict what he'd replace it with.
ABOers, please reflect seriously on the real-world consequences of a Romney landslide. You are on the verge of voting for Romney in order to vote "against" Obama, but in the end, your vote "against" Obama will still be FOR Romney's progressivism, and your vote will absolutely be perceived as your sanction and approval of it. If Romney gets a landslide, he and moderates would crow that it was proof that Americans were begging for his "progressive" philosophy, and the numbers would back them up. What you intend to vote "against" won't mean a damned thing.
Obama is held in very low regard by many who voted for him last time. Reading of the signs says many will either vote third party or skip voting altogether; his chances of a majority win are virtually nil. That is an opportunity that is a gift from God with regard to voting third party. I will be voting FOR weakening the victory of whichever pusher of government tyranny wins, Romney or Obama, and I will do that by voting for an official on-the-ballot third party candidate -- no write-in for me because I know there will be people on either side of the political aisle itching to invalidate my ballot on the slightest pretense.
My third party vote will be very far from symbolic -- it will be a tangible item that will work toward splitting the vote and forcing a plurality in the popular vote. The lower the support among voters for whichever guy wins, the more weight and strength conservatives will have in fighting his agenda, and that includes Obama, who is not an Oz with superpowers, but a mere mortal man, though ABO hysteria has frightened folks into temporarily blindness to that truth. Conservatives would have a much harder time fighting Romney's liberal agenda than they would fighting Obama's.
ABOers, wake up and start thinking less about what you intend to vote "against" and understand exactly what you are on the verge of voting FOR. A vote for Romney, no matter how you spin it, is a vote to make liberalism more powerful in both parties. Risking a landslide for that is MUCH more dangerous than risking an Obama plurality win.
Your post ... pure hysteria. *sigh*
Amen, Brother FReeper.
You've been voting GOP for 44 years, and me for 36 years ... both of us have finally awoken to Einstein's Definition of Insanity. Younger voters ... wake up.