Posted on 07/09/2012 7:43:54 PM PDT by MaryLou1
Those willing to serve their country with their lives, deserve to be looked after by their country should they survive. There’s a difference between getting a pension because you turn 65 and between getting a pension in service of your country.
End social security first and then we can talk about asset divestiture.
I have no problem with selling off land and assets of the state in order to repay the obligation. It’s far fairer than continuing the ponzi scheme.
However, are you sure you want this? You’d get out exactly what you put in, no more no less. Most folks who are already collecting have collected far in excess to what they paid. You wouldn’t get very much out since there’s no obligation to account for inflation.
Besides widespread looting, rioting, robbery and murder one of the problems is the members of Congress would find themselves without homes, families or safety.
I really doubt anarchy is the route anyone wants to take.
On the other hand, the US government owns land with resources.
Somebody forgot to pay attention to Newt Gingrich. He identified a single chunk of federal land where the anticipated royalties for oil extraction from proven reserves is well over $100 trillion.
A debtor with that kind of asset has no excuse for not paying his bills.
Thanks for your kind words, JC.
“A debtor with that kind of asset has no excuse for not paying his bills.”
Here’s the problem. Rather than reforming the system, we’re kicking the can down the road.
What’s going to happen when there’s no money out there to pay into social security? All these dangers you list are an inevitable consequence of maintaining the status quo.
We'll have several different kinds of free hydrogen fusion energy sources by then ~
They are NOT talking about every single member in the household receiving benefits.
Grandpa on SSI ~ after being run down by an illegal alien in 1985 ~ he counts, but the kids and grandkids, all of whom have jobs don't!
That's just the statistics ~ then there are people who simply do not believe in Obama Money. They know where the welfare comes from ~ and they're not inclined one way or the other to vote for any particular politician on account of their check.
I see. So you aren’t worried about the impending fiscal collapse?
The United States simply does not need to repudiate debt ~ certainly not that owed to American citizens, and probably not that owed to foreigners.
“There is no impending fiscal collapse ~ there will be a reordering and restructuring and as soon as we can get rid of Obama and his fellow Luddites, things should be much better.”
We’ve got at least 4 more years of massive overspending, and that’s assuming no more spending is piled on top of the spending that’s already there, and Obamacare gets repealed.
“The United States simply does not need to repudiate debt”
It’s at least 25 years before the US will be on sound financial footing. Depending on what damage the boomers do on their way out the door, might be even longer.
Repudiating that debt is probably not in your best interest.
As far as being fiscally sound, any country with $100 trillion in assets in one small area is not in trouble.
Now, how to make some quick cash ~ totally different issue. To do that we collect tribute from those who benefit from our defense forces.
Worked for Greece, worked for Rome, worked for the Persians, the Chinese, the ancient Koreans, everybody did it that way.
When you're on top, you're on top and THEY OWE YOU!
I'd take it in a heartbeat.
About a quarter mil.
Well played.
If they're entitled, why did you call them welfare cheats and thieves?
I gave you a cite to a USN&WR report that says 2012 unemployment rates for RNs (nationwide) is 5.5%. You say “they aren’t hiring.”
Here’s a link to the AJC for RN classified ads. About 200 ads for RNs of different types, none older than 29 days.
You may have anecdotal experience with your acquaintences, and it may be that California RNs are having a tough time. However, here in Georgia, that does not compute. There is no evidence otherwise than a better-than-job category unemployment rate.
Isn't that Metro Atlanta?
It's good to hear there are openings in Atlanta Metro ~ went through them and it looks heavy on the surgery side ~ which means you need just all sorts of certifications, not just an RN!
Nurses with technical certifications can achieve transfers and higher pay of course.
Not sure what you mean by anecdotal references ~ after you suggested someone with an RN might just wander in off the street into an RN job I presumed you knew all about the effect of technical specialties on job availability.
If not, I just gave you some hints.
We are working with some serious babysitting here while the DIL gets a new certification in surgical ICU.
Nursing is becoming incredibly specialized and matching the individual to the job is very important. You can't just take any old RN and put her into a job where turning a dial the wrong way might fry the patient to death. Ask Dick Cheney about his experience here in Fairfax. He had the "best".
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