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Paterno Won Sweeter Deal Even as Scandal Played Out
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/14/sports/ncaafootball/joe-paterno-got-richer-contract-amid-jerry-sandusky-inquiry.html?_r=1&hp ^ | 07-14-12 | JO BECKER

Posted on 07/14/2012 7:22:40 AM PDT by slumber1

In January 2011, Joe Paterno learned prosecutors were investigating his longtime assistant coach Jerry Sandusky for sexually assaulting young boys. Soon, Mr. Paterno had testified before a grand jury, and the rough outlines of what would become a giant scandal had been published in a local newspaper.

That same month, Mr. Paterno, the football coach at Penn State, began negotiating with his superiors to amend his contract, with the timing something of a surprise because the contract was not set to expire until the end of 2012, according to university documents and people with knowledge of the discussions. By August, Mr. Paterno and the university’s president, both of whom were by then embroiled in the Sandusky investigation, had reached an agreement.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coverup; football; joepa; joepaterno; molestation; paterno; pedostate; pennstate; sandusky; sourcetitlenoturl
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To: Joe 6-pack
While I doubt we'll ever know, I'm curious about the facts and circumstances of Ray Gricar's disappearance

I suspect it had nothing to do with the scandal except perhaps a burden on Gricar's conscience. But I also suspect the enormity of taking on PSU and Paterno played a role in his unwillingness to indict Sandusky in 98 when they had what amounted to a confession from him
21 posted on 07/14/2012 9:50:13 AM PDT by slumber1 (Don't taze me bro!)
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To: Cicero

Per the results of the Freeh report, Paterno should burn in hell.

22 posted on 07/14/2012 10:08:32 AM PDT by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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To: Cicero
He did report Sandusky to his bosses, who were primarily responsible for the coverup.

Bosses? Plural?

Then (as we all know) Paterno perjured himself before the Grand Jury, where he testified under oath that the only person he told about Sandusky was Athletic Director Tim Curley and again when he testified that he (Paterno) did know if any other official at Penn State found out about Sandusky.

Right? He perjured himself?

And as for the others being primarily responsible for the cover-up, have you read the Freeh report? You've been defending Paterno since before any facts were known; you continue to defend him no matter what facts are revealed.

23 posted on 07/14/2012 10:13:08 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: slumber1

Shame! This could have all been avoided. Why did Paterno not suspend Sandusky immediately, then proceed to fire him, we may never know?


24 posted on 07/14/2012 10:49:54 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: Cicero
He did report Sandusky to his bosses, who were primarily responsible for the coverup. Maybe he should then have done more.

Yes, Paterno should have done more, and he failed as a leader there. Paterno bears a great deal of responsibility for all the abuse that occurred after being told. He could have easily suspended Sandusky, then order an investigation, which would lead him to fire Sandusky. Then afterwards letting the police deal with Sandusky. What was O' Joe thinking?

Sandusky deserves to go to jail over this and to spend the rest of his life there.

25 posted on 07/14/2012 11:04:29 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: Scotswife

I gave Joe the benefit of the doubt, the Freeh Report eliminated all doubt....Joe is scum....and the football program needs to be shut down, and all wins by Penn State after 1998, when Joe knew about Sandusky should be forfeited.


26 posted on 07/14/2012 11:07:01 AM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: rawhide

“Why did Paterno not suspend Sandusky immediately, then proceed to fire him, we may never know?”

Becasue that would have probably destroyed the whole “honor with integrity” meme that JoePa was BSing about. I have seen reports that JoePa knew as early as the mid-70’s. Only in 1998 was it officially brought up. The brand was built on a lie.


27 posted on 07/14/2012 11:08:59 AM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: slumber1

Joe Paterno was a football coach, not a school administrator. He was told a tale (second hand) of a happening in a shower where the teller did nothing but tell Paterno. Paterno, in turn, passed it on to his superiors. That was his total involvement. Mike McQueery should have told the police or his father should have. Paterno did everything that should be expected of him with such hearsay.
Since McQueery did nothing with it, Paterno is the bad guy?
That doesn’t make any sense.

Seems to me that getting to Paterno’s legecy is what’s important to a bunch of ‘Yankee Haters’. The “Get the big guy!” syndrome, absolutely. Why is Jerry Sandusky’s behavior Joe Paterno’s fault? The truth is Sandusky’s behavior is Sandusky’s fault. The people who hid from it are the school administrators, not Paterno. Fact is Paterno did what he should with that McQueery hearsay.


28 posted on 07/14/2012 11:29:19 AM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: Jubal Harshaw

Good thought. PA is in a hole financially. Cutting off State Aid would be awesome. Let the proud Alumni fund the institution. I love the idea.


29 posted on 07/14/2012 11:45:02 AM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: Cicero

Ding! That is the real story... Intergenerational intimacy is all a part of the sterile selfish sexuality that Graham Spanier celebrates.


30 posted on 07/14/2012 11:52:45 AM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: castlegreyskull

Right after they kick out Indiana... Where pedophila and all of its cousins have been studied and celebrated for 50 years at the Kinsey Institute.


31 posted on 07/14/2012 11:55:24 AM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: slumber1
In my opinion, Paterno was a literal pedophile, he participated in the anal rapes of the boys, and he held what he knew over the heads of the university and the BOT's to hold on to his job.

Spanier is a Human Sexuality scholar who ascribes to Alfred Kinsey's view that men having sex with young boys was good for the boys.

www.salvomag.com/new/articles/salvo20/kinseys-love-affair-with-pedophilia.php

32 posted on 07/14/2012 11:56:59 AM PDT by Crawdad
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To: Cicero
Stop hiding behind 'anti-Catholic' nonsense.

Paterno was a disgrace, he knew about what was happening, was complicit in the coverup.

Now you guys embarrass yourselves by coming on here and trying to defend him, showing more and more that Penn St. football is more akin to a cult.

33 posted on 07/14/2012 12:27:19 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: maxwellsmart_agent
Paterno did everything that should be expected of him with such hearsay.

No, he didnt' everything expected of him and he knew about Sandusky earlier.

So now it is 'yankee haters' that are responsible?

McQueery is despised for his cowardice, but Paterno had a far great responsiblity.

It wasn't 'hearsay' McQueery WITNESSED it, look up the word 'hearsay', you clearly don't have a clue about what you are talking about or care, just putting out smoke.

34 posted on 07/14/2012 12:33:10 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: maxwellsmart_agent
Paterno did everything that should be expected of him with such hearsay.

No, he didnt' everything expected of him and he knew about Sandusky earlier.

So now it is 'yankee haters' that are responsible?

McQueery is despised for his cowardice, but Paterno had a far greater responsiblity.

It wasn't 'hearsay' McQueery WITNESSED it, look up the word 'hearsay', you clearly don't have a clue about what you are talking about or care, just putting out smoke.

35 posted on 07/14/2012 12:33:29 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Cicero
You are delusional, caught in a classic case of worshiping a false idol and refusing to see reality.

Paterno was a wretched two-faced monster more concerned with his own image than with right and wrong.

He had no character. He was no hero. Get over it.

36 posted on 07/14/2012 12:35:04 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: Tupelo
Penn state should be shut down. I disagree. That is punishing players and coaches that were as far removed from the child molestations as I am.

Nah, it ain't punishing them in a way that matters more negatively than positively at all.

Not today.

Not tomorrow.

They won't spend time playing A GAME. They might be exposed to the idea that some things are far more important than a game. For some of them, this could be the very first time in their lives that concept is forcibly presented. It's a damned good thing to learn, and in fact - it is a better lesson than anything that can be learned playing a team sport.

Better than learning teamwork.
More important than learning physical self discipline.
More important than learning to keep going when you are losing.

Its a lesson that could save their marriage, or their relationship with their children.
Certainly a lesson that can keep them from traveling the same road the university leadership took.

This is a golden opportunity to learn that the right thing is still the right thing even when it is hard.

There are people who don't want to learn that.These students are not victims. The victims were a bunch of kids that were raped and then institutionally supressed.

Seeing the right thing done, and the tangible rewards that doing the wrong thing had reaped for the university stripped away is a good thing - for the entire student body and faculty. Athletes included.

37 posted on 07/14/2012 12:52:18 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: LeonardFMason
What I don’t understand is the calls to end football at Penn State and the sentiment that Penn State be “nuked”, “burned to the ground” and all of that.

Because college head football coaches enjoy god like status in their communities and all of them should be put on notice that if you look the other way or just pay lip service to a severe problem in your program you and your program will be taken down.

Second the insiders at Penn State knew what was going on and they had the benefit to see what happens when it is handled badly (aka the catholic church) and they chose to cover it up anyway.

If Penn state does not deserved to be Nuked for this scandal then what exactly would a football program have to do to deserve to be nuked?

Penn state football needs to go away for a while and if I were a student there I would be looking for a new school whether I was a football player or not.

38 posted on 07/14/2012 1:16:03 PM PDT by stig
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To: stig

Universities should impose mandatory retirement on coaches at 65. He was 85 and dying of cancer when this last season started. He operated like a 3rd world dictator in State College. Not that it matters at all but, he was a terrible head coach, who surrounded himself with equally poor assistant coaches(Jay Paterno being the worst) who served him without question. To those who would like to see the football program shut down, it is pretty clear with every Blue Chip recruit looking at Penn State like Chernobyl University that the program will be a Big 10 doormat for years. To the football cultists that will be death by a thousand cuts.


39 posted on 07/14/2012 2:06:16 PM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: fortheDeclaration
It is hearsay! He testified at the grand jury that he only heard, not seen what was happening in the shower.

Keep in mind that Paterno was only a football coach who relayed the information given to him by McQueery to his superiors. That fulfilled his responsibility as a coach. He was not an administrator. What he was told was questionable in that Mr. McQueery did not stop it, or could not tell him who else was involved, not even today can McQueery tell him who the boy was. What else was he supposed to do? If he had gone to the police, they would have asked him who the boy was. They would have asked him where he got the information. What do you suppose Sandusky would have said? What would he have looked like? Given all that, wasn't it McQueery's responsibility? Tell me, why was it Joe Paterno's? "Let's take down the big guy' mentality!

40 posted on 07/14/2012 2:21:00 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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