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Ford's Trade-In: Truck to Use Aluminum in Place of Steel
WSJ ^ | 07/26/2012 | MIKE RAMSEY

Posted on 07/27/2012 2:33:00 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd

Edited on 07/27/2012 2:39:50 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

ALLEN PARK, Mich.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: aluminum; automakers; cafe; energy; energypolicy; ford; fordmotor; fordtrucks; greenreligion; manufacturing; physics
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To: cripplecreek

You also have the advantage of not rusting.
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Aluminum rusts , it’s just white rust instead of red..


81 posted on 07/27/2012 4:56:41 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: Nowhere Man

Stainless steel tends to work harden as it moves and crack when you try to use it on car bodies.

There was a company that built aftermarket Jeep CJ bodies out of stainless back in the ‘70’s and they always cracked around the frame /body attachment bolt holes. They were beautiful bit every one I ever saw cracked given some use.


82 posted on 07/27/2012 5:03:42 PM PDT by Clay Moore (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of a fool to the left. Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: Responsibility2nd

We have an aluminum body Pierce Manufacturing fire engine going on 23 years. It has held up just fine. A few small bubbles have developed under some of the reflective striping. Other then that no problems .


83 posted on 07/27/2012 5:08:09 PM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: nascarnation

“I’m sure a Ford pickup at Audi pricing will be a huge hit.”

Meanwhile the American cars go around and around the Nascar tracks, little or no innovation technology-wise.

Did you know Audi has won 24 hours of LeMans 11 of the last 13 years; first with gasoline, next diesel (first ever), and this year hybrid (first ever).

VW Group builds cars of all price ranges. Higher price range vehicles and racing prepare for future innovations in all lines.

Whoops. The (former big) three all but gave up the luxury market (except Cadillac).


84 posted on 07/27/2012 5:20:50 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: truth_seeker

Nascar isn’t technology.
It’s entertainment.
(Very profitable entertainment)

Mild steel is good stuff. It’s readily welded and performs consistently in crashes.

God gave us mild steel and cast iron to make vehicles for the masses.


85 posted on 07/27/2012 5:26:39 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: nascarnation
No problem! You can get your new truck financed for ten or fifteen years soon.
86 posted on 07/27/2012 5:31:08 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: DannyTN
What do you think is in aircraft.

The rear spar in the wing that the landing gear is attached to is aluminum.

Aircraft aluminum is very tough, but expensive.

But, I agree with a previous poster in that the weight loss will be a hamper to traction.

Maybe they can provide in the design attach points under the frame to add weight after you buy the truck.

Probably won't fly with the Fed's.

87 posted on 07/27/2012 5:34:05 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: Puckster
Maybe they can provide in the design attach points under the frame to add weight after you buy the truck.

Just cruise down to the local EBT/TANF/Social Sec office and pick up a few fat girls. Problem solved. And on sunny days they can be offloaded to improve fuel economy.

88 posted on 07/27/2012 5:36:59 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: UCANSEE2

I have vaporized a few pistons in my lifetime. 2 strokes and exoctic fuel mixes will do amazing things when things go wrong.

LLS


89 posted on 07/27/2012 5:41:46 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Well they run better and better as you lean them out, right up to the point where the piston crown becomes part of the combustion process.

With our modern computer controls technology we could achieve some incredible mpgs if we didn’t have to run at 14.7:1 to make the damn converter work.


90 posted on 07/27/2012 5:44:58 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Responsibility2nd
A buddy of mine was T-boned by a ditz at 50 mph a couple weeks ago. Flipped the truck -- totaled it. He walked away, she didn't.

Wonder how the lighter body would have changed the outcome.

91 posted on 07/27/2012 5:45:06 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: nascarnation

“a few fat girls”

Or, or....let’s put the lead back into the fuel...huh, huh!?


92 posted on 07/27/2012 5:46:49 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: Squantos

Sky King was the best! Penny was pretty hot too!

LLS


93 posted on 07/27/2012 5:50:20 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Loved that show....:

Stay safe !


94 posted on 07/27/2012 5:55:05 PM PDT by Squantos
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To: nascarnation
That is the truth. I had a V6 outboard (gas not alcohol) on a 19 foot carbon fiber STV Mod VP tunnel that would run 9.80’s to 10.0 in the 1/4. You break a lot of $$$ to win. The faster you go... the more it costs to go faster.

LLS

95 posted on 07/27/2012 5:56:28 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: Squantos

You too.

LLS


96 posted on 07/27/2012 5:58:23 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: LibLieSlayer

You mean sky king was really the airplane. I thought he was the pilot.


97 posted on 07/27/2012 5:59:25 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: LibLieSlayer

That’s plenty fast on pavement, and downright terrifying on water.


98 posted on 07/27/2012 6:00:39 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Responsibility2nd

As someone who works in the aluminum idustry, it has a lot of merit and some drawbacks. Aluminum is a lot tougher than most realize. Accura made an all aluminum car for years. It was expensive and not a big seller, don’t know how it fared in wrecks and such. The one big drawback to aluminum skin is that it doesn’t stretch like steel and tends to break rather than bend. A lot would depend on the alloy. There are steering and suspension components already in suv’s and such from cast aluminum that have done quite well and most owners never know it (Dodge Durango, Chevy Trailblazer to name two). It’s between plastic and aluminum for cutting down weight on vehicles, but it’s going to happen


99 posted on 07/27/2012 6:03:50 PM PDT by Figment
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To: Puckster
What do you think is in aircraft.

Clearly, aircraft generally consist of lots of Aluminum. And, there is good reason that airports never, to my knowledge, use salt on winter runways. Indeed, I will never forget renting a ratty cessna many years ago in Honolulu. When I asked the instructor what the deal was, and how old my rental was, I was surprised when told only 2 years old. That salt air is deadly to Aluminum!

100 posted on 07/27/2012 6:04:36 PM PDT by C210N ("ask not what the candidate can do for you, ask what you can do for the candidate" (Breitbart, 2012))
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