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Mall says U.S. flags on kiddie train must go
KATU ^ | 7/29/2012

Posted on 07/29/2012 5:56:19 PM PDT by hiho hiho

CLACKAMAS, Ore. - A fight over the American flag is brewing at the Clackamas Town Center.

The manager of the children's train at the mall says he's being forced to remove flags that he uses to decorate the train ride.

Why? The mall told him the flags are against policy.

Thomas Phelps said he was floored when he got a letter from mall management telling him that the flags were "unapproved visuals."

That reference didn't sit too well with Phelps, who also happens to be a military veteran.

"That is dedicated to veterans and military, police, firefighters, EMTs - all those people that daily put their lives on the line for us," Phelps said. "That's what it's dedicated to. And if you're going to call that a Christmas decoration or something, then I'm sorry, I don't want to be around you. You're not in my country."

Phelps said he would understand if it was causing a problem but he said nobody has complained - not once.

And he isn't alone in his feelings. Connie Marsden, a local grandmother, told us "It's the United States. That's our flag. We should be proud of it. Not be forced to take it off a little ride for the kids."

The mall did not allow our news camera on its property but a family who took a train ride on Sunday told us they enjoyed the ride and didn't understand why the flags were a problem.

The Clackamas Town Center sent us a written response when we asked for comment. General Manager Dennis Curtis wrote in an e-mail "we honor, appreciate and respect everything the U.S. flag represents."

Still, Phelps said mall management isn't budging and he's prepared to lose his job before he takes down the flags.

"I may be fired, I may be thrown out of the mall, but I am not taking it down," he said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
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To: hiho hiho
he got a letter from mall management telling him that the flags were "unapproved visuals."

Apparently the Mall Management must approve all “visual” displays.

I would suggest that this man poll the other vendors in the mall and question whether they had ever had a display rejected by the mall management. Had they ever receive such a letter?

I suspect that he is being treated differently.

I doubt that it would benefit him legally to show that he is being discriminated because of his flags but I bet that it would help him with the press.

21 posted on 07/29/2012 6:29:57 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: dynachrome

FYI


22 posted on 07/29/2012 6:30:21 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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To: hiho hiho

I love my country

unfortunately... this ain’t it

anyone catch the forwarding address?


23 posted on 07/29/2012 6:35:38 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Pontiac

the press??

Are you kidding?


24 posted on 07/29/2012 6:37:07 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: hiho hiho
Whatever BS arguement aside - A. The flag is not a "decoration", and B. according to the flag code, "The flag should not be draped over the hood, top, sides, or back of a vehicle, a railroad train, or a boat."

In my opinion, the flaq should go...

25 posted on 07/29/2012 6:38:30 PM PDT by stormer
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To: hiho hiho

I fed up with political correctness, anti-Americanism, communists, socialists, progressives, homos, and anything that is a hyphenated-American. It’s American with nothing else in front. Americans built this republic of ours and this diversity tolerance thing has to go.

I had friends who died for the flag. Make no laws or rules forbidding its display.


26 posted on 07/29/2012 6:38:45 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (Repeal Obamacare, the CITIZENSHIP TAX)
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To: hiho hiho

Of course.... Oregon is not part of the United States.


27 posted on 07/29/2012 6:42:26 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: onyx; hiho hiho

In part reference to the Chick-fil-A fustercluck, Mark Steyn said it well today...

‘Until more citizens of free nations are willing to say to statist hacks “Who the hell do you think you are?,”liberty will continue to bleed.’

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/312564/who-hell-do-you-think-you-are-mark-steyn


28 posted on 07/29/2012 6:44:49 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Brilliant
Of course.... Oregon is not part of the United States.

Left coast--but pretty much all coastal areas plus inland port Chicago.

29 posted on 07/29/2012 6:45:30 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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To: hiho hiho

It’s so fun watching the birth of a social media sh!tstorm! Can’t wait to watch it grow into a wonderful adult Poonami!


30 posted on 07/29/2012 6:48:53 PM PDT by rotstan
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To: stormer

Give little flags to the kids to wave while on the train. Sell them outside te mall Have people at tain stop singing God Bless America


31 posted on 07/29/2012 6:48:53 PM PDT by RightLady (Take out the trash the first Tues after the first Monday in Nov)
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To: hiho hiho

The Marxist,Progressive,Democrats are finally showing their true colors, RED hate for America and will never give up until they are run out of town on a rail covered in Tar and Feathers. Lets Roll!


32 posted on 07/29/2012 6:50:06 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: stormer

I could care less what you think. There is a long tradition of decorating locomotives with US flags in this country.


33 posted on 07/29/2012 6:52:16 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: hiho hiho
Thomas Phelps said he was floored when he got a letter from mall management telling him that the flags were "unapproved visuals."

They probably don't want the mall to look like a used car lot. To some the flag is nothing more than a sales tool.

34 posted on 07/29/2012 6:53:24 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: hiho hiho

Then throw out the train and their rails. Forget they were there. We don’t need non-American thinking. If they don’t want our flag...move somewhere else. we don’t need this kind of non-American thinking


35 posted on 07/29/2012 6:54:01 PM PDT by tillacum
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To: Salvation

Oregon ping


36 posted on 07/29/2012 7:04:29 PM PDT by goodnesswins (What has happened to America?)
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To: stormer

I agree....That is quite improper. Put a couple of flag decals on the train like I have on my car.


37 posted on 07/29/2012 7:05:39 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: mojo114
in Chicago

Thanks. That explains it. It's a Chicago/Hillary/Obama deal.

38 posted on 07/29/2012 7:06:43 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: stormer

That’s the train? You’re correct, that flag is being improperly displayed. I thought he had it on a staff or something....


39 posted on 07/29/2012 7:07:23 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty
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To: hiho hiho

Hopefully in my lifetime this sh!t is gonna come to a head and soon. These people are going to rue the day.

I am SICK AND TIRED of these no good sorry assed welfare sucking government tit no good RATS I could scream!


40 posted on 07/29/2012 7:09:50 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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