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1 posted on 08/10/2012 2:18:12 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Joe Bite-me got it partially right...
“this election will be about 3 words, Jobs, Jobs, Jobs, Jobs”


2 posted on 08/10/2012 2:21:33 PM PDT by swamprebel (Where liberty dwells, there is my country.)
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To: EveningStar

The GOP has zero intent to win the white house.


3 posted on 08/10/2012 2:21:45 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: EveningStar

I must say I am stunned to see the majority of people under age 30 being so totally ambivalent on the issue of gay marriage.


4 posted on 08/10/2012 2:23:21 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: EveningStar

Who taught these punks such nonsense? Have they never heard of Ronald Reagan?

The economy, no doubt, is paramount in this election.

Shying away from the truth that abortion is murder and holding a steadfast position that sodomy isn’t marriage is not a good idea.

Stand for what is right.


5 posted on 08/10/2012 2:23:49 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: EveningStar
I would respond, respectfully of course, to this group, yes you do want what you want, but when you start footing the bills and have a few years' experience behind you, then let's talk.

The young people in churches also demand no traditional music and certainly lots of programs that they are interested in but refuse to donate to anything, telling the rest of us they "can't afford to right now" or they "will just as soon as they get out of debt (the twelfth of never)."

These folk need to wander over to the dims for that is the group that panders to every group and demands the rest of the working country pay their bills!

What's more insulting is that these are the same folk demanding college loans be forgiven and think because they've been taught by 60's & 70's hippy socialist professors, that life should be the way they demand simply because they demand it!

6 posted on 08/10/2012 2:26:48 PM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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If the GOP further abdondons their weak opposition to abortion and gay marriage, it will be time for a third party.


7 posted on 08/10/2012 2:27:21 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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fiscal conservatism + no moral or social conscious = libertarian


8 posted on 08/10/2012 2:28:33 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: EveningStar

The suicidal GOP (and conservatives) that continue to include such social issues only lend credence to the false leftist belief they are the dominion of government.

Only when such issues are abandoned in the political arena and the individual is once again championed, conservatives and republicans.

The left thrives because it enshrines such issues into government control.

The right fails to explain such issues should not fall under anyone except the individual’s control.

Hence the hijacking of the term “pro choice”


11 posted on 08/10/2012 2:32:22 PM PDT by dk88 (Occupy=Liberalism: No solutions, no responsibility and demanding free stuff from someone else)
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If you wonder what might happen to a GOP presidential candidate who abandons social conservatives, you won’t have to wait too long to find out. In less than 100 days, Romney will be preparing to move into his new beach home.

Let’s hope that the elites in the GOP learn something this time.


20 posted on 08/10/2012 2:41:22 PM PDT by Tau Food (Tom Hoefling for President - 2012)
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“Social issues are far down the priorities list, and I think that’s the trend,” Mr. Hoagland, 27, said. “That’s where it needs to go if the Republican Party is going to be successful.” ...

Unfortunately, if things like gay marriage persist, then the nation won’t be successful, and then Republican party becomes irrelevant.


25 posted on 08/10/2012 2:46:20 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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Somebody needs to teach these young punks that if you don’t stand for something you’ll fall for anything.

We as conservatives shouldn’t hide what we stand for and if they don’t stand for what the party does they are nothing more than RINO libs who are playing at being conservatives.

In fact, they aren’t even trying to be conservatives. They are trying to be liberals running under the name Republican.

No thanks. There are enough of those in the Libertarian party. We also have enough RINOs of our own. We don’t need to water down conservative principles to appeal to those who don’t share our beliefs.


28 posted on 08/10/2012 2:54:26 PM PDT by History Repeats (Drink plenty of TEA, but avoid the Koolaid.)
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I think there is an argument that could be persuasive on the social front. Everybody talks about rights. Why isn’t the GOP talking about the fact that making people PAY for others’ so-called ‘rights’ is a deprivation of the payer’s own rights?

Under current law (bad law, but...), abortion is legal. But forcing someone who is morally and/or religiously opposed to pay for some other woman’s “choice” is deprivation of rights, pure and simple.

JMO.


32 posted on 08/10/2012 3:05:32 PM PDT by MortMan (Laughter is the best medicine, especially when ridiculing your enemies.)
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This guys view is the EXACT OPPOSITE of the Founding Fathers’ view. The evil Republican Party Heads-—are as evil as Zero and are trying to destroy the VERY PRINCIPLES of America.

VIRTUE is the most important element in a free Republic. You can not have freedom if there is no public VIRTUE!!!!! That was stated since PLATO-—and repeated by all WISE philosophers, including our Founding Fathers!!!!!!!!!!!!

Which means the culture HAS TO PROMOTE public VIRTUE. That is what JUSTICE is—a Virtue-—that means VICE-—like killing babies-—promoting Sodomy-—A VICE-—and UNJUST—which is UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

Since the Cultural Marxists have control of MSM and the schools they are corrupting the youth (DESTROYING VIRTUE) with lies and seductions into Satanic lives of drug and sex-—which will destroy all cohesive societies— and the possibility of Virtue.

Cultural Marxists designed Sex Ed in schools to destroy Virtue. They knew the secret of successful Republics-—like all WISE people.


33 posted on 08/10/2012 3:15:02 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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We’ll see how that works out after the remainder of the default process. Social pathologies are supported by big government and other waste.


34 posted on 08/10/2012 3:15:28 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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“Social issues are far down the priorities list, and I think that’s the trend,” Mr. Hoagland, 27

Funny, many polls have shown the youngest generation of voters to be the most pro-life.

This is merely more propaganda from the media and Republican establishment.

Romney can lose the election and Republican party can collapse before it gets away with abandoning social issues.

35 posted on 08/10/2012 3:16:56 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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North Carolina just recently overwhelmingly voted down same sex marriage. A lot of those votes were from Christians who happen to be black. To say that is not an issue is simply the ignorance of youth. Among voters in NC it is indeed an issue and one that redounds in Romneys favor.


38 posted on 08/10/2012 3:20:44 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (.)
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This is correct stragety staying off the social issue TRAP and focusing on this President's record and the economy. Anything else will only get the opposition fired up on social issues. The GOP has allowed the DNC to look rather pathetic on social issues and thus they are losing enthusiasm.

Not that social issues are not important as they are the most important thing next to taking back the presidency. Mitt can do the social issue boggy once in office.

45 posted on 08/10/2012 3:34:10 PM PDT by Jumper
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What's amazing to me about these "fiscal issues only" types is how utterly tone deaf they are to what is actually going on around them, rather than what "exists" within the insular bubble in which they confine themselves. We just witnessed a massive outpouring of support and interest in opposing gay marriage at a grassroots level with CFA appreciation day, and we see the current floundering of the Romney campaign as it confines itself specifically to this fiscal only message. Yet, these folks can't seem to put 2 and 2 together.

THIS, as much as anything else, is going to destroy the GOP.

51 posted on 08/10/2012 3:49:41 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Science puts you on the moon, atheism puts you in the gulag)
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we don’t lie about the social issues. They are just a part of being conservative.

We win the election and then drag the rest up to our level on these issues.


53 posted on 08/10/2012 3:53:10 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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Most young people haven't been out of liberal indoctrination centers very long ( schools, colleges etc) so, what can you expect?

If liberal children were educated ONLY by conservatives there wouldn't be many liberal young people either. Besides, they don't vote. Lots of us were liberals when we were young - then we grew up... and now were fine... what's to worry about?(Have you looked at the population demographics? The country's getting older and wiser...

54 posted on 08/10/2012 3:53:32 PM PDT by GOPJ (Freeper Neveronmywatch's convinced - you put a compass in the hands of a liberal it'll point south.)
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