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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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To: Tamzee

She’s tricksy that way.


5,161 posted on 08/18/2012 12:35:41 PM PDT by BlueDragon (going to change my name to "Nobody" then run for elective office)
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To: greyfoxx39

It isn’t the only time she has used that distasteful title on this thread either. She is a repeat offender.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2917406/posts?page=4718#4718

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2917406/posts?page=4706#4706

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2917406/posts?page=4684#4684

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2917406/posts?page=4660#4660

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2917406/posts?page=3557#3557

I wonder if she is not the one with identity issues. She sure likes the phrase!


5,163 posted on 08/18/2012 12:42:03 PM PDT by colorcountry (The gospel will transform our politics, not vice versa (Romans 12:1,2))
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To: sf4dubya

I never did associate anti-mormonism with conservative principals. It’s a straw man YOU built. We DO have a religion forum on this site. I use it.

Now tell me why Anti-Christianity is a conservative principal.


5,164 posted on 08/18/2012 12:46:40 PM PDT by colorcountry (The gospel will transform our politics, not vice versa (Romans 12:1,2))
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To: Tamzee

Tamzee. The only thing I am accusing you of is defending Mormonism on this thread. I believe that is true isn’t it? We have seen some Mormon defenders here at FR they tend to come and go....mostly go, but a few return to disrupt.

I was a Mormon, I am now a Christian. I post about that, OFTEN. When someone new shows up, it peaks my interest, and so I check their posting history. I checked yours and noted the absence. When I did that, it meant relatively little to me. But as I was checking posting histories of others here, I noticed a pattern.

A pattern in itself still means nothing. But it is a pattern none the less. You are a fine Freeper from everything I can tell. I’m not accusing you of anything except fitting a particular pattern.

Likewise, my posts have also been inspected and it was pointed out that I post about Mormonism a lot....in fact almost exclusively. That is true. I don’t try to deny it. In fact, many will think that I am a troll.

If you follow my posting history back past 2007 you will find that I almost never posted about Mormonism. It was the Mormons who were posting here, trying to convert Christians to Mormonism that made my input relevant. But you see, I don’t really care if you know that, or care if you research it. If you were to ask me about it, I would be upfront and truthful.

I am sorry if you feel offended that I noticed your prolonged absence from FR.


5,165 posted on 08/18/2012 12:57:40 PM PDT by colorcountry (The gospel will transform our politics, not vice versa (Romans 12:1,2))
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To: Kevmo

Good afternoon,

In this page alone, many Scripture verses posted, you don’t
have a problem with them, where is your protest?


5,166 posted on 08/18/2012 1:07:04 PM PDT by stpio
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To: John W

Don’t see why not as long as you are a conservative.

FR is a pro-God (the one true Judeo-Christian God), pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-small government, pro-defense, pro-constitution, pro-liberty site.


5,167 posted on 08/18/2012 1:08:24 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: sf4dubya

So tell us seer, why is it wrong to expose Mormonism for the blasphemy that it is?


5,169 posted on 08/18/2012 1:13:26 PM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: Jim Robinson
FR is a pro-God (the one true Judeo-Christian God)

Well, right there's the key for me. A strong conservative Christian candidate or a strong conservative Jewish candidate and I'd vote for him/her in a heart beat.....Romney is not Jewish, Christian or conservative.

5,170 posted on 08/18/2012 1:14:15 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (If you fear Obama, you'll vote for Romney. If you fear God, you won't.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Young lady you are having way too much fun with the anti-Christian RomneyyBot...


5,171 posted on 08/18/2012 1:14:42 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: sf4dubya

“Almost one anti-Mormonism article per day in the past month alone.”


Only someone with liberal tendencies would find this at all relevant in a discussion on “truth” issues. It’s also strange to see you accusing people of being “Christian identity” promoters. A disgusting accusation. Over the past few days, I have seen more than just one disgusting anti-Christian accusation being made against posters on FR. Don’t be part of the disease.


5,172 posted on 08/18/2012 1:20:33 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: sf4dubya

“Why don’t YOU be honest and say you want that JUDEO prefix dropped? You only want Jews here that you can freely convert. You have no respect for Judaism, or freedom of religion.”


Apparently you’re not capable of seeing someone debate or discuss religion in a way that disagrees with you without screaming NAZI. Time to take a deep breath, step back, and get some perspective.


5,173 posted on 08/18/2012 1:22:51 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: sf4dubya

I will re-post what I posted:
In 2006, Heller told the Las Vegas Review-Journal “I’m a Mormon and I teach Sunday school every week, but I do back a woman’s right to choose abortion.
NOT a conservative position.
Oh, yea and HE makes his Mormonism an issue, so we should be able to talk about it.


Are able to grasp that Heller has made his Mormonism an issue?
Are you able to grasp that Heller said he supports a woman’s right to choose?
Are you able to grasp that pro-choice is not conservative?

So we are left with you think pro-choice is conservative and that when a candidate makes his religion as issue we should ignore that issue or maybe both of those.

I think the real question has become are you who you say you are? My bet would be no you are not based on your posts.
In fact, I would say you are actually a Mormon.


5,174 posted on 08/18/2012 1:24:32 PM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: sf4dubya

So social conservatism is out then...

Must have missed that memo...


5,175 posted on 08/18/2012 1:25:16 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: sf4dubya

“But when you make it about Romney’s RELIGION in the BREAKING NEWS SECTION of the highest traffic conservative website completely unchecked and not moderated, you just labeled ALL of us conservative Freepers as bigots to the outside world.”


Mormonism is certainly worthy of attack, and I encourage it greatly for the sake of those who are trapped in it. Free Republic has served me well as a fantastic resource when battling/converting Mormons. It is a religious cult.

The great problem here is that you are not interested in “truth,” but only in appearances. Therefore, it makes no difference to you if someone is a Mormon or a Muslim or Jewish or a scientologist or a Catholic or a Protestant. However, for a Christian, we are specifically commanded by God to preach the truth “to all nations,” and this “truth,” naturally, causes strife. But if you are a person who admires the search and battle for truth, what does it matter what personal feelings are inflamed in a discussion of the facts? Especially on a internet FORUM, which by definition is a place to talk? And can you tell me about any Fact in this world that can change based on the personal feelings of others?


5,178 posted on 08/18/2012 1:31:24 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: sf4dubya; greyfoxx39; colorcountry

I can’t answer for them (greyfoxx39, colorcountry) but for me absolutely not, I am secure in my Salvation and I want all to be Saved and dwell in the Glory of God for eternity.

Mormonism is a path away from God Almighty, not towards His Salvation.


5,179 posted on 08/18/2012 1:33:27 PM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: Kevmo

That is BS and you should know it. You guys are so darned busy judging Romney that it blinds you from reason.


5,180 posted on 08/18/2012 1:35:48 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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