Posted on 08/14/2012 10:39:56 AM PDT by klpt
Vessels from the Chinese fleet anchored at the Haifa port in northern Israel today, (Monday, August 13). The vessels and Chinese crewmen arrived in Israel to visit the Israeli Navy and were welcomed by Haifa base commander, Brig. Gen. Eli Sharvit. The Vessels from the Chinese fleet, led by deputy commander of the northern Chinese fleet RADM. Yang Jun-fei, anchored in Israel to honor 20 years of cooperation between the IDF and the Chinese Army. During their stay in Israel they will visit the IDF Naval Officers' Academy, lay a wreath at the Yad Vashem memorial site in memory of Holocaust victims, and visit different Israeli tourist attractions.
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I still remember those spies such as Jonathan Pollard who sold us out.
There are many Americans who believe we should borrow even more from China so we can give more to Israel, when Americans are being shafted. I’m not one. I don’t care one iota about Ireland, Italy, Vatican, Germany (which is my homeland) OR Israel. They can all figure out how to survive without stiffing Americans.
I only care about a stronger more prosperous USA for Americans. I figure if an American can’t say that, they need to move elsewhere.
There are many Americans who believe we should borrow even more from China so we can give more to Israel, when Americans are being shafted.
3 Billion dollards is a rounding error for the Federal government. We give more the Arabs. We should not be giving to anyone.
I only care about a stronger more prosperous USA for Americans. I figure if an American can’t say that, they need to move elsewhere.
I wasn't aware that patriotism meant hating the rest of the world.
If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me.
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Believe it or not, there are kosher Chinese restaurants in Israel.
Only places open on 12/25.
“There can be only one motive - China intends to challenge the USA’s global influence. Without Israel we are without a reliable ally in the middle east.”
Correct. And China correctly reads that the USA (under Obama) has abandoned Israel.
Further, Israel and India are growing very close, which scares the s—t out of China. An India with Israeli-designed weapons would easily counter-balance China.
You’re right.
Oslo harbor 1940?
“Thanks for your service, now stop sputtering BULLSHIT. NO ONE ha ever said America should borrow more from China to give to Israel.”
BS? Where does the money come from that we send as foreign aid to Israel and others if not from taxpayers, or borrowed from China? Yeah the Fed Reserve prints it and charges us interest too.
It doesn’t make me warm and fuzzy when I see Israel and China schmoozing, does it you? We lost much technology to China via Israel exports when US companies were banned from exporting. Google: Israel China US technology
We USA taxpayers and patriots have an obligation and a right to have an opinion where our money and debt is going. If I had my druthers not one dime would be going to Israel, or to any OTHER country until we had the USA back in the black. It is time to end these giveaways. Israel debt per person is $12K and the USA is $50K. It is absurd that we transfer US wealth to other countries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt
No BS.
Just saying.
We give away too much money. Period.
“There can be only one motive - China intends to challenge the USA’s global influence. Without Israel we are without a reliable ally in the middle east.”
We should get out of the Middle East entirely. The turmoil there has made it a septic tank for US lives and dollars for decades, and it has gained us nothing. Let the people that live there decide how they wish to live and interact.
We are energy independent now.
Sorry you feel that a claim of lies and slander is in order.
Foreign aid commitments from saddled Americans by bribed politicians has been my pet peeve for many years, so please tolerate my intolerance of this transfer of our wealth using the term “foreign aid”.
I equate foreign aid to the pro-sports owners that get free multi-billion dollar taxpayer built stadiums from their political cronies (that they bribe) so they can pay their celebrity workers 100 million dollar contracts, while the rest of us subsidize this transfer of wealth. Corruption and cronyism is always the game.
As a result of foreign aid every American faces higher taxes and we have less money here for what we need, even if it wasn’t borrowed from China (but it is). We have USA priorities be it roads, vets or whatever. Each American is on the hook for 50K to cover our own debt. When I see our debt building because politicians on the take give it away to other countries, we the American people are undoubtedly getting shafted.
Not one dime should leave the USA until our vet’s problems are solved, etc and the USA is back in the black. Rant about Jew hating BS all you want, but it isn’t going to change why the USA should be keeping our billions at home so as to rebuild the USA.
There something I find outrageous about sleazebag politicians giving my tax money away to other countries at the behest of lobbyists who promise they support their and reelection by promises on giving away my money that bothers me. I don’t care what country they represent, I want them out of my pockets. To repeat, I want them out of MY POCKETS now, and that is my right as a taxpayer without being being ridiculed as a racist by those on the dole.
Some like to say “these billions are only a rounding error”. For those politicians spending other people’s money it might be a rounding error, but for me every dime, let alone every billion counts. I want my money to stay right here reinvested in the USA. You want yours to go elsewhere then donate it directly, but from my taxes and through the USA Treasury?
A government that forcibly transfers my money elsewhere is transferring my wealth. It is our money and it needs to stay here otherwise it is a forced transfer of our wealth (by crooked politicians on the take) to other countries. Makes no difference on the country....if it is other countries and it needs to end.
Sorry if this overly wordy post offends your priorities.
Israel will do what it has to do to avoid the “springy” genocide that Soros, Bam and Hitlerly have established via the Muslim Brotherhood.
But, I don’t trust China.
You are correct. I made a faux pas. There are not “many” Americans who believe this, but a relative few, but they are in positions like big campaign donors and lobbyists who believe we should give more, not less to Israel and they don’t care where it comes from.
Personally I believe we should give absolutely nothing in foreign aid to ANY country including Israel. Those who want their pet country to on the dole to Americans should give what they can afford out of their own bank account, and not out of the US Treasury.
We need to take care of the USA first and if we have anything left then worry about others. But with $15T in debt it is doubtful that we can justify bailing out others, better off than the USA in my lifetime.
BTW please either discuss this rationally, or don’t discuss it at all, because I don’t have the time or inclination to read irrational and absurd claims and screaming. Take care.
I don’t want even one dime of my tax dollars going offshore. If the hacks in Congress don’t have the guts to say that, I will.
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