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FR, the pro-God "purist" site that RINOs love to hate
Aug 14, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/14/2012 1:53:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Well, folks, it happens every four years or so. The presidential election cycle really brings out the RINOS. I have to state and restate FR's positions more and more frequently, because the true blue RINO types simply cannot stand that a conservative site will not support a gun grabbing, abortionist, homosexualist, big government statist.

Last cycle it was Rudy McRomney. Boy, did we ever catch hell for not supporting the big RINOs of the day. Hundreds of true blue RINO supporters fled grassroots conservative FR in disgust when they couldn't get their way and called us every name in the book on the way out, especially, the Rudy cabal.

Where did it get them? The abortionist/homosexualist Rudy didn't get the nomination. We on FR finally decided to support McCain after he was the last RINO standing and he selected Palin as his running mate, but that will not happen this time. And McCain proved not up to the task anyway. He was far too undependable to make it as a conservative, but he was at least pro-life and pro-family and a war hero and that's why I finally relented and gave my reluctant no other choice endorsement.

But Myth Romney is without a doubt the most leftist, flip-flopping, lying, two-faced politician ever to be nominated by the Republicans. We have the most leftist Democrat ever sitting in the White House which ANY Republican should be able to defeat in a Reaganesque landslide, but in their infinite RINO wisdom, the GOPe pushes the most leftist Republican ever.

Why, oh, why would the GOPe risk it all by pushing for and giving the nomination to a man with Romney's abortionist, homosexualist, gun grabbing, big government statist Keynesian record? Do they have a death wish or are they simply trying to move the goal posts even further to the left? Romney is the grandpappy of ObamaCare for crying out loud. He made ObamaCare possible. ObamaCare gave birth to the grassroots tea party movement. The GOPe has done nothing but torpedo the tea party conservatives when they should have embraced us. Sarah Palin was the best thing to happen for the Republicans party since Reagan and the tea party the best thing in a century. Why would they try to kill us off?

We can take a clue from the Rudy McRomney cabal that left FR last time. They exclaimed on the way out that, "The conservatives have held their boot to the GOP's neck for far too long. Never again will guns, abortion, and the gay agenda be important issues for Republicans."

And now the abortionist/homosexualist/shamnesty Rudy McRomney cabal and the anti Palin RINO crowd have teamed up to come after FR again. They couldn't hack it with their wideawakes wankers for Rudy site or their trueblue RINOs for Romney site, so they are now posting their current anti-FR screeds on facebook and on any blog site they possibly can.

Hell hath no fury like a RINO scorned.

One of the RINO's we're talking about is our old friend Luis Gonzalez. He was a big Rudy pusher and would relentlessly trash any conservative who objected. We eventually had to invite him to leave FR and go with the wankers for Rudy. But it turns out he had a sleeper account on FR called "Lancelot Jones."

He recently registered a mole account on FR called "The Duke of Pearls" where he attempted to post the anti-FR screed pasted below. I pulled it and banned his account(s), but it is the one he's now plastering all over the net aided and abetted by his pal and anti-Palin RINO troll, EveningStar.

By the way, it's telling that Gonzalez in his Lancelot Jones mole persona posted the following quips to FR just a couple of days ago:

"If you can't rely on something at the precise moment that you need it the most, because that thing that you need to rely on is only reliable when the circumstances suit it, then get rid of it."

"If the GOP realizes that "purists" will only supprt the GOP when the Party's candidates meet their test, then it may be best to not count on them at all."

"The lesson that the GOP will probably learn from your scenario, is that it needs to jettison purists once and for all."

So, I guess my pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-small government, pro-gun, pro-liberty constitutional stance makes me a "purist" who must be hated and persecuted and run off the net even though my positions on these causes are exactly the same as the official Republican party platform. Very strange.

Here's Gonzalez' latest anti-FR screed that he's trying to make go viral:

Once, a long time ago, if you were an individual seeking reasonable and intelligent political discourse in the Internet, from a right-wing perspective, there were few places as prominent and respected as Jim Robinson’s freerepublic.com. The site counted among its members such luminaries as Tony Snow, Barbara Olsen, and Andrew Breitbar; even Robert Bork was rumored to post in FR.

The site’s users, known as FReepers, were considerable in number, dedicated, and passionate, and Jim Robinson’s conservative brigades were able to launch either spontaneous roadside rallies, or organized nation-wide protests from Texas, to Florida, to Georgia, to Washington DC itself.

Those were the Golden Days of Free Republic, but the site shines no longer. Mr. Robinson fails to realize that it was individual members of his forum that brought gravitas to the forum, and not the other way around. To be fair, Robinson created what could very well be the best softweare of its kind, but it was the massive interchange of ideas between members, all driven by the e-wave of the late 20th Century, and the animosity toward the Clinton administration that brought the forum into the spotlight.

Alas, Mr. Robinson convinced himself that the message was the medium, when it was the messengers that raised the medium to glory.

Internet blogs are buzzing with reports of a massive crack up in FR, with anti-Romney sentiment standing toe-to-toe with open anti-Mormon bias, FReepers are abandoning Jim Robinson’s burning ship in droves, populating sites like www.gopbriefingroom.com to discuss the chaotic status of Free Republic.

In facebook, exiled FReepers stand amazed at the realization that Free Republic and Daily KOS, bitter Internet blog political ideology enemies, are actually supporting the same candidate for the Presidency this cycle, as FReepers openly support the idea if an Obama win, as such a victory will “teach the GOP a lesson”.

This post from FReeper “Leep”

"Crash and burn America. Hopefully, we can rebuild in 10 or 20 or 50 years…?" The signs are visible to even the naked eye.

Check this statement by the site’s founder, Jim Robinson, just a few nights ago:

“Lastly, we’re having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon “bigot” on FR.” In today’s Free Republic, no one will be critical of anti-Mormon statements. Jim Robinson once again:

“This website considers the Mormon religion as false doctrine. Period.” It’s nearly impossible to cross the line on criticism of Mitt Romney’s Mormonism at a site where the proprietor dismisses the entire religion as a “false doctrine”.

Robinson, in his refusal to support the GOP ticket seems to understand that he has become a minority within a minority, within a diminishing number of supporters, as he says:

"I doubt there are 10% of the FReepers in agreement with me on this." Ten percent of a rapidly diminishing number of posting members could spell financial troubles for Robinson, as some of the site’s most steadfast financial supporters quietly melt into the night.

Then again, even as Free Republic fades into irrelevance, Robinson’s legacy lives on in an unintended cottage industry of forums offering refuge to FReepers wishing to distance themselves from Robinson.

As one of the members of The Briefing Room quipped recently:

"The FR meltdown is good for business, people are looking for a sanctuary, and a place where sanity still reigns. Our membership rolls are increasing hourly, and they all come to ask the same question…”what in the world happened to Free Republic?”

Sad thing, that what was once such a great notion will crumble and fall under the weight of such a negative and destructive actions, and that in the end, the great things accomplished by the many, will be dragged down into the mud by the few.



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To: Sola Veritas
He won’t last beyong one term, and he will so damage the brand of “conservatism” that the democrats will completely rule after him.

I simply don't believe Obama and his chief harpy Val will EVER give up their power. If there even IS an election, the votes are being counted by Soros and if Mitt were to win, the new-improved John Roberts court would invalidate the win.

That said, Obama will damage the mormon brand for decades to come.

61 posted on 08/14/2012 2:57:24 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tell the 52,000 mormon missionaries to stop going worldwide proclaiming Christianity to be false.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Last time we talked, Luis, over fried alligator, you demonstrated your deeply held views that Bush and Cheney failed by not marching Cheney’s gun accident on the front page of the WaPo. You had no understanding of the rights of privacy, and you had no patience for those who did.

I am sorry you felt the need to take anti-freeping to a whole new level.


62 posted on 08/14/2012 2:59:59 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Good God, not another chorus of "FR has been going downhill since..." Haven't we received a mortal wound every four years for the past 12? You'd figure we'd be bled out by now but it's funny, I keep logging in and the fight's still raging. Guess I'm not quite ready to be led around by a Beltway nose ring just yet.

A lot of people date FR's decline and fall from the day that Ash was banned, but I think the rot set in much earlier than that. Toiletman, Jim. We never should have let Toiletman get away.

63 posted on 08/14/2012 3:01:14 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Jim Robinson; All
I love FR. Have since RaTHergate when I began lurking. And I think Mitt is a gun-grabbing statist.

But I will check Romney/Ryan in the voting booth.

As my sig below says, my game is disruption. We must stand athwart the highway to hell this country's on, yelling STOP!

I've got nobody to vote FOR, but I must use lethal force --my vote-- in self-defense against this usurper of the Republic and his cronies.

If we can dump the Obama regime, we can start working on a new problem: containment of Romney. But first, Obama must go.

64 posted on 08/14/2012 3:04:03 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (My game is disruption. I will use lethal force --my vote-- in self-defense against Obama.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Well, if it isn’t pure, then it is corrupt. Somewhere, someplace, there has to be purity, if nothing more to remind the corrupt about the way things ought to be. That place is here, I think. God bless Free Republic!


65 posted on 08/14/2012 3:05:13 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: Track9
Just as long as we keep voting for their candidates, that’s where we’re going.

Yup. Thank you sir, may I have another.
66 posted on 08/14/2012 3:06:50 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: jazusamo
I doubt any Conservatives have left Free Republic but a lot of RINOs and libs have.

I have a problem with the whole thread that uses the nomenclature RINO. What gives conservatives either the right or the idea that they get to define what the Republican party is?

I'll absolutely agree that what conservatives (or even better Constitutionalists) believe is what the Republican party *should* be, but it is what it is. If the nominating process gives us a McCain or a Romney, or big-government candidates like both of the Bushes, then who is the RINO? The established party members who get their way cycle after cycle, or the true conservatives who abandon the Republican party when they (once again) nominate someone for whom the Constitution is a distraction, not a core value?

Instead, call them CINOs - Conservatives in name only. The Republican party is not by any means conservative, let alone Constitutionalist.

And yet . . .

The real question we must ask ourselves is whether it would be better to have Romney in the White House, or Obama. That's the choice. It's not Romney or a true conservative. The party apparatus has spoken, and once again a true conservative will not be a viable option - meaning, someone who has a real chance of winning because they are one of the major party candidates (not because of their philosophy). It's Romney or Obama. If you say, "Not Romney" then you're saying, "Yes, Obama." For all his warts, the question is not: Is Romney perfect? The question is: Is Obama worse?

I believe a true Constitutionalist - who can demonstrate that they are - *can* be elected. But it won't be until the Republican party is rebuilt. Because right now, the Republican party is CINO.
67 posted on 08/14/2012 3:08:04 PM PDT by Phlyer
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To: Skulllspitter

That is kind of my take too. I don’t like it one bit but figure we might have a better chance influencing a Romney/Ryan executive than an Obama one for sure. Here is my plan....much like last time. I could not stand McCain so I just posted anti-Obama stuff and pro Palin stuff.

All is not lost though as we proved our power in 2010. We actually did get the house to go more conservative...now we need to do the same to the senate.


68 posted on 08/14/2012 3:08:29 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Good thoughts on Romney. I’m supporting Gary Johnson.


69 posted on 08/14/2012 3:10:39 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: Graybeard58

You are one sick,twisted individual!


70 posted on 08/14/2012 3:13:23 PM PDT by Sherri
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To: Jim Robinson

“Mr. Robinson fails to realize that it was individual members of his forum that brought gravitas to the forum, and not the other way around. “

You didn’t build that.

Sound familiar...


71 posted on 08/14/2012 3:15:04 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: Jim Robinson

I will vote for Romney in order to defeat Obama. But after he sets foot in the WH, I will not kiss his behind for the next 4 years. He will not get an easy pass.


72 posted on 08/14/2012 3:19:04 PM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: APatientMan

By the way, I’ve always credited the FReepers for any successes we’ve had on FR. FReepers are the greatest!!

I didn’t build FR. The loyal FReepers did!!

All I’ve done is try to nudge it along the right path.


73 posted on 08/14/2012 3:22:33 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Well said Jim ;^)




74 posted on 08/14/2012 3:23:51 PM PDT by Bikkuri (Choose, a communist, socialist, or Patriot)
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To: ari-freedom

Atta boy. Make him eat peas.


75 posted on 08/14/2012 3:24:13 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Like I said the other day “Romney will have to earn his stripes with me for 2016”.

I’m writing in Sarah or Newt......just because I can...


76 posted on 08/14/2012 3:24:54 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Oldexpat

Hoping y’all can help Ryan shine and keep Romney in the closet, but it’ll probably be the other way around. Only it won’t be shine we’re seeing with Romney at the helm.

His record is clear:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OQoBxZZPqU&feature=player_embedded


77 posted on 08/14/2012 3:28:23 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jewbacca

>>His “screed” makes me like FreeRepublic more.<<

My thoughts exactly. Typically, if a liberal/RINO (who are we kidding; they’re the same thing) hates something then I frequently check to see if it is something I’ll probably like.


78 posted on 08/14/2012 3:28:43 PM PDT by MeganC (The Cinemark theatre in Aurora, CO is a 'Gun Free Zone'. Spread the word.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Words of a real Leader.

You take the blame. You get the credit. IMHO.


79 posted on 08/14/2012 3:29:11 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: Jim Robinson

GREAT thread, Jim! Thanks!

These are complex times, and many hot buttons are quickly exposed. Thus, it is refreshing that you have taken the time to be upfront with this discussion thread, and thus allow us a framework of discussion that we, together, can come back to over the rest of this election campaign and re-think others viewpoints, as well as our own. We need to do this to better prepare ourselves for the 2014 US House Election Campaign: The Money Men/Women Campaign!

I am pretty much of a one issue FReeper this election as my tagline suggests. I see the insanity to asking the Chinese to loan us 40 cents on the dollar so that our pro-debt politicians in “both” political parties can continue to pay out 40 cents on the dollar and thus buy votes with bankrupt “entitlement” promises charged to those who cannot vote HELL NO: our Grandchildren’s Descendants.

Whereas, the September, 2008 Federal Housing Bankruptcy, (FHA, Freddie, and Fannie), destroyed about 30 % of the net worth of the Generation that Fought in WW2, the US Federal Government has increased, AND refuses to abolish the FHA, Freddie and Fannie, let alone even admit that they were the problem.


Somehow we have lost the “Constitutional Checks and Balances” in Congress and the NINE SUPREMES, so our Government is hopelessly on the wrong track with a Communist Foreigner being cheered on by the White-Guilt Liberal masses.

To me the most distressing thing is that The Republican Party shows no discernible signs that they understand what their responsibilities are, with the possible exception of Rep. Issa’s very long delayed filing of his lawsuit against AG Holder.

We are thus faced with the dual dilemma of of replacing a Communist with a Socialist, who was endorsed by a Party that has been proven to be worthless in providing checks and balances.

For example, from my earlier reply to another FReep thread: “It is interesting to notice that whatever needs to be done to “Get America Back On the Right Track” is exactly what the Democrats and the Liberal Agenda Media accuse the Republicans of trying to destroy.

Their attacks are usually successful, and quickly put the RINOs on small-ball defense for the rest of the election campaign.

Being good RINOs, the trembling Republicans usually say: “Ohhhhh, no! Not us! We will save whatever YOU say that we should! You Democrats know best! You will ALWAYS have our Bipartisan Support to keep on being the cave-in, pro-debt wimps that we have always been.”

This illustrates pretty well the frustration That I have with Romney and Ryan trying to “save” the very things that are causing the US Federal Government to go belly up every day at 1:48 PM because they have run out of OUR tax money!

I’ll get off my soap box, as I literally have other fish to fry.


80 posted on 08/14/2012 3:33:10 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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