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Cities with the worst car theft rates
Insurance.Com ^ | 3 August 2012 | Mark C. Smith

Posted on 08/14/2012 4:15:21 PM PDT by Vigilanteman

The odds of having your car stolen are higher in these 10 metropolitan areas. But you can take steps to protect your ride, and they might even earn an insurance discount.

The bad news for California drivers? Your state had the greatest number of hot spots in the country for auto thefts in 2011, according to a National Insurance Crime Bureau report released recently.

(Excerpt) Read more at money.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; US: California; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: cartheft; illegalaliens; leftcoast
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To: Diplomat
Well, yes, and that's partly my point. It is more about the percent of illegal aliens in the population than about how urbanized an area may be. As the crime statistics poster pointed out, Los Angeles is actually lower in many major crime statistics (save auto thefts) than cities like Dallas, Philadelphia and even Pittsburgh.

I have a sneaking suspicion that it may be at least partly due more to a dependence on the automobile and the famous LA traffic gridlock which makes a quick getaway after the crime more chancey.

41 posted on 08/15/2012 7:42:59 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: dragnet2

Look at your numbers. Like the man said, there are lies, damned lies and statistics. Violent crime in Irving is about 1/2 of L.A.

Burglary and Theft are the big deltas. I am in North Irving so we don’t have numbers per se. It is like lumping Woodland Hills, Studio City and Encino in with South Central L.A. and Boyle Heights — yeah, it is all Los Angeles but the crime profiles from the areas are, let us say, a bit different.

I took my morning walk along the riverwalk today — people leave furniture, kids toys. BBQs, etc. unsecured and unattended on their decks and patios. It’s how we roll in North Dallas.

And if my fellow Irvingers (Irvingites? Irvinquaos?) do not avail themselves of the Texas CCW laws, there is not much I can do. But if someone wants to rip me off the cost to me is 15 cents worth of lead. As a Castle Law state, Texas is cool with that. In L.A. you can only stand there and watch them take your stuff.


42 posted on 08/15/2012 8:50:40 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (obozo could bring back literal slavery with chains and still he will get 85+% of the black vote)
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To: freedumb2003
you are just wrong. L.A. and Irving are apx. the same.

Wow...You seem a bit slow...That was posted because you made the above comment....lol...Seems you haven't a clue.

And another reason why the comparisons were with *major* cities.

Dallas crime makes LA appear like the shinning city on the hill, and why you were told you live right on top of a major crime zone, which you attempted to deny.

LOL!

43 posted on 08/15/2012 9:31:04 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion or tools of deceit)
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To: freedumb2003
Like the man said, there are lies, damned lies and statistics.

This begs the question, are you denying the stats regarding Irving?

Take your time...LOL!

44 posted on 08/15/2012 9:50:42 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion or tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

>>This begs the question, are you denying the stats regarding Irving?

Take your time...LOL!<<

Since the question does not contain its own answer, it “begs” nothing. It may RAISE a question but that is not what you said. Being a kind and generous soul, I will assume you meant the latter and continue the discussion accordingly.

For the sake of argument, I assume we are looking at the statistic you posted differently. Irving is on the left, L.A. on the right — yes? If so, you probably need to look at your posts vis a vis the numbers in your posts.

I also notice you continue to avoid my points on CCW and taxes. I am PERSONALLY much safer, give that I am armed and can defend myself.

As I said: “lies, damned lies and statistics.”

As far as the timing of my response — I work for a living. I currently can spend a few minutes here and there to check on FR and similar sites. But it is not a continual status.


45 posted on 08/15/2012 10:07:03 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (obozo could bring back literal slavery with chains and still he will get 85+% of the black vote)
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To: freedumb2003
Are you denying the stats regarding Irving?

Since the question does not contain its own answer, it “begs” nothing.

HUH??

This is not a complex question, and this question is a question for you to answer! In other words, the question does not come with it's own answer...(wow)

(This is going to be fun)

46 posted on 08/15/2012 10:20:38 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion or tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

>>This is not a complex question, and this question is a question for you to answer! In other words, the question does not come with it’s own answer..<<

You are forensically challenged. “Begging the question” is a logical fallacy (and the smallest of your offenses). A question may be raised but only a question that answers itself (e.g. “If I am always right how can I be wrong?”) is begged. I am happy to assist you in curing your ignorance.

Please respond to my questions or admit you dug a deep hole in your attempt to bury a shovel. I will repeat them if you are unwilling or unable to scroll back.


47 posted on 08/15/2012 10:44:00 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (obozo could bring back literal slavery with chains and still he will get 85+% of the black vote)
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To: freedumb2003
Lets examine this exchange shall we?

"you are just wrong. L.A. and Irving are apx. the same."

Then after seeing the stats and say:

""Violent crime in Irving is about 1/2 of L.A.""

Then you state:

"Like the man said, there are lies, damned lies and statistics."

I responded: Well, this begs the question, are you denying the stats regarding Irving?

Then ya make this statement:

"Since the question does not contain its own answer, it “begs” nothing.

Do you realize what a fool you sound like?

((wow))

48 posted on 08/15/2012 11:11:51 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion or tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

>>Do you realize what a fool you sound like?<<

You continue to stand on your stupidity. I tried to help you but you insist on being ignorant, forensically and factually. If you are too stupid to understand what a logical fallacy is, you are probably beyond anyone’s help.

Since you are unable to scroll back, I repeat my questions:

1) In your tables, is Irving listed on the first (leftmost) column? If so, you got some ‘splaining to do.

2) Which of YOUR statistics are you unable to comprehend?

3) Do you understand what forensic analysis means? Do you know what a logical fallacy is?

Knowledge: get it, use it, make it part of your life. Purposeful ignorance is just pathetic.


49 posted on 08/15/2012 11:22:58 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (obozo could bring back literal slavery with chains and still he will get 85+% of the black vote)
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To: Vigilanteman

How do they steal modern cars with those new-fangled electronic keys that cost $200 to replace or more? It isn’t like you can hotwire them or anything.


50 posted on 08/15/2012 11:27:50 AM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: freedumb2003
Lets examine this exchange shall we?

"you are just wrong. L.A. and Irving are apx. the same."

Then after seeing the stats and say:

""Violent crime in Irving is about 1/2 of L.A.""

Then you state:

"Like the man said, there are lies, damned lies and statistics."

I responded: Well, this begs the question, are you denying the stats regarding Irving?

Then ya make this statement:

"Since the question does not contain its own answer, it “begs” nothing.

Go ahead and answer the question which doesn't have it's own answer...lol

PS...I know why ya won't answer it!...yuk yuk

51 posted on 08/15/2012 11:38:20 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion or tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

You really need to stop parading your ignorance. You state a logical fallacy and then trumpet it as if it somehow makes you “correct” (it does not).

It is clear your ignorance is permanent. Your enjoyment of that ignorance establishes a “cluck cluck tut tut” for us educated folks.

Now that we have established and permanently enshrined your stupidity, kindly answer my questions about YOUR posts.

I can type slower if that will help you comprehend what I am saying. As I said upthread I am both benevolent and kind.


52 posted on 08/15/2012 12:01:47 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (obozo could bring back literal slavery with chains and still he will get 85+% of the black vote)
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To: freedumb2003
Ya see the tagline below? You define it el perfecto.

I've dealt with many exactly like you, who when back into a corner do everything in they can to evade and deceive.

I just love it when that happens! It's a rush!

Now, just answer the question..It's OK. Go ahead.

53 posted on 08/15/2012 12:06:49 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion or tools of deceit)
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To: freedumb2003
kindly answer my questions about YOUR posts.

OK, I'll bite.

I asked you the questions first regarding Irving stats. But I'll play your game, and link and post everything again just for you. Then I will again ask you the same question again....lol

Now, be specific and ask your question and I will answer it.

54 posted on 08/15/2012 12:13:45 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion or tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

>>Ya see the tagline below? You define it el perfecto.
I’ve dealt with many exactly like you, who when back into a corner do everything in they can to evade and deceive.<<

English is not your first language is it? You don’t seem to understand what a “logical fallacy” is. It isn’t so much that you are ignorant — it is that you are proudly so.

>>I just love it when that happens! It’s a rush!<<

Yep, it is a rush when stupid people trumpet their stupidity as some sort of badge of honor.

>>Now, just answer the question..It’s OK. Go ahead.<<

I have answered the question. It is You, the Fool, who has not answered the questions. Your inability to use the scroll bar is fascinating to me — and I am sure to so many others.

Just answer (since you can’t scroll and read English): is the left column in YOUR posted tables the Irving numbers?

It is clear that concepts such as “logical fallacy” and “facts” are way beyond your ken (please don’t ask me to define “ken” — I am losing IQ points by the minute even responding to you).

Answer my question of just walk away — I suggest the latter (”latter” means the last option offered).

Now that I know English is a secondary language for you I will dumb down my posts to you so you can understand them.


55 posted on 08/15/2012 12:22:42 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (obozo could bring back literal slavery with chains and still he will get 85+% of the black vote)
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To: freedumb2003
OK, I'll bite.

I asked you the questions first regarding Irving stats. But I'll play your game, and link and post everything again just for you. Then I will again ask you the same question again....lol

Now, be specific and ask your question and I will answer it.

Answer my question of just walk away-

Uh, what?

56 posted on 08/15/2012 12:25:13 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion or tools of deceit)
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To: freedumb2003
is the left column in YOUR posted tables the Irving numbers?

They not MY tables...Irving is clearly listed on the left. You can't see that? Would you like to see other sources?

But just for you, here:

Crime/100k Irving, TX Los Angeles, CA Los Angeles, CA
Total Crime 4010.0 2894.2 27.8%
Violent Crime 256.4 559.2 118.1%
Property Crime 3753.6 2335.0 37.8%

Crime Breakdown

Crime/100k Irving, TX Los Angeles, CA Los Angeles, CA
Murder 2.9 7.6 162.2%
Rape 17.4 24.0 37.7%
Assault 153.7 243.2 58.3%
Robbery 82.4 284.4 245.1%
Burglary 791.0 453.2 42.7%
Theft 2660.1 1438.1 45.9%
Vehicle Theft 302.5 443.7 46.7%

57 posted on 08/15/2012 12:31:49 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion or tools of deceit)
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To: freedumb2003
Here's another for 06. ________________________________________________________ Latest 2006 Crimes per 100,000 People:
Irving, TX Los Angeles, CA National
Murder: 1.5 12.4 7
Forcible Rape: 24.1 27.3 32.2
Robbery: 132.6 370 205.8
Aggravated Assault: 268.7 377.2 336.5
Burglary: 840.6 524.8 813.2
Larceny Theft: 3378.6 1539.2 2601.7
Vehicle Theft: 623.7 654.4 501.5

Actual Reported Population and Crimes:

Irving, TX Los Angeles, CA
Population: 199,137 3,879,455  
Murder: 3 480
Forcible Rape: 48 1059
Robbery: 264 14353
Aggravated Assault: 535 14634
Burglary: 1674 20359
Larceny Theft: 6728 59711
Vehicle Theft: 1242 25389

58 posted on 08/15/2012 12:34:03 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion or tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

>>Now, be specific and ask your question and I will answer it.<<

OK. I will type this s l o w l y.

In the crime statistics tables YOU posted (and I haven’t challenged the source as I am kind and benevolent and always treat the mentally-challenged as I do the mentally able) are the first set of numbers representative of Irving, TX statistics? And the second column (”second” = “2”) representative of Los Angeles?

It doesn’t get clearer than that (”clearer”=”unambiguous” [”unambiguous”=”without ambivalence” <”ambivalence” = “understanding singularity”)>}} OK, I give up teaching you...


59 posted on 08/15/2012 12:35:00 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (obozo could bring back literal slavery with chains and still he will get 85+% of the black vote)
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To: freedumb2003
"you are just wrong. L.A. and Irving are apx. the same."

Then after seeing the stats and say:

""Violent crime in Irving is about 1/2 of L.A.""

Then you state:

"Like the man said, there are lies, damned lies and statistics."

I responded: Well, this begs the question, are you denying the stats regarding Irving?

Now, will ya answer the question in bold?

60 posted on 08/15/2012 12:37:15 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion or tools of deceit)
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