Posted on 08/19/2012 2:19:55 PM PDT by jobim
Here are the facts regarding friends (we'll call them the Parkers) of mine: Police came to the house at 3am, saying that someone reported they had heard a scream coming from their house. Police left upon being told that the Parkers had no knowledge of this.
Then sometime not long later, the police came to the Parker home again, saying that a 911 call had been made from the Parker house, with the voice of a woman yelling, and the phone was hung up. The parents were not at home, just the teenage boy and the 20-something girl. They showed no identification, although they wore the uniforms of the local police. The boy wished to accompany them as they searched the house, but they told him to stay where he was. One of the officers went down the hall to a bedroom where the husband's gun collection was, and lingered there long enough so that the other officer called out: "Are you all right?" The guns are all properly registered. The officers then left.
My questions: Is an incorrectly-attributed 911 call a frequent occurence? Could such be used to gain access to anyone's house? Is a warrant required?
Guess I’m a little dense. He’s lucky the cops didn’t arrest him for DUI when they did come.
>> “How many times have 911 operators and police dismissed a call and come to find out some psycho has had people tied up or chopped up in his garage?” <<
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None, as far as I can determine by google search.
911 calls are notoriously unreliable for anything.
when my daughter went to preschool, some genius decided that they all needed to know how to dial 911.
When the police showed up for the third time, I invited them in and made my 4 year old apologize to them for wasting their time. Seemed to satisfy the cops nothing bad was going on and no more 911 calls were made.
>> “and just what would you replace the current system with that is so much better?” <<
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A madatorily well armed citizenry that doesn’t need police for anything but incarcerating the perps that are apprehended by the citizens, as it was when the country was founded, and until 1833.
>> “when my daughter went to preschool, some genius decided that they all needed to know how to dial 911.” <<
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Preschool can be hazardous to your child’s mental health.
Well, at first reading I would say absolutely not, because the wording makes it sounds like all the calls came from somewhere else.
But IF the 911 call came from the house (and we have the electronics to pinpoint absolutely where the call originated), then I am not surprised the police came to check it out.
Can they enter?
Not without a warrant.
There are judges in every jurisdiction that would give them a warrant in five minutes time IF THEY HAVE PROBABLE CAUSE.
A warrant is one of those “line in the sand” thingies. The courts, the lawyers, the police are CONSTANTLY trying to find ways to diminish, obfuscate, and worm their way around it.
But we can’t let that happen. True Americans can’t let that be.
Just sayin...
One night about 20 years ago my wife and I went out to a function and left two of our daughters home alone for about two hours. One was in her early teens and the other was around 9. One of them called 911 while we were gone but then hung up. Because it was snowing we were able to confirm their story that the cops showed up was true due to footprints in the snow around the house.
They said the cops showed up and the girls hid and acted like nobody was home, so the cops left. We probably dodged a DSHS bullet on that one.
Wrong-o, but thanks for playing.
The Constitution protects against unreasonable searchs. The courts need to enforce the Constitution and view “expert” witnesses, “drug sniffing” dogs and other contrivances with deep skepticism. BTW, the exclusionary rule is *not* in the Constitution and often leads to perverse outcomes. And the WoD has done more harm to Americans liberties then anything since prohibition.
Thank you, all, for your thoughts. You are what make FR such a valuable resource. A Crown Royal Manhattan is coming in express chilled mail for each of you within the hour. I’ll let you know what we find out on this case.
Smoke inhalation.
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New one on me. Beautiful! And so true!!
It would be post of the day if anyone else knew what you were talking about!
I would give a very strong word of advice to “your friends the Parkers”. This sounds very much like whoever those men were, they were “casing the joint”.
Some acute paranoia on their part is in order. I would strongly recommend that they quickly locate a home security expert, tell him that they believe they are now high risk for home invasion, and that they need to have their home and valuables secured and protected ASAP.
This could include a six month contract for a professional security service.
http://home-security-monitoring-review.toptenreviews.com/
It would also be very wise to get a heavy safe for any special valuables. And anything of value they looked at, including guns, needs to be moved somewhere else.
Motion sensitive security lights are quite cheap, and security cameras are ubiquitous.
If the men were local police, have the Sheriff’s office on speed dial.
SWATting is illegal. I would further more say it is hacking. More technically it’s a form of spoofing or social engineering, which is certainly hacking.
A teenage boy, 20-year-old “girl”, and screaming? Buy that man a cigar!
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Offisher, shom one shtole muh car.
I had to register my pistol when I was stationed on Guam.
Didnt like it one bit.
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