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They've pulled the 'RAPE' card; now Akin should stick to his guns (vanity)
the leftist attack media | 8/20/2012 | me

Posted on 08/20/2012 8:19:56 AM PDT by shhrubbery!

The mainstream media have gleefully pulled the "RAPE" card. We conservatives should recognize this for what this is:
There is no real issue, no real "outrage" over what Akin said. In fact, what Akin said is generally true, albeit inartfully said.

No, what is really going on here is the Left's campaign of distraction. Dangle a shiny object, blanket the airwaves and other media with non-stop "discussion" of this "controversy," and distract voters from real issues.

Here is what Akin should do:

1. Call a news conference. Have a pro-life ob/gyn/physiologist stand up and answer questions on this topic. I.e., tell the world the truth that pregnancy as a result of traumatic rape IS, in fact, RARE.

2. Bring Norma McCorvey to this news conference too. Norma, as many of us know, is the original "Roe" of Roe v. Wade. She will tell the story of how she was induced to claim she was gang-raped. This was a lie of the Left, and perjury to the Court. But it worked; and all our states' abortion laws were struck down, partly on the strength of the lie that pregancies resulting from rapes were common. McCorvey will tell the truth about the use of "rape" as a red herring by the Left.

3. Akin must stick to his guns. Stand up, and do it with conviction. Voters admire a candidate who has the courage of his convictions.

And here is what we conservatives should NOT do:

We should NOT join the msm pile on. We should NOT ridicule and condemn Akin like the rabid Left and their henchmen in the msm are doing right now.

You know, we have just seen Paul Ryan show the courage of his convictions in taking on another hot button issue ... Medicare.

How about we take a lesson from Ryan and NOT run away like scared little children every time the Alinsky-ites pull a shiny object out of their bag of sleazy tricks.


TOPICS: US: Missouri; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: abortion; akin; mccaskill; missouri; mo2012
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To: Uncle Slayton

You keep repeating this idiocy, yet there are NO doctors who will support what he said, what do you not understand about that? His position that “legitimate rape” does not result in pregnancy is so far wrong that it shouldn’t even deserve an actual response.


41 posted on 08/20/2012 9:31:51 AM PDT by PhxTM06
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To: shhrubbery!

Traumatic rape is rare, so of course pregnancy from traumatic rape is also rare. And in fact, pregnancy is “rare” as well, happening only a small percentage of the time one has intercourse.

However, there is nothing about forcible rape that makes it particularly MORE rare to get pregnant. There is not “forcible rape response” in a woman’s body that prevents pregnancies. That was an absurd statement, and devastating.

Further, the argument against allowing abortion has nothing to do with how rare it would be needed. Saying that we can ban abortion because it would only affect a few thousand women is an absurd argument as well, and works directly against the real argument.

Abortion should be illegal because it kills a human being. It makes no difference how that human being was conceived.


42 posted on 08/20/2012 9:32:21 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Snickering Hound; TexasCajun
Paging Sarah Steelamn...

Paging Sarah Steelman...

Please respond to a clean-up in the GOP-e Dept...

43 posted on 08/20/2012 9:34:08 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Kleon

Oh... That will make a great talking point at the debate.


44 posted on 08/20/2012 9:34:48 AM PDT by paul544
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To: PhxTM06
His position that “legitimate rape” does not result in pregnancy is so far wrong that it shouldn’t even deserve an actual response.

Now you're just twisting what he actually said.

45 posted on 08/20/2012 9:35:08 AM PDT by Kleon
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To: shhrubbery!

The liberals including Romney called Akin’s words inexcusable. All the liberals are getting on board.


46 posted on 08/20/2012 9:36:40 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Attention Republican National Convention voters....Santorum/Bachmann 2012! Dump liberal Romney NOW!)
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To: Kleon

“If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down,”

“If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down,”

“If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down,”

“If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down,”

Really, what am I twisting?


47 posted on 08/20/2012 9:37:27 AM PDT by PhxTM06
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To: skeeter

Akin is safe as he’s running in a conservative area.

Not really. The state of Missouri is not that conservative.


48 posted on 08/20/2012 9:39:33 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Attention Republican National Convention voters....Santorum/Bachmann 2012! Dump liberal Romney NOW!)
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To: paul544
It’s not a medical opinion. Unlike suggesting a woman’s body rejects pregnancy due to rape.

So when a doctor tells a woman who is trying to get pregnant and has no underlying medical issues to relax and reduce her stress and the pregnancy will happen, he's wrong? So stress has no impact on the ability of a woman's body to conceive?

49 posted on 08/20/2012 9:40:49 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: napscoordinator

Ding ding ding.

Romney and Obama are basically running neck and neck in Missouri. McCaskill was elected there previously, thanks to the St Louis area among others, Missouri is far more evenly divided than some here suggest and these comments will cost the GOP votes.


50 posted on 08/20/2012 9:42:56 AM PDT by PhxTM06
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To: heartwood; vet7279
heartwood, I would question whether vet7279's numbers are "actual." I don't think even he claimed they were "actual." Looked more like a guess to me.

Anyway, in response to your request for a study, here is the testimony of a medical doctor, an ob/gyn:

Dr. John C. Wilkie, ob/gyn, on the rarity of pregnancy after traumatic rape

Back in the '80s when I used to argue this topic, I had list of doctors who had spoken out on this issue. That was the pre-internet age, and I had to search high and low for written sources. I no longer have my list but am going to try to resurrect it.

But I must point out that any scholars who attempt a study on this topic must expect to have their careers destroyed by the Left.

Witness the firestorm of attacks on Mark Regnerus after publication of his excellent study on child-rearing by homosexual parents -- a study that brought into question the conventional MSM/Left wisdom that children raised by "gay" parents always turned out fine and dandy.

51 posted on 08/20/2012 9:43:12 AM PDT by shhrubbery! (NIH!)
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To: PhxTM06

You said he claimed it “does not result in pregnancy,” but what he actually said was that it was very rare.


52 posted on 08/20/2012 9:43:22 AM PDT by Kleon
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To: MEGoody

That is what he wants. There isn’t really much you can do about the media accurately stating your own position.

At least, that would have given us an argument over truth and fact. What he did was make pro-life people look like idiots. Also, suggesting once again that pro-lifers really want to “punish” women for having sex. That is what his statement did — saying that if the woman didn’t choose to have sex, her body would keep her from getting pregnant.

Worse, he suggested that statutory rape was a case where the girl wants to have sex, as if that makes it OK to punish her with a pregnancy.

Pro-lifers win the moral argument when we stick to the truth — abortion kills human beings. We lose when we make it about what the woman did, and what she deserves because of it.


53 posted on 08/20/2012 9:45:22 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: shhrubbery!
1. Call a news conference. Have a pro-life ob/gyn/physiologist stand up and answer questions on this topic. I.e., tell the world the truth that pregnancy as a result of traumatic rape IS, in fact, RARE.

If you're one of the thousand or ten thousand or thirty thousand wome - take your pick - who became pregnant as a result of rape then it isn't rare to you. Akins' dismissal of what they are going through has drowned out whatever valid point he was trying to make on not compounding rape with taking another life. He screwed up, big time.

2. Bring Norma McCorvey to this news conference too. Norma, as many of us know, is the original "Roe" of Roe v. Wade. She will tell the story of how she was induced to claim she was gang-raped. This was a lie of the Left, and perjury to the Court. But it worked; and all our states' abortion laws were struck down, partly on the strength of the lie that pregancies resulting from rapes were common. McCorvey will tell the truth about the use of "rape" as a red herring by the Left.

So then you're going to have Akin imply that all women who claim that they became pregnant through rape are lying? Having shot himself in the foot you want him to take careful aim and then blow the sucker clean off.

3. Akin must stick to his guns. Stand up, and do it with conviction. Voters admire a candidate who has the courage of his convictions.

I'd like to think that voters have little tolerance for idiots but history would prove me wrong. Still, there is a limit to the level of idiocy they will vote for and Akins is dancing right on the edge with this comment and his other ones.

54 posted on 08/20/2012 9:47:48 AM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: Kleon

Great, do you think the media is going to take time to report his actual intentions or to flash that quote all over the place? Do you think McCaskill will? She’s the one who spent a million dollars backing this guy in the primary, obviously she saw a fool ripe for the taking.

It was a stupid thing to do, as I said before, male politicians should simply stop discussing the female body because unfailingly they manage to sound like total idiots most of the time when doing it.


55 posted on 08/20/2012 9:49:33 AM PDT by PhxTM06
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To: PhxTM06

Congressmen Akin has stated that doctors have told him that women’s bodies shut down their reproductive systems at the moment the body determines that it is being legitimacy raped and being that the congressman would not lie, I expect him to offer these doctors in a press conference to present their facts and legitimize what Akin said.


56 posted on 08/20/2012 9:50:16 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: shhrubbery!

Sorry, I can stand for common sense pro-life conservatism. I cannot stand behind, or will I attempt to defend idiotic comments made by an idiot.

How exactly am I supposed to defend his statement? Please name the magical female mechanism that can discern a “legitimate” rape and thus block the sperm from reaching the egg inside her body?


57 posted on 08/20/2012 9:54:25 AM PDT by gore_sux (Al Franken - Preferred by Minnesota Educated Somali Pirates and Suicide Bombers Everywhere)
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To: shhrubbery!

So you think a panel of officials should make people medical decisions...?


58 posted on 08/20/2012 9:54:51 AM PDT by Inconvenient Truthteller
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To: Uncle Slayton
Expect Akin to produce a few medical doctors that will support Akin’s findings that the female reproductive system shuts down during what the body determines is a legitimate rape.

Where is he going to round up a bunch of cranks and quacks on such short notice?

59 posted on 08/20/2012 9:55:11 AM PDT by Inconvenient Truthteller
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To: MEGoody

It’s SOP for a doctor who can’t actually do anything to offer meaningless platitudes to make the patient happy.


60 posted on 08/20/2012 9:55:23 AM PDT by Inconvenient Truthteller
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