Skip to comments.Mann versus Steyn: popcorn time!
Posted on 08/28/2012 2:28:28 PM PDT by neverdem
Today I'm launching a fund and I wonder whether anyone would like to contribute. Please, I implore you all, PLEASE chip in to help finance Professor Michael Mann's suit for defamation against sinister, right-wing Canadian climate-change denier Mark Steyn and the fascist-denialist organ for which Steyn writes, National Review Online!
I don't think Mann is going to win his case, not for one fraction of a millisecond. That's why I think it's so important that we give him all the financial encouragement we can at this sensitive early stage.
There's a danger that Mann may yet take advice from his lawyers, realise that there's about as much chance of his defending the integrity of his ludicrous, comedy "Hockey Stick" curve as there is of George Galloway winning the Random Stranger I'd Feel Most Safe Sharing A Bed With While Completely Fast Asleep award (as annually voted by the readers of Mumsnet) and pull out.
This must not be allowed to happen.
From obscure beginnings and with little discernible talent, Michael Mann has risen to become arguably the best loved comedy figure in the entire field of climate science, like Fatty Arbuckle, Pee Wee Herman and Coco the Clown rolled into one.
He singlehandedly invented Mann-made global warming using his amazing Hockey Stick curve the one programmed using the ingenious algorithm whereby, whatever information you fed into it fudged paleoclimatological reconstructions, the latest football scores, tofu futures it always came out in the same, scary-looking This Is The End Of The World And We've Got To Act Now By Pumping Gazillions More Money Into Climate Research shape.
He gave us the phrase "Hide The Decline" and starred in the hilarious song and video written in homage by a fan club called Minnesotans For Global Warming.
(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.telegraph.co.uk ...
He's advocating for money to help someone litigate a "defamation of character" suit while throwing EVERY slur and exaggeration he can to slimy up the target (fascist? REALLY? Commutards rejoice).
I’m seriously considering purchasing stock in popcorn. :D I’d love to see Mann put on the hot seat and forced to actually defend that excretion he calls a scientific fact.
It’s hard to separate satire and truth these days *nods*
Basically, he’s a British comic asking people to help convince his major source of comedic material and target of ridicule to not cut his career short, so that this comic will be able to pillory the guy further.
Trying reading past the first sentence of the article before posting.
Will two cents help?
Defending oneself against even a totally meritless lawsuit is an enormous burden.
While that's all too true, I'd be willing to bet that Steyn would get a tremendous amount of satisfaction out of the discovery process. (Mann, meanwhile, would be crapping his pants.)
You can measure how outclassed someone is, by counting the adjectives they use to describe their rivals.
Delingpole constantly mocks the globalist loons that promote man-made global warming (such as Michael Mann).
That's why, with tongue in cheek, he's asking that we "support" Michael Mann so Mann can get his ass whupped in a debate with Steyn.
Hope that clears up things.
Um, I read the entire piece. What’s your point?
In the last 3 years Steyn pretty much singlehandedly destroyed the Canadian hate crimes prosecution system.
He shouldn’t have too much trouble with Mann.
From the comments on their site it would appear the jig is up.
“I’d be willing to bet that Steyn would get a tremendous amount of satisfaction out of the discovery process. (Mann, meanwhile, would be crapping his pants.)”
You assume our legal system is honest and concerned with the pursuit of truth and justice. If that were the case Mann would have never filed his lawsuit.
Our legal system is corrupt. It is a tool for bad people to intimidate and extort money from good people.
But I would love to see glogal warming slimeballs like Mann put under oath and be forced to answer questions about their fraudulent studies.
Mann will never man-up. This is all bluster. Mann's work is corrupt and fraudulent, and as such, indefensible.
By the way, Mann still hasn't responded to freedom-of-information requests regarding his "work."
I would love to see him take on Steyn. Not going to happen.
He is, as we British like to say, taking the Mickey. His sympathies are pretty obviously with Steyn, and not Mann. I’m told Americans have a tougher time detecting the use of irony...
I have put Michael Mann before the Lord. Psalm 58 and 59.
It doesn’t look like you read the entire article.
I recognized the author so it wasn’t difficult to realize he was being ironic...not knowing the author nor reading the whole piece is a handicap.
I’m a Yank, and I can instantly detect irony and sarcasm by reading the by-line “James Delingpole”.
BTW, Yanks are more sparing and lest practiced in these high arts, so when I read an American author I must often strain to tell whether or not he is serious. With Delingpole, not so much. (Mark Twain was the master of the form, and he pulled it off with such subtly at times that it dawns on one slowly like the glow that overcomes one when sipping slowly on a fine sherry.)
Hide the Decline
That is a very funny column. I wonder if we should all give to both sides, just $2 to the defense for every $1 for the plaintiff. Certainly there will be high entertainment value from this.
Reason why this threatened lawsuit will not go forward. Mann has been hiding fraudulent data ever since his Virginia days.
He’s a conservative author who has written a major book debunking. The Watermellon Greens, and he’s funny as hell. He write sall the time at the Ricochet.com website.
Ah. I remember reading an article by Simon Pegg (of ‘Hot Fuzz’ and ‘Shaun of the Dead’ fame) who wrote that generally speaking, Americans do ‘get’ irony when they expect it (such as watching a comedy), but not so much when they don’t. So, if you use an ironic statement in a non-sarcastic tone of voice whilst having a casual conversation with a friend in the US, it is more likely to be taken literally (as in when my mum when she was fed up with us told a friend in the US she felt like giving us 50c and telling us to go and play in the road, which apparently sparked a somewhat nervous response!)
Mann...from hockey stick to hockey puck...
OMG - is Delingpole that much of a stranger around here?
(hint: he is one of the good guys)
sorry - this was meant to be addressed to: ALL
I wish him success in convincing Mann to sue, but it’ll never happen.
No. Delingpole is well known to those who follow the AGW stuff
He is one of us
Thanks for the link.
Mann has a similar lawsuit against Prof Bell of Canada, and Mann is not producing documents. It sounds like it is going badly for Mann. He may have to withdraw and have to pay all legal costs.
It should get interesting.
His Tree-Ring Circus was goofy and I am surprised that his flimsy work is supposedly the pillar of the global warming claim. That is frightening! He cherry picked a few tree rings in Siberia and then manipulated the data to create the hockey stick. He also denies the Middle Age Warming Period, except that is has been proven yet again in a new study by Syracuse University. Mann is more a PR guy than anything else.
Richard Lindzen (MIT)has taken a lot of heat for debunking this crap.
Mann is a liar and a fraud. He is behind the “hockey stick” global warming theory that has been shown to be fraudulent by both other researchers and the leaked emails from global warmers.
I would love to see him lose every penny he has and be disgraced.
Someone has a gay crush on Mann
I’m sure that’s true, but it’s not James Delingpole. He might have a crush on Mark Steyn, though, in a strictly intellectual way ...
I like Steyn’s cute beard, but his up-north voice puts me off.
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The point is that the author is on Steyn’s side.
Yeah, I got that as did every other reader. I guess I missed the mystery point wideawake was trying to make.
Sarcasm and satire are completely lost on you, aren’t they!
Would a little strong coffee help?
Thanks for the ping!
“...Americans have a tougher time detecting the use of irony...”
reading some reactions here, that proves to be unfortunately true. Embarrassing, actually.