Posted on 08/28/2012 5:22:01 PM PDT by Travis McGee
Well troll, you seemed determined to hijack the thread with some kind of drug addled fixation, I must have hurt you very badly somewhere, on some thread about drugs.
“men better than yourself that voluntarily put themselves in harm’s way on your behalf.”
Listen, blowhard, we all know how narcissistic the Gen Y crowd is and how we have to pat them on the head and tell them what a great job they did not pissing on their hands when they took a leak, but try not to hyperventilate and understand that you’re talking to men that were solving the world’s problems long before your discovered your own dick.
Thank you and well wishes to you and yours the same.
Go away.
Lucky me, I'm not from Gen Y. And if you were so great at solving the world's problems I guess we still wouldn't have those same problems as Iraq and Afghanistan were problems well before I stepped on the scene. But your welcome for "clean up on aisle 6."
Well the same goes for longtime FReepers, particularly ones as respected as Travis. Trash-talking him is not going to win you any friends around here.
Polite disagreement would have got you a much more fraternal response.
Generations have fought for you and yours, as well as your right to desecrate the keyboard with dysfunctional speech.
But if you cannot, its understood, if not already presumed.
Respond if you like...time to hit the rack for me...
Good night, Chesty - Wherever you are!
wtf is I&I and just how the hell do they get this kind of coordination from the USMC ???
seems all the brass are steering the ship to a domestic purpose...
Ah yes, Phenix City....
Where Patton allegedly drove a tank through the bars and “cat houses” because the vice lords of Phenix City were preying on Patton’s troops.
See that, subtlety isn't *completely* wasted on you....
LAPD did that years ago, when they were developing/organizing some of the first swat teams. How did that work out?
From coast to coast, we now have swat teams being developed on police departments in small rural towns, from Hacksaw Arkansas to Maine. Hundreds of documented cases from all over the U.S. have shown time and time again the reckless manner in which these teams go into neighborhoods playing military soldiers, as if these targets are mass murdering international terrorist. This is bull sh*t.
SWAT was intended for dangerous hostage situations, and extremely violent people who've already killed etc.
Now? It's used for every GD law violation imaginable, from simple outstanding warrants to pot gardens. In the U.S. law enforcement agencies have spent hundred of billions in military hardware, vehicles, military training tactics, etc.
Those capable of critical thought understand this is bullshit and should have never been allowed to escalate to this point.
Hear, hear!
Maybe those with the intelligence that is classified know of plans by the immigrants, not the citizens. There are lots of “foreign”, private schools in philly. You just have to know where to go for the info.
I agree with you completely, but that doesn't mean that there isn't still a need for SWAT and we should get rid of it altogether. Get rid of town/local/state police and let the county sheriffs do their job. If they have a SWAT team and said SWAT team goes in and shoots someone's dog, or violates someone's rights - then take those at fault, to include the leadership, and charge them, convict them, and lock them up. If they're guilty of murder - fry them.
But, a reservist MP company training with police is not a violation of Posse Comitatus.
Hell the Interstate Commerce Clause was to keep states from charging each other tariffs and look what they get away with under that guise......it is long past time to put an end to the nonsense all the way around; killing strawmen isn't going to accomplish that.
IMHO you gotta be careful using the Bonus March as an example of violation of Posse Commitatus.
The Federal District of Washington D.C. is just what it says, under federal control exclusively, and that’s where the Bonus Army camped out & set up their shantytown.
Douglas MacArthur surely overreacted using Renault tanks (p***ant little vehicles to any real tanker) to bulldoze the shanties of the poor desperate Bonus marchers. But notice how little this action affected the memory of the general who later said, “I shall return”.
What’s never ever mentioned in the accounts of the Bonus March is that they got exactly what they wanted: the WW1 vets’ bonus was paid ten years ahead of what the original legislation provided, in 1935 instead of 1945. FWIW my grandfather received his $600 bonus & used it to buy the house he had been renting, owned it free & clear by 1940.
Also, commemorating the Bonus Army is the stuff of Pete Seeger, Woody Guthrie, Peter Paul & Mary, and other lefty folkies. No offense, just having fun here because I’m old enough to remember all their shenanigans.
;^)
The biggest baddest military in the world is not capable of training their own military MPs after multiple wars and police actions all over the planet, for that past several hundred years?
Come on.
Civilian law enforcement and the military should be totally 100 percent separated, except for sharing intelligence/information if need be. Both are quite capable of training their own people.
That sentiment would be much easier to agree with if things actually happened that way.
As is, there's damn little they do for which an ulterior motive is not utterly plausible.
There was a bar in Germany that received similar treatment from the Airborne sometime after WWII.
It used to be a common tale 40+ years ago.
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