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NC Gov. Perdue warns of ‘coat hangers in the bath tub’ if pro-life movement gets its way [VIDEO]
dailycaller.com ^ | 09-03-2012 | Jeff Poor

Posted on 09/03/2012 7:32:38 PM PDT by bronxville

On Monday’s edition of MSNBC’s “Hardball,” broadcast live from Charlotte, N.C., North Carolina Democratic Gov. Bev Perdue went out of her to blast Republicans and conservatives for their positions on social issues.

“May I make a point?” Perdue said at the site of the 2012 Democratic National Convention. “I’ve never seen a bunch like this here so against regulation, Chris. They want less, less, less. And then it comes to a woman in the bedroom and they want to control everything. I don’t get that.”

Noted women’s issues expert and “Hardball” host Chris Matthews went on to ask Perdue if she thought people understand what it means to support an abortion ban, that such a ban would drive the practice of abortion underground.

“They’re going to go somewhere to end the pregnancy if they can afford it,” Perdue said. “But for poor women you’ll be back to the days of coat hangers in the bathtub and you’ll see women die. No, choice is a huge issue. I”m old enough to think that war was fought.”

Matthews then asked if the North Carolina governor was “surprised” to see Romney suggest he wanted to rid the judiciary of “liberal judges” and ultimately “ram through an end” to Roe v. Wade.

“That’s the end game in every state in America,” she said. “That’s right out of Karl Rove’s playbook. We know that and we see what’s happened in Texas. We’ve seen what has happened all over the country. People have got to stand up. Women have to understand that it might be their daughter or their granddaughter who’s raped. And there’s no such thing as legitimate rape. Rape is a rape, and that young woman should have a choice about what to do with her body and her life.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/03/nc-gov-perdue-warns-of-coat-hangers-in-the-bath-tub-if-pro-life-movement-gets-its-way-video/#ixzz25SoF0ur9


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012electionbias; abortion; bathtub; botchedabortions; coathangermyth; coathangers; fearmongering; hysteria; mythmaking; perdue; smearcampaign; waronwomen
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1 posted on 09/03/2012 7:32:49 PM PDT by bronxville
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To: bronxville

Too bad Bev’s mother didn’t abort her.


2 posted on 09/03/2012 7:33:36 PM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: bronxville

When one considers the number of botched abortions we’ve been reading about lately where the woman died, I’m not really sure I know what ditzy Bev is talking about. I don’t think she does either.


3 posted on 09/03/2012 7:35:56 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Had enough of the freaks running the show yet?)
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To: dfwgator

what is this about...who will recall Abortions..no one.


4 posted on 09/03/2012 7:36:14 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: bronxville

These commie bungholes will do anything except talk about Dear Ruler’s failed Presidency.


6 posted on 09/03/2012 7:39:59 PM PDT by NoobRep
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To: GBT1945

Haven’t you ever seen the scars on basketball players’ heads?


7 posted on 09/03/2012 7:40:08 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: bronxville

Here’s a good video: Liberals Will Raise the Abortion Issue as Sure as They Will Raise Taxes... http://ow.ly/drbKW


8 posted on 09/03/2012 7:41:32 PM PDT by tsowellfan (Voting for Obama/Biden is like purposely swallowing two tapeworms)
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To: GBT1945
urban legend (IMO)- probably morphed from bad / unsanitized instruments....

gross

9 posted on 09/03/2012 7:41:38 PM PDT by mike_9958
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To: bronxville

if a female is a liberal, no matter how hot... avoid her like the plague

when women start realizing guys are repelled by their ideology... then things will change

if today’s ‘men’ are too weak to have a basic level of standards... then none of it matters


10 posted on 09/03/2012 7:43:03 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: bronxville

Coat Hangers in the Bathtub or Baby Parts in the Sink.

Quite a “choice” there Gov.


12 posted on 09/03/2012 7:45:01 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Republicans Hope people are Smart, but Democrats Know people are Stupid.)
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To: GBT1945

Beverly Perdue is a perfect example of how it’s impossible to discuss certain issues with the liberals.

The liberals frame the debate to be that anyone who opposes any aspect of abortion on demand as espoused by Roe Vs. Wade, anyone who favors any restrictions on abortion, is thus in favor of women dying in botched abortions. How can you have dialogue on the issue with people like this???

Or, in other words, Romney and Ryan want women impaled on coat hangers. They are actually in favor of women being stabbed with these rusty coat hangars.

That’s the state of the abortion debate in this country. And the media enables this, as they never call out the liberals on this. And other issues too.


13 posted on 09/03/2012 7:46:30 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: GBT1945
The idea of widespread and dangerous “back alley” abortions prior to the nationwide legalization of abortion in 1973 is not supported by the facts.

The medical director of Planned Parenthood wrote in 1960 that “90% of illegal abortions are presently being done by physicians.”

Likewise, the “coat hanger abortion” is a myth. In his 1979 book, Aborting America, Dr. Bernard Nathanson, co-founder of the National Association for the Repeal of Abortion Laws (NARAL) mentions one coat hanger abortion.

However, Nathanson, who is now committedly pro-life, has publicly confessed to fabricating evidence in order to get abortion legalized.

There is no hard evidence to support the performance of a single coat hanger abortion.

NARAL claimed that 1,000,000 illegal abortions were performed yearly, though they believed the actual number to be about 100,000. They claimed that 10,000 women died each year from illegal abortions, knowing that the actual number was a mere fraction of this.

Sources: Calderone, Mary S., MD 1960. Illegal Abortion as a Public Health Problem. American Journal of Public Health 50, no. 7 ( July). p. 949.

Nathanson, Bernard. Confessions of an Ex-Abortionist. http://www.aboutabortions.com/Confess.html.

14 posted on 09/03/2012 7:47:58 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: bronxville; Morgana

liberals have an insane bloodlust! Only the blood of babies will do.


15 posted on 09/03/2012 7:48:50 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: bronxville
Obama FAIL *Must See* Video:

"We've Heard It All Before" 1:02


** Pro-Abortion Democrats Scream at 11-Year-Old Pro-Life Girl at Convention **


If it's Monday, It Must be 'Empty Chair Day'

Right rallies for 'Empty Chair Day' [post your pics in this thread, FREEPers!]


16 posted on 09/03/2012 7:50:07 PM PDT by Golden Gate
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Stories? I read about the one in Chicago - have there been others?


17 posted on 09/03/2012 7:50:52 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Dilbert San Diego

so its okay to hold up a coat hangar but not the result of the coat hangar?


18 posted on 09/03/2012 7:54:56 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: bronxville

I doubt the unborn baby has a preference between bathtub or clinic. End result is the same except maybe bathtub may provide instant karma.


19 posted on 09/03/2012 7:57:26 PM PDT by paintriot (I've seen too much.....)
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To: bronxville
I'll fully back abortions in the bedroom if we can defund them at plannedarenthood and elsewhere.

And, frankly, I don't care what goes on in your bedroom, but we you start parading it down Main Street and in front of Congressional committees and asking others to accept, condone and pay for it, I might have a problem.

PS Libs: What if I use protection in the bedroom -- like an ashtray and a Smith & Wesson. You got a problem with that?

20 posted on 09/03/2012 7:57:49 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: jjotto

Obama has a scar on his head.


21 posted on 09/03/2012 8:02:49 PM PDT by rabidralph (http://www.patriotcalendars.com/)
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To: bronxville

The ultrasound is probably the best weapon in the war on abortion. It’s pretty hard to deny the humanity of a baby in the womb, when you can see it on a monitor.


22 posted on 09/03/2012 8:10:14 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: bronxville

As hubby put it: You mean they’re going to run on Roe v. Wade?!?!?!


23 posted on 09/03/2012 8:10:35 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: GBT1945
Abortions have always been done mostly in hospitals or doctors' offices, coded as "D&C"s; and after the advent of antibiotics, during and after WWII, abortions became relatively safe. The coat-hanger in the alley is an urban legend which has no basis in reality but was found useful as a demogogic tool by babykillers like Perdue.

Guttmacher Institute has statistics on mortality, or used to, that may be useful. Wilke had a piece on this too, years ago, in his book.

25 posted on 09/03/2012 8:22:01 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: GBT1945

some of the terrible consequences that have happened to women having ‘legal’ abortions at planned parenthood should be told now for the same reason.


26 posted on 09/03/2012 8:23:43 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: bronxville

Which would still probably be safer than most abortion clinics! They’re often worse than the back-alley stories the liberals always try to scare us with.


27 posted on 09/03/2012 8:26:02 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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To: bronxville

Awwww....that trusty old reliable coat hanger!


28 posted on 09/03/2012 8:28:31 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: bronxville

Tell Bev Purdue Dr Bernard Nathanson the Father of abortion who performed 75000 plus abortions after Converting to Catholicism revealed he Made up stories about women dying from Coat hanger abortions for Dramatic effect. He died last yr


29 posted on 09/03/2012 8:28:49 PM PDT by philly-d-kidder (AB-Sheen"The truth is the truth if nobody believes it,a lie is still a lie, everybody believes it")
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To: Dilbert San Diego

That’s right. All republicans - including republican women - simply WANT poor desperate girls to grab coat hangers. Preferrably rusty metal ones too.

And why wouldn’t they? If they are told an abortion is illegal, the coat hanger is their ONLY choice right? What do you expect them to do? Actually consider having the baby?

We want all rape victims to get preggers too - just so we have the satisfaction of forcing them to give birth too.

That’s just how we roll! /s


30 posted on 09/03/2012 8:32:22 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: GBT1945

What people don’t realize is that The Affordable Care Act, such as it is, may well bring on the coat-hook abortionist....

Doctor shortages may be very real for everyone.

No sacred cow’s here dearhearts, it’s all, “As the Secretary Shall Direct.” You’ve got to read the law to know what’s in it.

Pro-abortionist Secretary = abortions.

Pro-life secretary = No abortions, or limited abortions, or rare abortions.

You see, it will reach us all regardless of our leanings. That’s the evil of it.


31 posted on 09/03/2012 8:54:15 PM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: bronxville

“But for poor women you’ll be back to the days of coat hangers in the bathtub and you’ll see women die....”

News flash lady- I did newborn ICU for 14+ years in a major hospital on the edge of a ghetto. The women were pumping babies out as fast as they could and readily admitted it was to get more money from the government. It was like geese laying golden eggs. The number of “repeat offenders” I saw, and number of women who said, “I remember you,” I doubt I could count.


32 posted on 09/03/2012 9:08:02 PM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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To: rabidralph

I think they sucked out Obama’s brain.


33 posted on 09/03/2012 9:09:21 PM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: dfwgator

Nothing there to suck out to begin with.


34 posted on 09/03/2012 9:53:22 PM PDT by Jacob Kell
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To: kingattax

I heard Bernard Nathanson speak once. He had treated many women injured by illegal abortion, and that experience drove him to the pro-abortion movement. By the 1960s they were able to save nearly all the women so injured, because of antibiotics and transfusions. He said perhaps 200 women a year were dying in 1960, by the early 70s about 30.

Government statistics show 859 maternal deaths from all causes in 1968, including 133 abortion deaths (induced abortion, legal or illegal, miscarriage and unspecified.)
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsus/mort68_2a.pdf

People will claim that the abortion deaths were hidden, disguised as deaths from other causes. If so, then there would have been a big drop in the number in the deaths of women of child-bearing age once abortion was safe and legal.
There was no such drop.


35 posted on 09/03/2012 9:57:36 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: bronxville

That is outrageously ignorant. So offensive and ignorant all at once. Insulting to say that anyone would desire it, and ignorant to state it would be even an outcome.

I was one who was pounding on Akin for his ignorant statement. I am now fully on board the Gingrich view, demanding Democrats who say things equally ignorant be held to account.

Not that it would happen, but it needs to be called out.


36 posted on 09/03/2012 9:57:46 PM PDT by WOSG (REPEAL AND REPLACE OBAMA. He stole AmericaÂ’s promise!)
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To: bronxville

Perdue raised $15 million for the general election and ran ads against her Republican opponent, Charlotte Mayor Pat McCrory, criticizing him for not being tough enough on illegal immigration.

On September 27, 2011, Perdue introduced the idea of suspending the Congressional elections. She told the Cary Rotary Club, “You have to have more ability from Congress, I think, to work together and to get over the partisan bickering and focus on fixing things. I think we ought to suspend, perhaps, elections for Congress for two years and just tell them we won’t hold it against them, whatever decisions they make, to just let them help this country recover. I really hope that someone can agree with me on that. The one good thing about Raleigh is that for so many years we worked across party lines. It’s a little bit more contentious now but it’s not impossible to try to do what’s right in this state.

She also vetoed a bill that would have required voters to show photo ID before casting their ballots.

She vetoed a bill that would have allowed and provided regulatory control of fracking in her state. The veto was overridden soon thereafter.

Federal authorities looked into 41 confirmed private flights Perdue took dating back to 2005, which her campaign did not report until 2009. The state Board of Elections in August fined Perdue’s campaign $30,000 for the flights aboard campaign donors’ planes.

After the election Peter Reichard, a Greensboro businessman who served as the Perdue campaign’s finance director, was charged with obstruction of justice. Reichard has been a key player in the gubernatorial campaigns of Perdue and her predecessor, Mike Easley, both Democrats.


37 posted on 09/03/2012 10:10:37 PM PDT by kcvl
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Noted women’s issues expert and “Hardball” host Chris Matthews.

Did I read that correctly?

Wrong on both counts.

I’m getting a tingle.

Take your meds Chris.


38 posted on 09/04/2012 12:24:43 AM PDT by glyptol
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To: bronxville

Perdue is insane. Certifiable. Spent too much time on the chicken farm. Ate too much corn. Now she is full of chicken-shit. Has become a noisy old hen. Time for the cooking pot, Bev.

She’s such a wacko that even Chick Fil-A won’t accept her.


39 posted on 09/04/2012 12:31:48 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: dfwgator

Bev’s mother had a few coat hangers but no bathtub!


40 posted on 09/04/2012 12:56:55 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline/Tomas de Torquemada Gentleman's Society: Roast 'em!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Well, not Ryan!


41 posted on 09/04/2012 12:59:21 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline/Tomas de Torquemada Gentleman's Society: Roast 'em!)
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To: philly-d-kidder
What garbage! Nathanson sold his abortion mill business while still an atheist. He and his wife became pro-lifers and took all the proceeds of sale to create the Bern-Adele Foundation to fund pro-life efforts, THEN converted to Catholicism. His abortion mill operations (the Center for Reproductive and Sexual Health or CRASH) may have aborted 250,000 or more while he was a pro-abort and, as an abortionist, he had killed 60,000 all BEFORE he became a Roman Catholic, converted by life and Fr. John McCloskey of Opus Dei and baptized in 1996 by John Cardinal O'Connor of New York.

The lies were those of the despicable Lawrence Lader ringleader of NARAL. When Nathanson served on NARAL's board, he decided to quit that because listening to Lader talk about Catholics was like what it must have been like to listen to Hitler on the subject of Dr. Nathanson's fellow Jews.

If you cannot source your fantastic lie or distortion or factless assertion that he performed ANY abortions after his baptism into the Catholic Church, much less 75,000 of them, you owe his memory and your fellow FReepers an apology.

Oh, and while Dr. Nathanson was guilty of MANY abortions, he was hardly "the Father of abortion." The Hippocratic Oath (Google and Wikipedia are your friends) of Greece in the late 5th century B.C. apparently deemed it necessary that medical doctors of that pagan era forego involvement in abortion. Abortionists were convicted at the Nuremberg trials of their abortions as "crimes against humanity" showing that Hippocrates' common sense still prevailed in the late 1940s before the world went nuts for baby-killing.

42 posted on 09/04/2012 1:32:48 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline/Tomas de Torquemada Gentleman's Society: Roast 'em!)
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To: bronxville

They do abortions in people’s bedrooms now?

We don’t want to control people’s bedrooms, we want to prevent people murdering other people.


43 posted on 09/04/2012 1:38:23 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: philly-d-kidder; Gene Eric; dfwgator; Kickass Conservative; GeronL
Philly-D-Kidder:

Likewise, let's see the source for your claim that Dr, Nathanson "revealed he Made up stories about women dying from Coat hanger abortions for Dramatic effect."

44 posted on 09/04/2012 1:44:57 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline/Tomas de Torquemada Gentleman's Society: Roast 'em!)
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To: BlackElk

bump


45 posted on 09/04/2012 2:05:13 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: bronxville
“They’re going to go somewhere to end the pregnancy if they can afford it,” Perdue said. “But for poor women you’ll be back to the days of coat hangers in the bathtub and you’ll see women die. No, choice is a huge issue. I”m old enough to think that war was fought.”

All this time I thought that it was coat hangers in the back alley, not the bathtub. Perdue must be making this up!

Unfortunately for Perdue, the very simple truth of the matter is that life begins at the moment of conception. Weasel wording by lawyers does not change that basic scientific fact.

Perdue should be truthful and put forth a law that gives women the right to murder their children, rather than continue to lie. Democrats are doing all they can to help poor women kill their children. Today we have 55 million dead children, one heart stopped, one heart was broken. That "war" was not fought as Perdue claims; she is on the wrong side of the truth.

46 posted on 09/04/2012 3:12:24 AM PDT by olezip
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To: bronxville
Demonstrates that firearms are not the only tools used to commit murder.
47 posted on 09/04/2012 3:31:39 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Who needs Michelle? The MSM keep Obama satisfied.")
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To: bronxville

Why are they so picky about the way they want to butcher babies? Doesn’t make sense to me.


48 posted on 09/04/2012 4:09:22 AM PDT by Pecos (Double tap: the only acceptable gun control)
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To: Pecos

Coat hangers is code for butchering women.


49 posted on 09/04/2012 4:14:26 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: bronxville
NC Gov. Perdue warns of ‘coat hangers in the bath tub’ if pro-life movement gets its way

Versus ~53,000,000 deaths of unborn babies and sometimes the mothers if the pro-abortion movement gets its way? Oh, wait, they've gotten their way. The total number of murders from any cause, excluding abortions, since 1968 is about 800,000, including both genders as perpetrators. So the pro-abortion movement has been responsible for 66 times more homicides over four decades. The Democrats talk about a war on women. They're using the wrong preposition. Total number of casualties of combatants in WWI was under 10,000,000. For WWII it was between 20-25,000,000. This was the total of both enemy and friendly combatants. Abortion in the United States alone has resulted in a number of "enemy" deaths that vastly exceeds the totals for all military combatants in both world wars. Opposition to abortion is a war ON women? Please. Pro-abortion is better termed the war BY women on the succeeding generation.
50 posted on 09/04/2012 5:05:24 AM PDT by aruanan
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