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Inside the US consulate in Benghazi: material and human damage laid bare
guardian.co.uk ^ | sept 13, 2012 | Chris Stephen

Posted on 09/13/2012 6:45:11 PM PDT by plain talk

The bullet holes, smashed masonry and blood on the walls of the burned-out consulate on the southern outskirts of Benghazi are testament to the gun battle that raged through the building, claiming four lives including that of the US ambassador, Chris Stevens.

As the owners of the damaged building and the accommodation block a mile down the road took the Guardian on a tour of the sites on Thursday, reports that the attack was the work of an isolated group seemed to be at odds with the physical evidence and what their staff had told them.

"Better security would not have stopped this," said Adel Ibrahim, the owner of the accommodation building where blood is now spattered beneath a hole smashed in a wall by a heavy projectile. "A security unit is fine if you are facing 10 persons, but there were 400 attackers. [The Americans] would have needed an army to stop them."

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: 911ii; benghazi; carterisobama; emptychair; foreignpolicy; libya; murder; obamaiscarter; obamaisclinton; obamunism; statedept

1 posted on 09/13/2012 6:45:19 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: plain talk

Arab Spring fever.


2 posted on 09/13/2012 6:47:13 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: plain talk

“There is also unease about how America will react. It has not had an ambassador killed since 1979, and President Barack Obama’s vow that “justice will be served” has fuelled rumours that US marines now deployed in Tripoli will head to Benghazi and take action.”

That’s a silly worry - if only they knew Dumb’O the way we know Dumb’O.


3 posted on 09/13/2012 6:54:34 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: plain talk
Better security would not have stopped this but 48 hours notice would probably have.
4 posted on 09/13/2012 6:54:34 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: plain talk

I don’t buy this version, he is narrating as he if he was everywhere during whole ciaos. I think he is looking for replacement of his lost property.


5 posted on 09/13/2012 6:57:10 PM PDT by jennychase
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To: aquila48

Barack Obama’s vow that “justice will be served” has fuelled rumours that US marines now deployed in Tripoli will head to Benghazi and take action.”


Actually, it means Obama will bankrupt a few more privately owned American businesses.


6 posted on 09/13/2012 6:58:08 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (If there is a war on women, the Kennedys are the Spec Ops troops.)
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To: plain talk

>> testament to the gun battle that raged through the building,

Anger over the film my ass. This was a planned terrorist attack!!!


7 posted on 09/13/2012 7:02:53 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Slyfox

Even without notice two marines that are properly armed could have wiped out a lot of Libyans. Once the bullets started flying most in the mob would have turned and ran. so I don’t believe this. Yes two Marines can stop 400 people in a mob - especially if they are in a compound. Perhaps the end result would have been the same but at least there would have been a bunch of dead Libyans and an honorable end - like the Alamo.


8 posted on 09/13/2012 7:06:51 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

Who is responsible for putting the U.S. Ambassador in such a situation without adequate security?


9 posted on 09/13/2012 7:09:26 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: plain talk
Even without notice two marines that are properly armed could have wiped out a lot of Libyans. Once the bullets started flying most in the mob would have turned and ran. so I don’t believe this. Yes two Marines can stop 400 people in a mob - especially if they are in a compound. Perhaps the end result would have been the same but at least there would have been a bunch of dead Libyans and an honorable end - like the Alamo.

Did the rules of engagement permit the Marines to have ammunition?

10 posted on 09/13/2012 7:11:24 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: plain talk
“A security unit is fine if you are facing 10 persons, but there were 400 attackers. [The Americans] would have needed an army to stop them.”

BS... a squad of Marines has more fire power that a company in Vietnam, I have witnessed it and it is an awesome sight !!!.
All they will ever require is a “Weapons Free” command !!!

12 posted on 09/13/2012 7:31:23 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: tomkat
"Mods .. not sure about these pics re 'the list'"

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Thanks.

13 posted on 09/13/2012 7:34:30 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Who is responsible for putting the U.S. Ambassador in such a situation without adequate security?

That was MY first question!

14 posted on 09/13/2012 7:38:18 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: jennychase

you prefer Obama’s version?
and how does property affect his story?
the damage done, is the same,
where it was 10 attackers, or 400.


15 posted on 09/13/2012 7:41:17 PM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Admin Moderator
Ok, thanks

sigh

16 posted on 09/13/2012 7:41:53 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: aposiopetic
Ounce again we have to go to an overseas media to get some truth. Our media in centralized into just a few sources that all speak with the same voice as shown by their coordination when they attacked Rhomny 2 days ago.
17 posted on 09/13/2012 7:47:37 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again")
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To: plain talk

“Even without notice two marines that are properly armed could have wiped out a lot of Libyans.”

True if they’re allowed to have live ammo and if the “Rules of Engagement” says that they can use that ammo.


18 posted on 09/13/2012 7:51:16 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again")
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To: aquila48

“It has not had an ambassador killed since 1979....”

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And never has it had an ambassador raped. Will this fact make any difference in Bambi’s response, if any?


19 posted on 09/13/2012 7:54:38 PM PDT by 353FMG (The US Constitution is only as good as those who enforce it.)
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To: aquila48

I believe in the Marines, but would be happier if there were more than 50 of them, and if I knew they were permitted to carry live ammo.

What does that make me?

A doubting grandma?


20 posted on 09/13/2012 7:56:23 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Bush’ fault.


21 posted on 09/13/2012 7:58:00 PM PDT by 353FMG (The US Constitution is only as good as those who enforce it.)
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To: Gene Eric

you are right. anybody that thinks that this was over an obscure film is stupid.

this administration adds 1 plus 1 together and it adds up to an apology. then they blame free speech.

anyone with a flicker of intelligence would know it was planned, especially on the anniversary of 9/11.

therefore i conclude that this administration, the secretary of state and the rat party all stupid and gullible beyond belief.

insanity in charge.

Blessings, bobo


22 posted on 09/13/2012 7:59:32 PM PDT by bobo1
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To: Gene Eric

The speed to which Clinton and Obama seized upon this 14 minute Youtube vinyette informs me that there is something which they do not want us to look into. Talk about shooting first and aiming later! Then the retpetative rat-tat-tat of the MSM is only confirming suspicion that there is much more we do not know about their malfeasance. They are trying to screw the lid down tightly, but this will not hold for long. The war cry, “We are all Osama, Obama!” cannot be put in a jar. It is out there. Now we shall see if the MSM has any self-respect at all.


23 posted on 09/13/2012 8:02:01 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (<)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

that is the job of the secretary of state, whom is under the executive office (obama). that is the obamanation and hitlery . they are directly responsible.

blessings, bobo


24 posted on 09/13/2012 8:02:20 PM PDT by bobo1
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To: The_Media_never_lie

that is the job of the secretary of state, whom is under the executive office (obama). that is the obamanation and hitlery . they are directly responsible.

blessings, bobo


25 posted on 09/13/2012 8:02:30 PM PDT by bobo1
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To: plain talk

50 Marines locked and loaded with grenade launchers and 3-4 SAW’s would have made mincemeat out of those attackers. Oh wait I forgot they aren’t allowed to have live ammo. Nevermind.


26 posted on 09/13/2012 8:10:08 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: plain talk

Arab Spring = Autumn Fall (Fail)


27 posted on 09/13/2012 8:20:15 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

That would be Secretary of State... hillary clinton.

LLS


28 posted on 09/13/2012 8:30:52 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("if it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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To: plain talk

As far as I know, there weren’t any Marines there at the time. Libya was providing security/police presence. The Marines or former SEALS came later after they (8 total) flew into Benghazi to help extricate the trapped consulate staff from the safe house (which wasn’t so safe). The group of eight teamed up with some Libyan group to get them to safety but all of them were immediately attacked. Somehow the thugs who attacked the embassy had access to the location of the safe house that the consular staff had escaped to. That second location was where the two Marines (or SEALS) were killed, I believe.


29 posted on 09/13/2012 8:53:35 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: Texas Songwriter

Makes me think of TWA800 and how fast we had an explanation for it. That happened during an election year. Clinton was able to look presidential.


30 posted on 09/13/2012 9:01:02 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: plain talk
In the interest of putting our enemies off foot the following question needs to be asked:

"Did we have Korans in the consulate? I.e., did their mob burn our Korans?"

Given that the purpose of a consulate is providing an interface with the host country, and the nature of that country, we should have had Koran(s) in it. Many Obama supporters would be furious if we hadn't. Just as we should have a bible in (cough) Tel Aviv. We can't understand their laws without it. The building is a burnt out ruin. Korans are, famously, flammable. Koran burning is a crime mandating multiple executions in response. Or is it?

31 posted on 09/13/2012 9:36:29 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

I would say the SOS but she ranting and raving about Romney and deflecting her responsibility to protect her people.

These people are over their heads. The debate should rage on to show everyone what a light wt president we have.

I pray that no more Americans are killed, but I relish a take over of our embassies elsewhere, then we sit back and watch Dumbo spin in the wind...with indecision.


32 posted on 09/14/2012 4:45:21 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: plain talk
Go to this link for pictures, you will not see in our left wing media: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2202979/Benghazi-attack-U-S-consulate-pictured-Libyan-attack-revealed-officials-knew-attack-plans-48-HOURS-before.html

Thanks to dead for this reality:

Carter is Obama. Obama is Carter.

Both are Traitor Losers, who hate America!

Jimmy Carter's presidency was doomed by the Iranian hostage crisis after the US embassy in Tehran was stormed by Islamist extremists following the Iranian revolution.

A year after the 52 Americans were taken hostage, Carter lost the 1980 election. The hostages were released just as President Ronald Reagan, who defeated Carter, was sworn in.

1979

2012


As Clint noted, the Empty Chair improved by codetoad:

It is past time to fire Barack and have him hit the road back to Chicago!

Thanks to RushIsMyTeddyBear and Focault's Pendulum and for finding these morphing graphic art realities

33 posted on 09/14/2012 9:24:53 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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