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Zogby: Romney running worse than McCain in '08
Newsmax ^ | 9/13/2012 | John Zogby

Posted on 09/16/2012 12:02:47 PM PDT by Siegfried X

Zogby: Romney Running Worse Than McCain in ‘08 Thursday, 13 Sep 2012 06:05 PM

President Barack Obama received a surprisingly strong bounce after the Democratic National Convention, and now leads GOP challenger Mitt Romney by nearly 6 points according to a new JZ Analytics poll.

The national poll of likely voters shows Obama leading 47.7 percent to 42 percent, and indicates that Romney is not polling well enough among some conservative demographic groups: NASCAR fans, evangelicals, and the so-called “Walmart voters.”

According to JZ Analytics pollster John Zogby, Romney is in a somewhat worse position than GOP nominee Sen. John McCain was at this point in the 2008 campaign...

In a possible indication that Romney has yet to seal the deal with the GOP base, Zogby reports lackluster poll numbers among NASCAR voters, evangelicals, and frequent Walmart patrons -- groups that tend to be reliably conservative.

Romney leads Obama 48.4 to 44.6 percent among voters who shop weekly at Walmart. He [Romney] narrowly trails Obama among self-identified NASCAR fans, 44 percent to 43 percent.

“That’s a number you would never expect to see,” comments Zogby.

Among “born again” voters, Romney leads Obama by 57 percent to 32 percent. That compares to the 73 percent of evangelical/”born again” voters McCain carried in 2008, according to the Pew Center on Religion and Public Life...

Zogby also describes Obama’s numbers as “anemic” among 18 to 29 year-olds. Only 53 percent of those younger voters said they would vote for Obama over Romney -- some 13 points less than Obama’s advantage among that demographic in 2008 against GOP standard bearer Sen. John McCain...

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 2012electionbias; 2012polls; goebbelswouldbeproud; stalinisttactics; yellowjournalism; zogby; zogbyism; zogbypoll; zogbysspecialsauce
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Very interesting breakouts on this Zogby poll. Obama is losing the young, with a lot fewer than against McCain.

Yet Romney is doing much worse than McCain among evangelicals, and is even behind Obama with NASCAR fans!

If this is true, and Zogby has always been a fair pollster, it seems to mean that a lot of conseratives still have doubts about Romney.

1 posted on 09/16/2012 12:02:50 PM PDT by Siegfried X
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To: Siegfried X

So says the maker of Zog’s Special Sauce who tried to cook the books and depress voter turnout for Bush.


2 posted on 09/16/2012 12:05:23 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: Siegfried X

Zogby is a moron, a leftist and the worst pollster of the last few cycles. Other than that a great Arab-American.


3 posted on 09/16/2012 12:05:56 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (.)
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To: Siegfried X

He [Romney] narrowly trails Obama among self-identified NASCAR fans, 44 percent to 43 percent.

I can not believe this poll after reading that.


4 posted on 09/16/2012 12:06:06 PM PDT by barmag25
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To: Siegfried X

He’s running in the wrong direction.

He always has run in the wrong direction.


5 posted on 09/16/2012 12:06:40 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: Siegfried X
My recollection is that McCain was running pretty well (largely due to a big boost from Palin) right up until the big September financial panic.

My feeling on Romney is that he has been playing it too safe, and running badly (with minimal boost from Ryan) and now we have a big foreign affairs crisis.

I see things going Obama's way. Again.

6 posted on 09/16/2012 12:07:49 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (ua)
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To: Siegfried X

No he not. The notion that Obama is doing better in 2012 then he was in 2008 is disprove in EVERY poll. This is pure Obot spin from Obama.


7 posted on 09/16/2012 12:13:30 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Siegfried X
AHHHH excuse me, but isn't Zogby the pollster related that that muslim idiot brother who was caught on tape by Fox News at the DNC convention walking out after the voting against God and Israel took place? HE LOOKED PISSED AFTER THE YEA's won....ENUFF said!! Zogby is a muslim and a muslim brotherhood sympathizer!
8 posted on 09/16/2012 12:13:30 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Siegfried X
I'll simply just say this, the only poll that counts will be on Nov. 6th.

All of this psy op crap can go straight to hell.

If we lose this election, this Country is over.

Vote!

9 posted on 09/16/2012 12:13:54 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Repost

Zogby is not a Pollster anymore

See top 20 in 2008 best Pollsters in Presidential Election he not even listed

10 posted on 09/16/2012 12:13:54 PM PDT by scooby321 (AMS)
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To: Siegfried X

I’m beginning to believe that NewsMax got the memo from the lib organizations in DC.


11 posted on 09/16/2012 12:14:16 PM PDT by Hero
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To: Siegfried X

I’m beginning to believe that NewsMax got the memo from the lib organizations in DC.


12 posted on 09/16/2012 12:14:24 PM PDT by Hero
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To: Siegfried X

It’s obvious Obama got a solid convention bounce (which is fading) and is probably still leading by a couple points, but I wouldn’t believe much Zogby has to say. Zogby is the guy who announced Kerry the winner of the 2004 election on his website, only to have to retract it and issue an apology/explanation for how he could be so wrong. I do believe Romney is struggling with some evangelicals because he is a Mormon, but I don’t believe any pollster that claims he is losing NASCAR viewers to Obama. Also, Zogby has been reduced to doing a bunch of online interactive polling which is not accurate enough to be included in RCP polling averages.


13 posted on 09/16/2012 12:14:32 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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Zogby is clown pollster who did not make the top 20 of accuracy in the poll review in 2008

1. Rasmussen (11/1-3)**
1. Pew (10/29-11/1)**
2. YouGov/Polimetrix (10/18-11/1)
3. Harris Interactive (10/20-27)
4. GWU (Lake/Tarrance) (11/2-3)*
5. Diageo/Hotline (10/31-11/2)*
5. ARG (10/25-27)*
6. CNN (10/30-11/1)
6. Ipsos/McClatchy (10/30-11/1)
7. DailyKos.com (D)/Research 2000 (11/1-3)
8. AP/Yahoo/KN (10/17-27)
9. Democracy Corps (D) (10/30-11/2)
10. FOX (11/1-2)
11. Economist/YouGov (10/25-27)
12. IBD/TIPP (11/1-3)
13. NBC/WSJ (11/1-2)
14. ABC/Post (10/30-11/2)
15. Marist College (11/3)
16. CBS (10/31-11/2)
17. Gallup (10/31-11/2)
18. Reuters/ C-SPAN/ Zogby (10/31-11/3)
19. CBS/Times (10/25-29)
20. Newsweek (10/22-23)


14 posted on 09/16/2012 12:15:06 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Siegfried X

And I should have added, WHY are you posting this crap?


15 posted on 09/16/2012 12:15:16 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I see things going Obama's way. Again.

Then you are not bothering to look

16 posted on 09/16/2012 12:16:21 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Siegfried X
If this is true, and Zogby has always been a fair pollster,

Wrong.

Back as far as the year 2000, it was yours truly, who coined the term Zogby's Special Sauce.

17 posted on 09/16/2012 12:17:15 PM PDT by Lazamataz (RAGE MONKEY RULEZ!!!)
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To: Siegfried X

McCain was not poor, but I suspect that Romney being soooo rich and also his Bain work which doesn’t sound so good to a lot of working people may hurt. There are no doubt many evangelicals and working man/NASCAR fans who have heard the one about going through the eye of a needle. They may stay home on election day.


18 posted on 09/16/2012 12:17:29 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Siegfried X

f this is true, and Zogby has always been a fair pollster...

Give us a break !


19 posted on 09/16/2012 12:19:20 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: barmag25; All

In polling terms, 13% undecided is a sizable number.


20 posted on 09/16/2012 12:19:47 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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