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After Foisting Romney on Base, GOP Elites Now Start to Gripe
realclearpolitics.com ^ | September 24, 2012 | Benjamin Domenech

Posted on 09/24/2012 7:05:17 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: ynotjjr

He will win this and will lead our Country to greatness and prosperity!
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Beloved I wish above all else that you prosper AS YOURE SOUL PROSPERS...3 John 1:2


81 posted on 09/25/2012 8:10:47 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: xkaydet65
Read a book yourself. I was there when Ronald Reagan fought the Establishment in 1976 and lost -- I was in the Louisiana district convention when the Ford people -- the Establishment -- ran their con about sending an "unpledged" or "uncommitted" slate to the national convention. Of course the "unpledged" delegates voted, to a man, for Gerald Ford. So teach your grandmother.

Did powerful conservatives somehow convince all 7 to run so Reagan could grab the nomination? No.

And if the current group that ran this year are so easily manipulated how could any of them merit support?

Precisely. I said it was a mistake for most of them to jump in.

Gingrich and Palin were the only serious alternatives to Romney and the Establishment/GOP-e. The others just screwed things up, and it is highly significant that Ed Rollins showed up in Michele Bachmann's organization, and as soon as he could, went out and trashed Sarah Palin, who hadn't even declared.

Rick Perry said publicly that he wasn't going to run -- but then someone in the Establishment whispered sweet nothings in his ear, and he jumped in. Bad move. Rick was so pwned it even stopped being funny.

82 posted on 09/25/2012 8:19:51 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: livius
Will Romney’s appointments be any better? Well, they can’t be worse....

I lost a much better post in reply to the notorious Bill Gates and his insidious Java-massaging Old Browser Kneecappers, so this will have to do.

Both Supreme Court and Executive Branch appointments by our esteemed GOP-e administrations of the past are nothing to brag about or rely on. Think of Nixon's WH staff, and Supremes Souter, Stevens, Kennedy, O'Connor, and Earl Warren, who was an Eisenhower appointee.

83 posted on 09/25/2012 8:47:22 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus
Both Supreme Court and Executive Branch appointments by our esteemed GOP-e administrations of the past are nothing to brag about or rely on. Think of Nixon's WH staff, and Supremes Souter, Stevens, Kennedy, O'Connor, and Earl Warren, who was an Eisenhower appointee.

These days, I'm having a hard enough time stomaching John Roberts.

84 posted on 09/25/2012 8:58:41 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Conservatism is not a matter of convenience.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

And Palin who, boosted candidates and then cut them off at the knees by her favorite du jour actions is the only conservative to have a chance. She punked out. After her Madison speech in 2011 she would have had only Romney to contend with. She’d have sucked the oxygen from any other conservative challengers. Yet she stayed home. As for candidates who could have challenged, your governor who by beliefs, performance, and personally challenging Obama face to face should have run, but he received little support from the Right who held his TV performance in 2009 against him. In the end Romney is all there was and is, and blaming it on some dark cabal whatever the name, is meaningless.


85 posted on 09/25/2012 9:16:04 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: conservative sympathizer

Exactly what I’ve been trying to say for months. I remember surfing FR during the primaries, both now and in 2008. People loved their pet candidates so much and trashed all the others on the basis of one or two ideological points that by the time the primaries were over, Romney (Or in 2008, McCain) was the only one left. Not because he was a GOOD candidate, but instead because all the more conservative candidates had been sabotaged by the ‘true conservatives’ who had deemed them not pure enough and refused to rally behind them.

Meanwhile, Romney was riding under the radar the whole time. Oh, sure, no one liked him, but we were so busy trashing Cain, Perry, Santorum, and Newt for not catering to our pet projects that we didn’t realize that Romney was soaring to victory on the updrafts of all our hot air.

Well, now we’re stuck with Romney. And now those same ‘true conservatives’ who GAVE him to us on the grounds of ideological purity are trying to give us Obama on the grounds of ideological purity.


86 posted on 09/25/2012 9:27:30 AM PDT by Luircin (Don't like Romney? Blame the conservative circular firing squad.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Be gone heathen, you and your Obamaites with be out with the trash soon enough. You wouldn’t know a good man if he was saving your life.


87 posted on 09/25/2012 9:30:52 AM PDT by ynotjjr (Romney/Ryan 2012 It's called the Constitution. Learn it, live it, love it!)
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To: af_vet_rr

The elites loved Romney, and I’ll bet that they ADORED the conservative purity tests that we were giving to all the more conservative candidates on the ballot. I remember far too well how we Freepers were trashing Perry on the border, and Cain on the tax plan, and Newt on his personal life. We were so busy trashing those who disagreed with us 15% of the time that we ended up with someone who only agreed with us 50% of the time.

And now, in the same way, we’re going to give up someone who agrees with us maybe 50% of the time in favor of someone who agrees 0% of the time.


88 posted on 09/25/2012 9:31:35 AM PDT by Luircin (Don't like Romney? Blame the conservative circular firing squad.)
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To: ynotjjr

Kid I wouldent care if the town drunk saved my life...

I just doubt that Willard would show up...


89 posted on 09/25/2012 11:29:59 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Luircin

50% of the time? Dream on, LOL.


90 posted on 09/25/2012 1:50:56 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: livius; goldstategop; lentulusgracchus; Jim Noble; iowamark; Iowa Granny; Jim Robinson
This has been very hard for me, too, because of all the candidates, he was the one I least wanted, and it’s still hard for me to believe that he got in. And all the liabilities he had are still a problem: no plan, no vision, liberal, not very articulate, yet at the same time unwilling to let anyone else make the case for why Obama must be evicted from our White House. However, he is what we have, and the important thing is to throw out Obama.

Here, here or is it hear, hear? (Maybe it depends on context.) Conservatives can probably afford to throw away their votes in places like California where the electoral votes are winner take all, if it still is that way in California. IIRC, only Iowa and Maine apportion electoral votes by Congressional District. Any corrections are always apppreciated.

With the exception of Reagan, the GOPe has managed to pick turkeys since Nixon. Open primaries combined with light primary turnouts don't help, but that's a problem for the future. We're stuck with Romney for the time being. Comparing Obama to Carter doesn't do him justice. He ranks with LBJ in the damage he's done to this country domestically and in foreign affairs. In November, Romney should get a lot of help from Jacksonian Democrats because of the Obama administration's environmental and energy policies and libertarians horrified by its fiscal and foreign policies.

That said, if Romney loses, even if the GOP takes the Senate and holds the House, unless the Tea Party movement takes over the GOP, I'd be willing to consider a new third party. The GOPe has screwed this pooch.

91 posted on 09/25/2012 2:10:48 PM PDT by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: xkaydet65
And Palin who, boosted candidates and then cut them off at the knees by her favorite du jour actions is the only conservative to have a chance. She punked out....

It isn't punking out if some ***hole drained the swimming pool.

And who did she "cut off at the knees"?

Something tells me, you would dislike her anyway whether she ran or didn't run -- I'm smelling urban liberal prejudice here. What's the matter -- did she forget to pick up her MA degree from Colby College? Radcliffe? Smith? Would she be more pleasing if she vogued like a Vassar girl or moued like a Cliffie? Or maybe drove a Bimmer with a discreet little Georgetown Law parking sticker in the quarter-light?

In the end Romney is all there was and is, ....

Oh, so now he's your Alpha and your Omega! Sorry, didn't realize you had been communing with godhead!

...and blaming it on some dark cabal whatever the name, is meaningless.

No, it's very meaningful if there is a dark cabal. And there is a dark cabal. Thanks for playing.

92 posted on 09/25/2012 2:41:33 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

Jesuit educated HS and college not Ivies. Working class roots not upper east side. And after giving that speech in Madison and not even trying to run, you bet she punked out.
And as for alpha and omega, no Mitt is not Christ. But if you really think there will be anything left to conserve after four more years of Obama you’re not playing a fool, you are a fool.


93 posted on 09/25/2012 2:59:23 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: af_vet_rr

Fine, fine, whatever. I’m just saying that if we want to find someone to blame for Romney, we should first go and look in the mirror. This is what happens when we let the perfect become an enemy of the good.


94 posted on 09/25/2012 3:11:41 PM PDT by Luircin (Don't like Romney? Blame the conservative circular firing squad.)
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To: estrogen

That Obamaite from UT with the penetrating eyes was my last choice, then Romney. But now we must coalesce behind Romney. It’s Important. But he may just be trying to outperform McPain’s performance. He’s already holding back Ryan, the way McPain did Palin.


95 posted on 09/25/2012 3:43:32 PM PDT by Theodore R. ( Who among us has not erred? Akin's the One!)
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To: xkaydet65
And after giving that speech in Madison and not even trying to run, you bet she punked out.

You didn't answer my most cogent charge, that you wouldn't like her anyway for cultural-affinity reasons and are looking for dead skunks to throw at her.

And as for the race/no-race decision, billionaires with rectums of capacious diameter took a dump in the soup to poison it for everyone but themselves. They did a good job -- Rollins going out and piking Palin, Romney's people sticking knitting needles in both women and Perry too, the press -- the East Coast press -- doing everything they could think of, with your resident East Coast Irish princesses Peggy and MoDo helping them out with flamethower jobs on the uncool girl from Moose Jaw.

Yeah, it was a cluster****, not a campaign. Sometimes the real answer is, it can't be done. No more than FDR could have won the German chancellorship in 1933, to use a fair analogy.

You wanted her to jump in, fail, and get smeared from here to hell and back by Karl Rove and his media orcs. That was your fond hope for her -- this is what the hair on the back of my neck is telling me. But rock on, dude. Conservatives everywhere are glad they met you.

96 posted on 09/25/2012 6:19:47 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

And listen to your wife, the fighter.


97 posted on 09/26/2012 10:54:54 PM PDT by des
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To: muawiyah
The media lusts for the likes of wjc. I prefer grown up men or women in the presidency. I like Mitt.
98 posted on 09/27/2012 12:37:29 AM PDT by des
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