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Will An Obama Victory Spark A Civil War In The US?
The Western Center for Journalism ^ | September 29, 2012 | Lawrence Sellin, Ph.D.

Posted on 09/30/2012 11:35:07 AM PDT by Brandonmark

America is on the verge of fragmentation and civil conflict because its citizens have lost control of their government and lost faith in its political institutions.

Nineteenth century political satirist Ambrose Bierce once described Washington D.C. as a strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles and the conduct of public affairs for private advantage.

Indeed. Not much has changed one hundred years on.

The August 27, 2012 Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that just eight percent (8%) of likely voters think that the US Congress is doing a good job.

Most Americans agree that the Democrat and Republican establishments are infested by individuals whose allegiance is not to their country, but to themselves and their political party. Their aim is to be unconstrained by the Constitution and the rule of law and unaccountable to the American people. Their conduct is driven by political expediency and winning elections for the sole purpose of obtaining power and profit.

The US has elections, but it no longer has representative government. The US has a free press, but one that is partisan and dishonest.

(Excerpt) Read more at westernjournalism.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bhofascism; civilwar; cw2; cwii; election; election2012; elections; guncontrol; nobama2012; obama; socialistdemocrats
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To: China Clipper
(puzzled look) So you walk to get the internet at the local library/B&N/Coffee house every time you want to "browse the 'net?"

Wow....


How's life in the cave?

121 posted on 09/30/2012 3:44:41 PM PDT by Tuanedge (The Buffalo hates the Tiger, but the Tiger loves the Buffalo.)
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To: Brandonmark

I am more concerned about an Obama DEFEAT sparking a civil war post-election.


122 posted on 09/30/2012 3:50:18 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: Brandonmark
>>citizens have lost control of their government<<

Now that's an understatement.

These people up in our government have forgotten they are elected SERVANTS of the people.

The president and congress act as if they are royalty. Showering themselves with perks and privilege.

I for one am sick of it. Civil war? Revolution? Civil unrest?

Not sure what's going to happen, but I do know one thing for an absolute fact. Americans are a free people, if the government continues to strip us of our liberties and freedoms, folks will remove them.

123 posted on 09/30/2012 3:57:39 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: SVTCobra03

Our only hope is secession. We need to form a new country from the states of Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Florida.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

If there is secession, the ‘rats who live in such states that do must be forciby relocated out of this ‘new’ country in order to assure that they never overrun us again.


124 posted on 09/30/2012 4:34:28 PM PDT by AlexisHeavyMetal1981 (x)
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To: Brandonmark

The short answer is no. The long answer is...probably not. Americans will see what kind of a Dem succeeds Obama as prez candidate. But if the candidate succeeding Obama (it won’t be Biden) proves to be as radical, and defeats the Pubbie in 2016, (Rubio, Jindal, or Walker), we’re going to have a lot more very unhappy people. But no violent revolution.


125 posted on 09/30/2012 4:39:03 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: Brandonmark

Civil war from the content, complacent, uninformed populace glued to their idiot boxes for an exciting new season of Americans Idle and Dancing with the Has Been Stars? You’re kidding, right?


126 posted on 09/30/2012 4:43:57 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Brandonmark; All
We have absolutely no idea how another civil war or revolution will end.


The pain you feel today is the strength you'll have tomorrow.

127 posted on 09/30/2012 5:00:30 PM PDT by rdb3 (Democrats: Once a slave owner, ALWAYS a slave owner!)
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To: snippy_about_it

Do it like Ghandi did, call on the ministers to call for a week of prayer and fasting, if people stay home for that so much the better!


128 posted on 09/30/2012 5:03:38 PM PDT by qman (The communist usurper must go!)
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To: Old Sarge

Funny!


129 posted on 09/30/2012 5:09:52 PM PDT by krunkygirl (force multiplier in effect...)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
"If BHO wins the election which I don’t think he has a ghost of a chance of doing then we will probably see a civil war but not civilians in the streets. The states will start to go their own way and nullify the Feds. Its a lot smarter way to go."

This is how I see it too.

130 posted on 09/30/2012 5:16:06 PM PDT by Mich Patriot (BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: Brandonmark; stylecouncilor; windcliff

What would Shelby Foote have done?


131 posted on 09/30/2012 5:20:30 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Brandonmark
American Gun Owners Buy 14 Million Plus Guns In 2009 – More Than 21x the Worlds Standing Armies Combined

and then two years later during the same lingering recession:

Free Americans Buy 10,800,000+ Guns in 2011

Assuming another ~10M guns were purchased in 2010, that's over 30 million guns purchased by "bitterly clinging" Americans since Team Soetoro "occupied" the White House (pun intended).

Pretty obvious who the winners of R2/CW2 are going to be.

132 posted on 09/30/2012 5:24:38 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: GBA
The real issue of the 2012 election is the endemic corruption in the federal government perpetrated by a permanent political class, financed by crony capitalism and facilitated by a fawning media (“It’s the corruption, stupid”).

That's definitely the reality, the issue is how to defeat those who created it, are dependent upon it and all others dedicated to defending it.

For not much longer, that side still doesn't have the winning hand, but the right/wrong "crisis" could change that just long enough to make it permanent, at least for my lifetime.

133 posted on 09/30/2012 5:39:22 PM PDT by GBA (The line is drawn, two choices left: We must pull back from the line or be forced to cross it.)
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To: mo

“Hmmmm ....makes one wonder about those 12 million give away phones...and just what might be texted on election night!”

I needs another jumbo bag of chips. Where’s my gallon bottle of Coke? What time is American Idol tonight? Has obama paid the electric bill yet? Take that EBT card and buy me another chocolate cake.


134 posted on 09/30/2012 5:39:57 PM PDT by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: mnehring

Exactly.
This election will display the innate character of citzens of the USA. The corruption of our Constitution is being ALLOWED by the majority of voters who vote for largess.


135 posted on 09/30/2012 5:40:15 PM PDT by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: AlexisHeavyMetal1981
"If there is secession, the ‘rats who live in such states that do must be forciby relocated out of this ‘new’ country in order to assure that they never overrun us again."

Not exactly...when the new 'free states' adopt their constitutions outlawing every type of welfare ever created, the rats will relocate themselves, or suddenly become productive and STFU.

136 posted on 09/30/2012 5:51:38 PM PDT by Mich Patriot (BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: combat_boots

The obamaphone people will riot once their plastic ebt cards stop working. and they will... eventually.
i cant wrap my head around what this will look like. the LA riots will look like nothing compared to whats coming.
of this i am convinced. am i the only prepper who is feeling that ‘this is it’.
i am in over drive in preparing. more than i ever have been.
I pray God has mercy on us. I feel thext 1 to 2 years are going to be horrific.


137 posted on 09/30/2012 5:58:30 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: DTogo

I am assuming this count does not include private sales.


138 posted on 09/30/2012 6:01:45 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: Revolting cat!
Civil war from the content, complacent, uninformed populace glued to their idiot boxes for an exciting new season of Americans Idle and Dancing with the Has Been Stars? You’re kidding, right

How right you are...unfortunately there are a lot of "fantasy road warriors" who think they're ready for Armageddon, yet can't seem to ditch their liberal indoctrination device (TV) and think leaving their kids in the hands of liberal re-educators is an acceptable loss.

If patriots can't ditch mainstream media and public schools, they might as well raise the white flag now... they're drones already.

139 posted on 09/30/2012 6:08:14 PM PDT by Tuanedge (The Buffalo hates the Tiger, but the Tiger loves the Buffalo.)
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To: radpolis
There is no Galt, there is nowhere left for the producers to hide. There are more socialist/communist/fascist countries on the planet now than there are republics or democracies. Every one of them want a piece of you and your wealth or capabilities. The takers now have the ability to reach across continents and drag you back into their little piece of hell they call home. Short of privately financed warfare will you be able to beat them back.
140 posted on 09/30/2012 6:12:19 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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