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Judge Rules Photo ID Won’t Be Required For Pennsylvania Voters This Year
CBS Philly ^ | 10/2/2012 | Cherri Gregg

Posted on 10/02/2012 7:38:15 AM PDT by JediJones

Judge Robert Simpson has effectively decided to block part of the law. Following his ruling, voters will still be asked for a valid voter ID at the poll. But if they don’t have it, they will still be able to cast their vote in the usual manner.

The judge suspended the portion of the law that would have required voters without valid ID to cast what is called a “provisional” ballot, which would not be counted unless the voter could produce a valid photo ID within six days after the election.

Judge Simpson says he viewed the Pennsylvania Supreme Court’s recent directive (see related story) as ordering that he sever the illegal portion of the law concerning the provisional ballots.

Today’s ruling comes just five weeks before the election (related story). An appeal is still possible.

(Excerpt) Read more at philadelphia.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; barackobama; corruption; democrats; elections; mittromney; obama; pennsylvania; votefraud; voterid
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To: PermaRag
The only surprise is that the radical leftist judge didn’t wait until 24 hours prior to election day.

No surprise. As far as the timing of his ruling is concerned, the judge did exactly what the supreme court told him to do.

21 posted on 10/02/2012 8:02:31 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Zhang Fei
This judge is apparently a GOP elected official.

Yes, he initially voted to uphold the law. The State Supreme Court sent it back to him with surreal instructions that basically said "get your mind right and find some way to reverse yourself". In hindsight maybe he should have resigned.


22 posted on 10/02/2012 8:03:00 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: MrB
There is absolutely no valid reason that votes without IDs can’t go into the provisional pile, to be counted ONLY if the margin of victory is less than the number of provisional ballots.

MrB, you are absolutely going to have to stop interjecting wisdom into this discussion. ;-)

23 posted on 10/02/2012 8:03:19 AM PDT by newheart (At what point does policy become treason?)
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To: Venturer
Okay, ALL is fair in WAR.....NO ID, no problem...TAKE ANY ONE AND EVERYONE you know who isn't registered to the polls. IF you have guest from out of town take them to vote....HELL TWO CAN PLAY THE SAME GAME!! If you can rent a van, pick up folk from the streets and take them to vote. Hell offer them a pack of cigarettes, a beer or an ex-large soda in exchange for their vote....DON'T JUST MOAN AND GROAN....TAKE ACTION AND STICK IT UP their BUTTS WHERE THE SUN DON'T SUNSHINE!!
24 posted on 10/02/2012 8:03:42 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: JediJones

Is this an open invitation to masses of ineligible/illegal voters to go to Pennsylvania to vote?

Seriously.

No ID mandate - vote in your home state, then drive up to Pennsylvania and find an organization (Leftist, I’m sure) that keeps up with old folks that don’t vote any more, or recent deaths, or ____________ (fill in the blank) and vote in someone else’s place. Further - it would be difficult to trace/investigate.

Watch for SEIU busses at the polls?


25 posted on 10/02/2012 8:07:09 AM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: JediJones

Open season for voter fraud.


26 posted on 10/02/2012 8:09:46 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: skeeter

So it would also be safe to say that an I.D. would not be required to enter this so called judges court room?


27 posted on 10/02/2012 8:11:14 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: JediJones

It doesn’t matter. In those Phila precincts with the voter fraud, the poll workers are in on it, and they’ll let people vote without ID.


28 posted on 10/02/2012 8:12:19 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: RoseofTexas
Nice thought. But registration closes 30 days before an election. An appeal is the only realistic option at this point.

The voter ID law was a booby prize, a sop to conservatives and fair minded moderates who backed the Pileggi bill to allocate Pennsylvania's electoral votes on the same basis as is done in Maine and Nebraska: 2 for the statewide winner, 1 for the winner of each congressional district.

With a solid GOP majority in both houses and a governor pledged to sign the bill once passed, the Pileggi bill would have accomplished the same thing as the voter ID bill with far less fuss and fanfare.

With only the two statewide electoral votes at stake in the most corrupt Democrat districts, there would have been far less reward for cheating making for more balanced contests down ticket as well.

The Democrats would have been unable to launch their normal corrupt legal challenges and delaying tactics for three reasons:

  1. Winner take all has been used nationwide for only one century 1864-1968 of our history.
  2. Maine has used the congressional district system since 1972, Nebraska since 1992.
  3. The Democrats gleefully competed for and won one of Nebraska's electoral votes under this method in 2008.

Gleason, our Quisling state GOP chair, opposed the Pileggi bill on the basis that the GOP would win all 20 this year given Obama's sorry record. 'So what?', should have been the obvious reply. If that happens, Pennsylvania won't make a difference anyway.

Now, Mr. Chairman, are you willing to resign in disgrace if you don't deliver what you bragged would be done one year ago when you blocked this bill?

29 posted on 10/02/2012 8:13:02 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: JediJones

Fraudulent voting is protected by Democrats and their hand-picked lackeys in robes. The judge likes the fact that Democrat precincts in Philly vote 110% straight ticket Democrat and that Whites are turned away from the polling places by Black Panthers with nightsticks.

Wouldn’t it be nice if our military were at our polling places to guarantee fair elections, and everyone had to stick their finger in indelible ink to prove that they’ve only voted once? We can do that for other countries, but not our own.


30 posted on 10/02/2012 8:13:09 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: JediJones

FARGIN BASTIGES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


31 posted on 10/02/2012 8:17:01 AM PDT by Mr. K ("The only thing the World would hate more than the USA in charge is the USA NOT in charge")
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To: Daveinyork

Insanity!


32 posted on 10/02/2012 8:21:04 AM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: MrB

Yes that’s how its done properly, with provisional ballots which get counted if the voters show they were properly cast by legitimate registered voters. Putting ballots cast by unidentified people in with the legitimately- cast ballots is like pissing in the punch bowl. It ruins the whole works .


33 posted on 10/02/2012 8:33:02 AM PDT by faithhopecharity
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This Judge wants to control this particular election....

he has been bought and paid for by Hussein thugs...they are scared...big time..

I live in Pennsylvania, was born here, returned here for retirement...biggest mistake I have ever made..well one of the biggest~~~

my area is controlled by FREE FOOD, FREE PHONES AND IGNORANCE...
we are not FREE any longer...we are controlled...


34 posted on 10/02/2012 8:35:41 AM PDT by haircutter (.)
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To: JediJones

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled a similar law in Indiana constitutional.


35 posted on 10/02/2012 8:38:27 AM PDT by popdonnelly (The first priority is get Obama out of the White House.)
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IF HUSSEIN KEEPS THE OFFICE OF PRESIDENT IT WILL BE THROUGH

FRAUD, THEIF, LIES, AND THREATS...

AND AMERICA WILL BE NO MORE.....


36 posted on 10/02/2012 8:38:49 AM PDT by haircutter (.)
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To: Wings-n-Wind

I always always always check NO for “Should Judge ____ be retained?”

Gotta figure if they’re in office long enough, they’ve compromised themselves and everyone/everything they’re judging for political gain.

And none of them ever seem to get kicked out anyway.


37 posted on 10/02/2012 8:40:16 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: All

The END MEANS couldn’t be more obvious!! Friggin stupid judge....he is getting something good for that ruling.


38 posted on 10/02/2012 8:59:10 AM PDT by Fawn (DEAR JESUS....PLEASE LET OBAMA LOSE.....AMEN.)
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To: MrB

What is the point of setting them aside if you’re just going to count them anyways? They go in the “needs to be verified” pile and they do not come out of that pile until the verification is complete.


39 posted on 10/02/2012 9:00:51 AM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: cableguymn

“Provisional” is just that - they aren’t verified and counted unless they are needed.

Usually, they won’t be. But if the margin is less than the number of provisionals, they’ll all have to be verified as valid and then counted.

Of course, the ‘rats could try to overwhelm the system by refusing to show ID and making all their votes provisional, delaying and messing up the works.


40 posted on 10/02/2012 9:05:00 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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