Posted on 10/14/2012 5:58:48 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
Pentagon Probe After Nuclear Submarine Crash
Military officials are investigating after a nuclear submarine collided with a Navy cruiser during routine operations.
The Pentagon is investigating why a Navy nuclear submarine collided with an Aegis cruiser off the East Coast.
The US Fleet Forces Command said the USS Montpelier submarine and the Aegis cruiser USS San Jacinto crashed at about 3.30pm on Saturday during routine operations.
No one was injured, and the extent of any damage to the vessels is unclear.
Both Navy ships are based at Norfolk, Virginia. The Pentagon did not say where the collision took place.
"We have had circumstances where Navy vessels have collided at sea in the past, but they're fairly rare as to how often they do take place," Lieutenant Commander Brian Badura said.
"If we do have an incident that does take place, there are folks that swing into action to help us make a better, more conclusive explanation of exactly what happened."
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Thanks for the information. Interesting. I would imagine a former officer would be a great NCO. I remember after Viet Nam guys were offered E7 jobs during the reduction in force, but I was wondering if you could be demoted to enlisted rather than being forced out or transferred to a recruiting station in Cambridge Ma.
The word "nuclear" is required because for the average MSM hack it is a synonym for "scary." Everybody knows anything "nuclear" is at any given moment only a hairsbreadth away from exploding and/or melting a hole to the center of the earth.
You should be a pollster for the AP...surely this data point you describe is indicative of all military officers and their enlisted counterparts.
I had a SSGT that had been a Capt. He was commissioned in a cadet program before finishing college in the latter days of
WW2 and was a company CO in Korean conflict, was riffed due
to lack of degree and stayed in as sgt., finished degree and remained enlisted to receive retirement. His buddy from school days in same program year behind, was in his company in Korea, but then got in aviation and avoided riff. Buddy
was assigned to our battalion as exc officer {Major}
and came in a week before existing exc was to move out. New
exc spent the week in my office with the SSGt. The exc finishing his tour had been a sgt at Ft Belvoir a 2 years before and was in the group of instructors when I was a cadet. Time1961-1965
And your snarky ad-hominem attacks combined with condescension would make you a great VP, General, or Democratic senator.
What is next? Nuclear powered sharks infesting icy waters? ;-)
There was nothing ad hominen or snarky a out my post to you. If you re-read my posts, I spoke in generalities, that military officers are supposed to be held to a higher standard than enlisted men. They are supposed to be gentlemen (and ladies, I suppose), but they are human, and are subject to imperfections. I’m sure that there are numerous instances of enlisted personnel who would be excellent officers, but in my experience, that’s USUALLY not the case. You point at outliers, and like the previous poster, insinuate that the entire military is like that.
Anyone watching that new series called “Last Resort”?
I get the feeling he is typical of the current sort of self promoter always looking for the next bit of advancement by climbing over anyone's back that is available. He had that trait I had heard about (zero defects) that when anything went wrong, first thing he did was go find someone to pin it on. I quit and retired in disgust.
Back in my day, the officers I dealt with were mostly combat pilots, and I got along fine with them. Mutual respect.
You sound like a one enlistment pain in the neck, a detriment to the morale of any outfit.
Yes! There were several RIFs (Reduction in Force) after WW II and Korea.
Back in 1963, I knew a retired USAF Full Bull Colonel B-52 Command Pilot who served his last two years or so as an E-8. He was enlisted, went through pilot training and got commissioned during WW II.
There was a provision to allow RIFFed Officers to continue on active duty so as to qualify for a 20 year retirement at their highest grade honorably held.
Don’t know if that particular “benefit” is still available to former enlisted men who accept a commission and are later RIFFed.
A career ending event!
Well, yeah, but in this case it’s obvious the boundary layer was ZERO inches thick. Those surface screws would have been audible THRU THE HULL assuming the surface ship was moving.
I have heard screws through the hull. I called emergency deep three times.
Shame on you! You are besmirching and belittling the dedicated service of thousands of officers of all branches of the Armed Services who have served honorably and well.
As in all organizations, military officers and enlisted comprise a cross section of the society, and run the gamut FRom VERY superior leaders and managers to the totally incompetent dregs who do not contribute to accomplishing the mission.
The trick for the superior officers and enlisted it to, somehow, despite all the roadblocks put in their way, to make the system work.
And, for the most part, they succeed.
Self aggrandizing politicians and civilian poobahs who have large egos and are far more dangerous to the military than are serving officers!
Out yourself and tell us who, what, how and why you came to believe as you do.
PS I double dare you to repeat your comment to LTC Allen West, USA (Ret)!
I’ve seen pilots out partying overseas. Wasn’t a gentleman in the bunch.
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