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Apple Has Quietly Started Tracking iPhone Users Again
Business Insider ^ | October 11, 2012 | Jim Edwards

Posted on 10/17/2012 6:05:41 AM PDT by Squawk 8888

Apple's launch of the iPhone 5 in September came with a bunch of new commercials to promote the device.

But Apple didn't shout quite so loud about an enhancement to its new mobile operating system, iOS 6, which also occurred in September: The company has started tracking users so that advertisers can target them again, through a new tracking technology called IFA or IDFA.

Previously, Apple had all but disabled tracking of iPhone users by advertisers when it stopped app developers from utilizing Apple mobile device data via UDID, the unique, permanent, non-deletable serial number that previously identified every Apple device.

For the last few months, iPhone users have enjoyed an unusual environment in which advertisers have been largely unable to track and target them in any meaningful way.

In iOS 6, however, tracking is most definitely back on, and it's more effective than ever, multiple mobile advertising executives familiar with IFA tell us. (Note that Apple doesn't mention IFA in its iOS 6 launch page).

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


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To: HamiltonJay

reverse engineer the product, develope a “close enough work around”, sue orignator.

or

as with the company that originally had the name “iphone”, you burry them in paperwork.


21 posted on 10/17/2012 8:17:36 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Squawk 8888; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; Airwinger; ...
Apple tracking iOS 6 users... but you can turn it off.—PING!


Apple iPhone tracking Ping!

Please, No Flame Wars!
Discuss technical issues, software, and hardware.
Don't attack people!
Don't respond to the Anti-Apple Thread Trolls!
PLEASE IGNORE THEM!!!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

22 posted on 10/17/2012 8:49:39 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

Another subject:

I used the Panorama feature on the IPhone 5 several times yesterday. It looks nice, but the resolution suffers. I gather that is due to the Megs being divided along a larger image.

When is Apple going to build a camera?

As a Photographer, I have some ideas. Canon and Nikon can be stomped on with the right move.


23 posted on 10/17/2012 9:19:13 AM PDT by Loud Mime (arguetheconstitution.com)
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To: HamiltonJay

It is clear that you’re just an Apple shill and a Microsoft hater.

Apple got lucky with it’s iGadgets, and they’re continuing to ride them to profitability, but, Apple is NOT a company that is innovating, and they’re just basically trying to keep up with technology, knowing that, the iFaithfull will line up to buy any garbage that Apple puts out, even if they don’t need it.

Microsoft is the one company in the technology world that is doing the most to innovate, and their XBox and their new tablets and their new smartphone OS and their entry into the OS market for tablets and their new OS for desktops and laptops, are all things that point to Microsoft spending more and doing more as innovators, than any other company. IN fact, Microsoft spends about 3 times more on R&D than Apple, and Apple continues to hope that their iGadgets success sill last a few more years, but, other than those gadgets, they really are stuck in doing the same things they did 5 years ago, and they’re just trying to update those gadgets with tiny upgrades for each new sales cycle.

But, a company the size of MS and with as much innovation as they have been doing, is one that, neither Apple nor Google, nor both combined, can begin to compare to.

And, like I said before, Ballmer may not be the most likable of figures, but, when it comes to success, he has turned MS into a company with no peers. Apple may be more profitable, but, they can’t even begin to compare as far as product and software diversity, and the number of those products and software and services.

Apple now has big competition against what turned them hugely profitable, and they’re not even looking to diversify, and some time soon, they’ll start to lose on the sales of iPhones, and then, they’ll just become another tech company trying to survive.


24 posted on 10/17/2012 9:31:41 AM PDT by adorno
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To: adorno

Clear? Really, that is Clear? Wow, what alternate universe do you live in.

You want my background, I’ve been a software developer for 30 years, I’ve worked on products from all major vendors in that time.

You really are going to cite XBOX as an innovation? You are joking right? You do realize all an XBOX is is a PC in a custom package? It didn’t cut any new ground, in R1 or R2

Your defense of Balmer shows you didn’t read the article I cited in the least, Balmer single handedly destroyed MS’s technological and competitive edge. Bean counting does not an innovative/tech company make.

Balmer instituted a policy where if you had 5 people 1 was going to be rated sub par in their review, EVEN if they were a SUPERSTAR... That policy DESTROYED MS, and moved it from a innovative company to a CYA company.

That’s right, if you happened to be put on a group of all superstars, (something you want when you are a tech driver) 20% of you would end up being given a CRAP review, not because you did bad work but because tehy had to by rules give out crap reviews. The decline of Microsoft an the absolute mismanagement of the company is very well documented, and its not something fanboys for any company want to hear.

It is blindingly clear you honestly have no clue what you are talking about, but that’s not particularly suprising.

You really are in a dream world with your comments. I’ll give you this as a simple project to try to prove your point.. find 20 current tech workers and 20 recent CS graduates, and ask them... If you could work for any company on the planet.. who would you want to work for?

I guarantee Microsoft isn’t going to be the winner of that question.. and it won’t come in second place either. You want to know what companies are going to be driving the future, you look and see where the folks doing the heavy lifting want to work, MS lost being number one a long long time ago.

I know you don’t want to see it, you are obviously fan boy central, and I am happy you are buying Balmer’s bs.. but its just not backed up by facts or history.

MS’s fall from being THE TECH company, to just another player is incredibly well documented, but I am sure you don’t care about that, since your responses to the article I posted have nothing to do with the content of the article I posted or even the content of my posts.

Keep shilling up MS as the dominant tech driver, its just not true. MS is a big company, and not going anywhere, but the idea they are the driver today they were in the 90s is laughable. Balmer tanked them as a leader.. his first to profit last to cool mantra ensured MS will never ever be a cutting edge company.


25 posted on 10/17/2012 9:45:24 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Obadiah

Thank you!


26 posted on 10/17/2012 10:13:55 AM PDT by notaliberal
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To: Obadiah

Thank you! I just changed it! :)


27 posted on 10/17/2012 10:35:36 AM PDT by freeagle
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To: HamiltonJay

You keep making the same mistakes that most MS detractors make, and that is, forgetting to look at reality, which says that, Microsoft is very successful, and hugely diversified, and conducting more R&D than any other company, and coming out with more innovative software and OSes than any other company around. And, now, lately, they’ve even gotten into the computer hardware business.

Sure, the XBox is not particularly “innovative”, since, gaming systems have been around for decades, but, the XBox is an indication of how MS’s tech and innovation can take over a market. MS didn’t invent OSes, but, they create a version of an OS which did take over the world when it became the most successful in that field. MS didn’t create Office software, but, they took over the market. And MS didn’t create the smartphone, but they were in that market before Apple came out with their iPhone.

MS has such diversity in products and software that, it could not have been accidental, and somebody had to make the decisions to create them, and sometimes, to discard them. Like any other company out there that sells to the consumer and to businesses, they will make mistakes with whatever they product, but, most times they do get it right. And getting it right is what Ballmer has done. No company becomes the preeminent software company in the world by accident.

Whatever you may think or believe regarding Microsoft and Ballmer, the facts point to something quite different, and that is a company still growing and still innovating and still looking to expand into other markets.

Apple’s innovation has been, mostly, coming out with a formula for marketing and sales that keeps people coming back for more of the same, no matter how boring that “same” has become. Materially and functionally, Apple has become a follower rather than a leader in technology, but, on the opposite side, MS is leading the way, even while having an ugly, ball-headed, overweight, and not very likable CEO running things.

When it comes to Apple’s products, no doubt they are made well, and people can’t really go too wrong with purchasing those products, but, there are still better options out there, at much lower costs, and with more current technology inside.

A hypothetical:

If both, Apple and Microsoft were to go out of business today, which one would be felt more? Which one would be missed more? Which one would have a more detrimental effect on personal and business computing? Basically, which company is doing more of what people and businesses “NEED” in their daily lives? Which one is more important to the world?

Fact is that, if Apple were to go out of business tomorrow, they would be missed, but with not much impact to corporations and to people’s daily lives.

If MS were to go out of business and its products and services were no longer operatiional, the world might come to a screeching halt, or we could have a huge recession.


28 posted on 10/17/2012 10:45:58 AM PDT by adorno
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To: HamiltonJay

Also, if number of years of experience is how you judge qualifications for commenting, then, I have that over you too. I’ve been in the computing field since 1969, when I first got my first job in a company as a computer operator/programmer. And, I’ve worked on a a much bigger variety of platforms, including many different OSes and hardware platforms, and programming languages. I’ve used and designed and programmed for a huge variety of hardware platforms and software platforms, with companies small and large, including Fortune 500 companies. In fact, you and just about everybody else that uses credit cards and does any type of banking, has, at one time or another, engages a computer system which uses some of the software which I was involved with in designing and/or programming. If you’ve or any has ever purchased anything over the phone or from an on—line retailer, or from a TV shopping network, then, you or that person has used some software which I was involved in designing/developing/programming.

My latest project, and one which is strictly mine, is for news and information through the internet. Sure, there are lots of that already available, but, not like what I have in mind.

Basically, I don’t like using my background in order to score points, but, since you brought it up first, I had to respond to your irrelevant point.


29 posted on 10/17/2012 10:57:04 AM PDT by adorno
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To: Squawk 8888

I would trust the subscriber has the ability to turn it off?


30 posted on 10/17/2012 11:35:50 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: Squawk 8888

If true, the Cupertino mafia can FOAD. They did this all for some extra money coming in. Greedy unethical bassturds!!! Buy android instead. Samsung Galaxy S3 blows away latest iPhone anyway


31 posted on 10/17/2012 11:57:21 AM PDT by dennisw (Government be yo mamma - Re-elect Barack Obama)
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To: mo

Yes, but it’s on by default and they’re quiet about it.


32 posted on 10/17/2012 12:07:06 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: dennisw

Yep, I have an 18 month old Galaxy S and don’t foresee any reason to upgrade until it breaks. Even got a new battery for it on eBay for 3 bucks including shipping.


33 posted on 10/17/2012 12:09:00 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: Obadiah

When I first read this there was instructions for turning tracking off. I went through the steps and found that tracking was already off by default on my new iPhone.


34 posted on 10/17/2012 12:14:29 PM PDT by itsahoot (I'll write in Palin in 2012. That is 1 vote for Palin, 0 votes for Romney and Zer0 votes for Obama.)
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To: adorno
Microsoft has cures for everything, but like medical miracles they are eight to ten years away from approval.

I have stuff that works today, where I live all made by Apple.

If you don't like Apple, don't buy their products, that should solve all your problems.

35 posted on 10/17/2012 12:33:31 PM PDT by itsahoot
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To: adorno

Holmes!!!!


36 posted on 10/17/2012 12:40:37 PM PDT by dennisw (Government be yo mamma - Re-elect Barack Obama)
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To: itsahoot
Microsoft has cures for everything, but like medical miracles they are eight to ten years away from approval.

I have stuff that works today, where I live all made by Apple.

If you don't like Apple, don't buy their products, that should solve all your problems.


What universe did you say you just came from???

If there is any one company with "cures" for anything, software related, then it's Microsoft, and Apple is not even close.

And, the Microsoft stuff has been around for around 30 years, and their solutions are working TODAY, and they're the ones with solutions that will be around in the future. Apple still has, basically, iPhones, and some other gadgets. Yeah, people do purchase them, and try to make them work in the workplace, but, after jumping through hoops. The Microsoft solutions come ready made, and instantly available. That's where Apple can't even begin to compete effectively.

And, I never said I didn't like Apple products. They make some pretty good stuff. Where I disagree with the whole Apple mystique, is with the general belief that, they somehow have superior product quality, and that they are innovators, when, in fact, others are way ahead of them, in functionally and technology, and now, even in sales.
37 posted on 10/17/2012 1:05:15 PM PDT by adorno
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To: for-q-clinton

Seriously?

Everything Google (Chrome, Android, etc.) tracks every move you make.

Anyone who thinks that Microsoft won’t also follow suit is deceiving themselves.

But does that excuse Apple doing it without telling consumers - NO. Indeed, there should be a way to “opt-out”.


38 posted on 10/17/2012 4:01:26 PM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: TheBattman
And, I never said I didn't like Apple products. They make some pretty good stuff. Where I disagree with the whole Apple mystique, is with the general belief that, they somehow have superior product quality, and that they are innovators, when, in fact, others are way ahead of them, in functionally and technology, and now, even in sales.

You sound like a liberal trying to convince voters that the last four years have NOT been what they experienced. Frankly, 95% of Apple product users are refugees from Microsoft hell and we KNOW you are spouting falsehoods when you try to tell us that Apple products are not superior to Microsoft run products, but our experience simply is that they truly are. WE have experience daily with both and it is quite obvious YOU do not. Frankly, we are like people who speak two languages, listening to a person who is completely ignorant of the other. . . spouting off about how inadequate the other is with absolutely NO Knowledge about it. You show your ignorance in every post. You flaunt it.

39 posted on 10/17/2012 8:59:07 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Squawk 8888; a fool in paradise

IBTWPTBTBM ( In Before Those Who Prefer To Be Tracked By Microsoft!)


40 posted on 10/17/2012 9:01:04 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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