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BREAKING: Second Circuit Court Finds Section 3 Of DOMA Unconstitutional
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Posted on 10/18/2012 9:09:23 AM PDT by massmike

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To: CharlesWayneCT

exactly

homosexuals have every right as us, there is not one right they do not have which we have.

They can marry the opposite sex just as we can, we can;t marry the same sex just as they can;t, we can;t marry more than one person at once just as they can;t.

What frigging dopey lawyer was on our side for this and who were the judges?

Liberalism is a mental disease, it really is.

This is all based on sex, that’s it, how they get off.

Some say on our sdie that the homosexuals agenda is nothing, I’ve seen libertarians on here say that they have no problem with a grown man marrying his little daughter, we truely live in a sick country today and our side like Hannity won;t even mention social issues and yet THE LEFT ALWAYS FIGHTS FOR THEIR SOCIAL ISSUES,.


101 posted on 10/18/2012 11:28:51 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: rbg81
I have a (liberal) lawyer friend whose favorite expression is that we’re a nation of laws, not men. But that is BS given the phenomenon of judges continually deciding that laws which were constitutional are now (magically) not constitutional anymore.

The elite intellectual crowd tends to conveniently forget that not all laws are equal and or even legitimate whether they be passed by a legislative body or pulled out of thin air by a judge.

There is common law -laws not centrally planned; often with no rational basis -laws historically proven successful that evolved in a society promoting the common good -laws coming out and adopted having emanated from the free marketplace of ideas.

The elite intellectual crowd also tends to discount if not completely ignore the laws that are by default premised upon the inalienable authority that is above government -God the Creator. No rational basis is the battle cry of the leftist elites who plank by plank attempt to dismantle proven tradition and institution for their supposed rationally derived and centrally planned utopia.

102 posted on 10/18/2012 11:32:49 AM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: massmike

So exactly what is marriage?


103 posted on 10/18/2012 11:39:50 AM PDT by CityCenter (It's too late, Obama yeah, it's too late.)
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To: newzjunkey
The only thing that got conceded to government was what was called CIVIL REGISTRATION ~ births, deaths, marriages....... neat way to keep people not members of the church (of whatever kind) out of the records.

At the time civil registration was created it was considered a great advance in civil liberties.

104 posted on 10/18/2012 11:42:42 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: manc
50 years back Virginia was a one party state, and that party was the Democrat party.

It's gotten better, but we still have a lot of fascist stuff they instituted that stands in the way of progress.

105 posted on 10/18/2012 11:44:16 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: willibeaux
Why should I bother. The whole story has been posted many times and not one of you guys has bothered to even comment on it ~ mostly because you can't.

I think he did the prayer and counseling bit on it and gave up.

106 posted on 10/18/2012 11:50:27 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Sans-Culotte
Just a matter of time before the Warren Roberts Court comes to the same decision.

Surely you jest. Everyone knows Roberts upheld Obamacare because the law was passed by representatives elected by the people. "It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices." (In other words, the Constitution doesn't matter; elections do.) Therefore, DOMA will be upheld. /sarc

107 posted on 10/18/2012 11:51:24 AM PDT by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: muawiyah
Why do you constantly rant about Polygamy? No one is proposing it in any American State right now. It basically has been adopted in many societies, when there are many more women than men, as a result of wars, etc.; but absolutely no one is pushing the idea in any contemporary American State.

You sound like a guest at the party in Alice & Wonderland, over the non-issue.

Also, why do you continually misrepresent Mitt Romney's actions in relation to "same-sex" marriage?" If he went along with certain things in Leftist Massachusetts, that does not mean that he does not mean what he says in the present race. Obama is the candidate who has endorsed the oxymoron--for t hat is what the very concept of "same-sex marriage" is.

William Flax

108 posted on 10/18/2012 11:52:14 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan
The Second Circuit just tossed the whole marriage thing ~ THE WHOLE THING.

So what are you talking about?

109 posted on 10/18/2012 11:59:14 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: massmike

I despise the direction our country is heading.


110 posted on 10/18/2012 12:00:47 PM PDT by uncitizen (Impeach Obama NOW!)
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To: Ohioan

BTW, polygamy is usually adopted in societies where fertile women are in short supply. The rich guys get the women, and the poor guys get to share the leftovers.


111 posted on 10/18/2012 12:05:09 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
What I was "talking about," or writing about is that Polygamy is not an issue in America, today. Your focus on a non-issue, contributes little to a rational discussion of what is happening in America to our--not other people's--cultural heritage & social infra-structure.

William Flax

112 posted on 10/18/2012 12:19:25 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: massmike

Whether this court is correct or not doesn’t really matter. If America and Americans are relying on the DOMA to preserve marriage, we’re utter fools.

The Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God won’t accept law as a substitute for morality. (That’s on practically every page of the Bible.) If we think passing a law relieves us of responsibility, this court has done us a favor by disabusing us of that notion.


113 posted on 10/18/2012 12:40:52 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: DannyTN
I heard Little Richard say that talking about his own conversion from homosexuality probably 30 years ago.

Little Richard was a homo?

114 posted on 10/18/2012 12:45:02 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (To bid on this tagline space: www.jeffchandlerstaglinespace.com)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Once upon a time, yep. In the interview I saw, he said "God finally convinced him Adam was supposed to be with Eve, not Steve."

Wikipedia Little Richard - See Personal Life

115 posted on 10/18/2012 12:50:26 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: xzins
I know that it doesn’t violate equal protection, because I know that the Founders would never have intended this.

DOMA doesn't violate the equal protection clause, because DOMA is applied equally to all Americans. (It's not as though some classes of people are allowed to engage in homosexual unions, and other's are not.) The law says that the US government recognizes that all Americans can marry one person of the opposite sex. This means that homosexuals have the same rights as all other Americans since all Americans can marry someone of the opposite sex. Same sex couples just choose not to exercise that right. Since the law is applied equally to all Americans it does not violate equal protection.

Striking down DOMA on the grounds of equal protection is absolutely absurd. Following this court's crazy logic, incestuous and polygamous marriage will have to be upheld as well because not permitting them also would violate equal protection as described by this court.

116 posted on 10/18/2012 12:51:12 PM PDT by old republic
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To: Jim Noble

You have a good point, but if we count bi-sexuals or those who recreational fudge packers and rug munchers I would bet the total is more like 20%.


117 posted on 10/18/2012 1:09:58 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: muawiyah; Ohioan

Actually Polygamy is a problem in this country but it is underground so to speak., muslims and other religions accept it and do it.

In Canada right now there is a suit about this and I read on here though I have nio time to fund t that a suit has been filed in a state , not sure which one it is but it was out west.

What this decision has done and it;s a stupid activist decision is that marriage is anything.
Thye have the same rights as us, and what defines homosexuals is that they like sex and get off sexually with the same sex,.
So based on that they think special laws should be applied and I;m sure the foudning fathers would not have done special laws based on how one has their sex and if they thought this sick act would have been a problem as it is now then they would have dealt with it in the constitution


118 posted on 10/18/2012 2:28:56 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc

We don’t have any lawyers, dopey or otherwise, on our side anymore — the justice department is actually AGAINST the laws of our country on this issue, advocating for them to be overturned.


119 posted on 10/18/2012 2:32:30 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: manc

We don’t have any lawyers, dopey or otherwise, on our side anymore — the justice department is actually AGAINST the laws of our country on this issue, advocating for them to be overturned.


120 posted on 10/18/2012 2:32:30 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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