Posted on 11/01/2012 5:53:48 AM PDT by Ratman83
it’s ok. if you don’t have anything to hide, you should welcome our gubmint overlords.(sarc)
it’s for the children.
Yes the children, must save the children.
This would be a huge crime if done by a private citizen.
Blah, what’s the difference between this and staking out, or flying over, a property in undercover vehicles - other than it being a hell of a lot cheaper.
These days the constitution is nothing more than confetti to the government.
I can't remember the final outcome of that case. I think it probably ended when the Supreme Court ruled against warrantless tracking devices on vehicles.
The difference being that someone has to set foot ON private property without warrant and emplace a recording device.
They can surveil all the want off the private property, but in my estimation when they set foot on without warrant it is tantamount to entering your home.
Seems to me if I find cameras situated on my property, without my permission ...
They're mine.
And I'm free to do with them as I see fit.
And I see fit to smash them with a sledgehammer ...
Someone did that with a device placed by the FBI. The FBI went after him for theft of govt property. There was a thread here but I don’t remember all the details.
Does this mean we can install surveillance cameras and audio recording devices in The Hairy Reed’s office to monitor for crimes against the Constitution?
Which part of “entering your property without a warrant” did you not understand?
When do they open the gulags?
Thank you for throwing our 4th amendment in the garbage can, Drug Warriors.
“...I can’t remember the final outcome of that case. I think it probably ended when the Supreme Court ruled against warrantless tracking devices on vehicles....”
I can’t remember either, but I think in one of these cases, the guy took the thing down to a local truck stop and put it on an eastbound freightliner. Govt was totally pissed.
Can I just mail it back (by fourth class mail) to the US embassy in Nepal? They'll get it back in a couple of months.
“Seems to me if I find cameras situated on my property, - - - -”
Finding them could require some very sophisticated equipment considering they are probably the size of a pencil eraser and concealed in such a manner you’d never see them, even if you were looking right at them.
The feds don’t need hidden cameras to spy on folks in our neck of the woods, we live close to the border and there is a surveillance flyover at least once a day. I should probably feel safer because of it, but the fact is I am not at all comfortable with it. This whole homeland security crap created by Bush had good intent, but in the hands of obama it can be used as a gestapo-ish tool against the citizenry.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Nothing in there about spying. The government is way out bounds now.
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