Posted on 11/07/2012 12:52:28 AM PST by ThermoNuclearWarrior
Donald Trump decried the Electoral College and called for a revolution in the wake of the reelection of President Obama on Tuesday night.
Trump, in one of the most extreme reactions to Mitt Romney’s loss by a high-profile Republican, called for Americans to “march on Washington.”
The real estate mogul and host of reality show “The Apprentice” has been an outspoken supporter of Mitt Romney. He used Twitter to object vehemently to the Electoral College system that he predicted would give the win to Obama and the popular vote to the GOP challenger.
Obama was declared the winner of the election on Tuesday after multiple networks declared he won Ohio, thus weighting the electoral map in his favor. Romney was still leading in the popular vote shortly after midnight.
Trump called the Electoral College “a disaster for a democracy … a total sham and a travesty.”
But either Trump or his team was deleting his tweets as fast as he sent them, including two that called for a “revolution.”
One read: “We should have a revolution in this country!”
Another said: “More votes equals a loss...revolution!”
Unlike Trump, other conservatives on Twitter were less riled by Romney’s loss.
Erick Erickson, founder of the influential conservative Red State blog, was critical of the Romney campaign on Twitter and counseled that Obama’s reelection hardly means the end of the conservative movement.
Erickson actually indicated he was resigned to the outcome before the major networks called the race for Obama, tweeting a “thanks” to Team Obama before following up later with a "congratulations" and a promise.
But longtime Republican campaign strategist Karl Rove disputed the Ohio call in the minutes after most major networks declared it a win for Obama, warning it was too early. Fox News heard him out and even took viewers on a trip backstage to the decision desk to question the math behind the decision. The network ultimately decided to stand behind its decision to call Ohio for Obama.
“I just wanted to raise the question, which I did,” Rove defended himself a few minutes later, accepting the call.
How many other countries are at >100% Debt to GDP? I know Japan is one, it’s still here.
It was once said, the optimists among us should be learning Russian. The pessimists ought to concentrate on learning Chinese.
But considering who has just “won” a second term in the White Hut, perhaps we shold be studying Arabic, just so we can find all the loopholes in the Koran. Because that is going to be the governing document when the subversion of the Supreme Court is complete.
Such a revolution would by definition have to be anti-American.
“American,” if it means anything, means rule for, of and by the people.
Your revolution would by definition be of a minority (one with which I happen to agree) against the majority.
Breitbart was right. He who controls the culture rules. In the long run he will swing elections. With his death we lost the only person who seemed to understand how to fight their control of the culture. The greatest tragedy of this century, IMO.
Of course, the century is young, and those who now control the country and the world will have lots of chances to top it.
That is a very interesting point. What if we stopped running presidential races, knowing the demographics now bar us from victory, put everything we had into filling state senates and houses (in red states) with our guys, along with the governship, and judiciary. Divide the states from the government as much as we can.
UPDATE: MICHELLE BACHMANN WON! YES!
In most southern states, at least after shooting started, a majority of probably 90%+ supported the CSA.
In today’s South, it is unlikely attempts at secession would be able to draw even a bare majority. How do you run a secession/revolution when most of the people are opposed?
America is based on rule by the people. A revolution of the type proposed would have to be based on some other principle, overriding the vote, and would therefore by definition by anti-American.
Our country is finished, and we have to accept that. It's time for the states to become independent, or start discussing new unions built on a Constitution that our founders believed in. You will never see a government that's anywhere near Constitutional with what we have now. It must collapse and be rebuilt if we have any chance to see that day. I know it's sad to think of our union breaking up, but it's happening, and it has to happen if we are going to get any nation built that resembles what our founding fathers wanted. We live under more tyranny than our founders did, and they thought war was justifiable in their situation. We have hope of a more peaceful outcome, and owe it to them to at least try saving the country instead of lying to ourselves until it collapses.
We would have the same support we had in our first Revolution. You do know most of the people wanted nothing to do with it don’t you? It would be the same now. A small percentage of the population will be all that’s willing to get involved personally regardless of whether they support or oppose it. They won’t be actively opposing anyone. You also forget that it doesn’t matter how much of the population disagrees with the Constitution, unless they change it the way it was meant to be changed their opinion on it means nothing. They can’t change it the right way, and don’t even bother with that process anymore. The fact is most Americans are ignorant on our Constitution, and everything this nation was built on. That’s why we are in this situation. Considering our second amendment was given to us to protect ourselves against a tyrannical government like we have now, there are still a ridiculous amount of people who believe it’s for hunting. That sadly includes many who support the right.
And its about to have a war with China over some islands. Probably just a coincidence.
So how you going to work it? Let us assume you succeed in overthrowing the present government by force and put yourselves in temporary control.
To be true to the ideals you claim to hold, you will eventually have to hold elections and submit to the will of the people.
At that point you will lose the election. You will then have to either give up power, which means your whole revolution fails, or develop some other rationale for holding onto power. Personally, I can imagine such rationales, but I can’t call them “American.” They would be based on entirely different principles.
IOW, what does a revolution held in the name of the people do when the people reject it?
Your whole argument is based on the notion that the people are “really” behind you. What if they aren’t?
Start a revolution against whom? Trump is missing the point here... The revolution ended last night... we just didn`t like the result.
“America” demostrated in no uncertain terms it WANTS socialism.
And forevermore... let`s please bury the goofy notion America is a “center-right” country.
People like me had relatives that fought family against family in the Civil War. Furthermore, I happen to be blood kin to some of the most ignorant liberal minded people on God's green earth. You really prepared to have a blood letting to fix this mess.
God is in control and He said I will never leave you nor forsake you .... IF... might want to find out what His requirements are as He lets the majority of liberals make a name for themselves. NOW IF this bunch of rebels come knocking at my door then I have no recourse but to defend myself, family and property.
I don't know all the details of how a revolution will play out, but no one can give me a serious alternative, and that's why it's all I will support regardless of the risk. Those risk are there either way. It's at the point it's laughable to be supporting the corrupt and unconstitutional system we have now. I know a revolution is all that can possibly work at this point. Anyone with a strategy based around revolution is on the right path. Anyone still lying to themselves and looking to 2016 are on the wrong path. It's time to start discussing and planning for Revolution, or just giving up if you can't ever see working outside the system no matter how bad it gets.
And its about to have a war with China over some islands. Probably just a coincidence.
The Chicoms started that to distract from their own economic problems. Its the thing that has worried me for some time, the Chinese playing the nationalism card. With Commander Zero back at the helm, Taiwan could be next.
As for Japan, comparing their situation to ours is apples and oranges. They are a remarkably homogeneous country.
We, most definitely, are not.
The Revolution Will Not Be Televised.....
A revolution today is worth as much as our first revolution was. I realize it's the only solution left, and I am willing to say I will stay with it until the end when it happens. I don't want it to be violent, and I hope for the best possible outcome, but I can't support it and then not be willing to stay with it no matter what. I think a lot of people such as yourself aren't understanding what a Revolution is, and can't see it as anything but private citizens fighting a war with government forces. I think a lot of so-called conservatives laugh at the words revolution and tyranny when it comes to the United States, because they don't see our founding fathers as actual people. It's like a fairytale to them, and has nothing to show us today.
I would like Trump to focus on voter fraud instead of the EV.
I think the fraud in this election was rampant.
NO more electronic machines. Purple fingers. NO ‘early voting” , which gives the Dems a month or more to manipulate the results. No ‘Motor voter’ laws letting illegals get driver’s licenses & then giving them voter registration papers at the same time.
Everywhere the reports were of a high voter turnout....
What are the results in YOUR districts? How many registered voters versus the total vote count???
Foreign election officials amazed by trust-based U.S. voting system
Exactly
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