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Why Hispanics Donít Vote for Republicans
National Review Online ^ | November 7, 2012 | Heather Mac Donald

Posted on 11/07/2012 4:10:27 PM PST by neverdem

The call for Republicans to discard their opposition to immigration amnesty will grow deafening in the wake of President Obama’s victory. Hispanics supported Obama by a margin of nearly 75 percent to 25 percent, and may have provided important margins in some swing states. If only Republicans relented on their Neanderthal views regarding the immigration rule of law, the message will run, they would release the inner Republican waiting to emerge in the Hispanic population.  

If Republicans want to change their stance on immigration, they should do so on the merits, not out of a belief that only immigration policy stands between them and a Republican Hispanic majority. It is not immigration policy that creates the strong bond between Hispanics and the Democratic party, but the core Democratic principles of a more generous safety net, strong government intervention in the economy, and progressive taxation. Hispanics will prove to be even more decisive in the victory of Governor Jerry Brown’s Proposition 30, which raised upper-income taxes and the sales tax, than in the Obama election. 

And California is the wave of the future. A March 2011 poll by Moore Information found that Republican economic policies were a stronger turn-off for Hispanic voters in California than Republican positions on illegal immigration. Twenty-nine percent of Hispanic voters were suspicious of the Republican party on class-warfare grounds — “it favors only the rich”; “Republicans are selfish and out for themselves”; “Republicans don’t represent the average person”– compared with 7 percent who objected to Republican immigration stances. 

I spoke last year with John Echeveste, founder of the oldest Latino marketing firm in southern California, about Hispanic politics. “What Republicans mean by ‘family values’ and what Hispanics mean are two completely different things,” he said. “We are a very compassionate people, we care about other people and understand that government has a role to play in helping people.”

And a strong reason for that support for big government is that so many Hispanics use government programs. U.S.-born Hispanic households in California use welfare programs at twice the rate of native-born non-Hispanic households. And that is because nearly one-quarter of all Hispanics are poor in California, compared to a little over one-tenth of non-Hispanics. Nearly seven in ten poor children in the state are Hispanic, and one in three Hispanic children is poor, compared to less than one in six non-Hispanic children. One can see that disparity in classrooms across the state, which are chock full of social workers and teachers’ aides trying to boost Hispanic educational performance. 

The idea of the “social issues” Hispanic voter is also a mirage. A majority of Hispanics now support gay marriage, a Pew Research Center poll from last month found. The Hispanic out-of-wedlock birth rate is 53 percent, about twice that of whites. 

The demographic changes set into motion by official and de facto immigration policy favoring low-skilled over high-skilled immigrants mean that a Republican party that purports to stand for small government and free markets faces an uncertain future.  



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: hispanics; latinos; republicans
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To: Stillwaters

This is an excellent read with lots to think about.


41 posted on 11/07/2012 4:56:54 PM PST by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: kropcke
The GOP has about as much of a chance of courting Hispanic votes as they do Black votes ...

That's really not true at all. Just look at how wildly the Hispanic voting patterns have changed even in the last four presidential elections.

This is going to sound ridiculous, but I wonder if Romney would have done himself a huge favor in this election if he and Ryan had just gone out and spent several weeks learning to speak a little Spanish.

42 posted on 11/07/2012 4:57:28 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: EQAndyBuzz

” The Mexicans and Muslims can have the rest.”

That’s just it,,,the mexiclowns are like locusts. They devastate 1 state, they move to another.


43 posted on 11/07/2012 4:58:26 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: Sarabaracuda

With conservatives flooding into TX at a rate equal or greater than the rate of Hispanics, there is no chance TX is in play anytime soon. A old, white, Mormon just beat the hero of Hispanics by 16 points. This is greater than McCains margin in 2008 and not too far from Bush’s victory in 2004.


44 posted on 11/07/2012 5:01:32 PM PST by tatown (Obama was right, it was a 'one term proposition')
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To: ari-freedom

“Reaching out” to low income Hispanics by the Repubs?
Well, trying to do so to the USA Blacks has not been a success.

With low income people, here&now freebies outweigh ideas/ethics/eventual better life via individual responsibility.


45 posted on 11/07/2012 5:01:59 PM PST by OldArmy52 (The question is not whether Obama ever lies, but whether he ever tells the truth.)
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To: ari-freedom
We should learn from Canada. Conservatives were able to get Sikhs, Chinese and even African immigrants to vote for them because they reached out to immigrant populations.

I know this first-hand. These immigrant groups have been a key to Conservative Party dominance in western Canada for years. One thing to keep in mind, though, is that one way conservatives appeal to them is by demonstrating how idiotic it is for Canada to be filled with so many slackers, Indians on welfare, etc. These immigrant groups have no patience for that kind of sh!t. In other words, these immigrants would absolutely love to get behind a Romney campaign if Romney had been vocal and proud of his "47%" comments.

46 posted on 11/07/2012 5:02:35 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: AmusedBystander

“Trick or treating is a conservative principle to the core. They come to my door in costume to entertain me and I reward them with a treat. They perform work and then they get pay. “

What if they don’t entertain you and you don’t give them a treat? Then you get a trick.


47 posted on 11/07/2012 5:04:46 PM PST by ari-freedom (Election Day should be after Thanksgiving, not right after Halloween)
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To: OldArmy52

” Well, trying to do so to the USA Blacks has not been a success.”

You mean we tried? We haven’t tried since Lincoln!


48 posted on 11/07/2012 5:09:19 PM PST by ari-freedom (Election Day should be after Thanksgiving, not right after Halloween)
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To: neverdem
With all due respect, “I’m from the government and I’m here to help you” strikes me as an even more ribald joke in most, if not in fact all, of American Hispanics’ ancestral countries than it is here. So my answer to Mr. Echeveste when he says American Hispanics understand that government has a role in helping people would be, “Dude. Seriously?
49 posted on 11/07/2012 5:10:17 PM PST by RichInOC (Palin 2016: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: ari-freedom

You mean until the New Deal came, and FDR started the “Free stuff for everybody!” bonanza.


50 posted on 11/07/2012 5:10:58 PM PST by Shadow44
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To: dsrtsage

My observation, at least in my neighborhood and surrounding areas, is that kids *don’t* walk to trick or treat. Their parents drive them. I didn’t have a single kid who arrived at my house on foot this year.


51 posted on 11/07/2012 5:12:08 PM PST by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: Shadow44
Nah, you'd be surprised there are many Mexicans in NC.

last fourth of July, we had no plans so we decided to head to a local lake outside of Raleigh for the afternoon. It was completely filled. We figured, ah, we can just pull over here at one of these inlet places and find a spot.

Holy crap. We walked down this path toward the lake. there were 100s of illegals (I am guessing). Trash everywhere. Families, extended families of ten or more. Loud barrio music blaring. I felt like I walked into a third world country. I have been in third world countries and NOT felt the feeling I was feeling there. I never felt so foreign in my own country.

I am back in Arizona now where I have resided for many years, with the exception of two years in NC. I have never seen anything like that in Arizona. I can't even exaggerate the scene to you.

52 posted on 11/07/2012 5:12:19 PM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Shadow44

“You mean until the New Deal came, and FDR started the “Free stuff for everybody!” bonanza.”

And then we responded with Strom Thurmond, Nixon’s southern strategy, Reagan’s “welfare queens” and Pat Buchanan’s speech at the RNC (which killed off GOP’s landslide chances for good)


53 posted on 11/07/2012 5:16:27 PM PST by ari-freedom (Election Day should be after Thanksgiving, not right after Halloween)
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To: SaraJohnson

Heather is one of the smartest people on the planet when it comes to the immigration issue as it relates both politically and in terms of crime. Calling her a “surrender monkey” says more about your ignorance than anything else.


54 posted on 11/07/2012 5:20:14 PM PST by kabar
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To: Viennacon
It goes back further than Bush 41 or 43, both of whom were terrible on immigration.

The 1965 Immigration Act: Anatomy of a Disaster

55 posted on 11/07/2012 5:23:33 PM PST by kabar
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To: Alberta's Child
>> the second generation in those families tends to be far more conservative than their white, native-born American counterparts. <<

I think the opposite is true in many cases, like why we lost the "Cuban vote" in Florida this year. The first generation of immigrants really did believe in traditional family values and despised socialism after they escaped a communist hell hole. But the third generation Cuban Americans don't care about grandpa's life and think socialism is kewl and gay marriage is hip.

56 posted on 11/07/2012 5:23:46 PM PST by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: Sarabaracuda

57 posted on 11/07/2012 5:26:39 PM PST by kabar
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To: neverdem

They don’t need too. Their votes are already being used.


58 posted on 11/07/2012 5:27:47 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: neverdem

Sounds like she read Jeb Bush in Parade magazine this past Sunday.

get out the Bushes!


59 posted on 11/07/2012 5:28:15 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: SaraJohnson; cripplecreek
"The idea of the 'social issues' Hispanic voter is also a mirage. A majority of Hispanics now support gay marriage, a Pew Research Center poll from last month found. The Hispanic out-of-wedlock birth rate is 53 percent, about twice that of whites.

"The demographic changes set into motion by official and de facto immigration policy favoring low-skilled over high-skilled immigrants mean that a Republican party that purports to stand for small government and free markets faces an uncertain future."

Heather ain’t too smart. Surrender monkey.

I believe you misunderstand Heather Mac Donald. She's just telling the GOP to forget about attracting Latinos. Check the link in the story. She's not telling the GOP to bribe them with amnesty and welfare programs. She's saying they're mostly hopeless.

60 posted on 11/07/2012 5:29:08 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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