Skip to comments.Benghazi Gates Part 2, What happened to Ambassador Stevens?
Posted on 11/07/2012 8:30:24 PM PST by Dave Mellon
I am still recovering from the election but I feel a deep commitment to getting the true story of what happened at Benghazi out to the public. I originally posted this article at 12:49 AM PST yesterday morning and that was a mistake. So I hope it is okay to repost it tonight at a more decent hour.
This is a draft version. It is brief, 5 min 05 seconds, because I realized after posting Part 1 (14 mins+) that it is too much to ask my fellow Freepers to watch a long video with no knowledge of who I am (a newbie). I will do a substantial update to both videos as soon as I recover from sleep deprivation (working on the videos) and acute depression/anxiety (election night loss syndrome). I know I need better scripts and a narrator with a clear voice (not me). I added some facts by typing them right on to the video stills and photos.
This video answers many questions about what happened to Ambassador Stevens from the time he was abandoned by his State Department employees at 11:20 PM and the time he was taken out of the Main Building of the American Consulate in Benghazi Libya. It also raises many new and disturbing questions as well. The worldwide news media has overwhelmingly pronounced the retrieval and transport of Ambassador Stevens to the Benghazi Medical Center as a kind hearted gesture of good will but this video cast significant doubt on that assessment. I too once believed that it was a gesture of good will until I examined the long version of the amateur video of the retrieval. That video is available as "The Retrieval of Ambassador Stevens at the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi Libya" on my YouTube page. The fact that there was a splice in the video at a key point and then a "new" pulse check of the Ambassador raised doubts in my mind. I then completed a frame by frame examination of the video and was stunned at what I found. I then found a few new key photographs on the internet that led me to piece together critical aspects of what happened that night.
Below you will find the conundrum I was in when cutting the video to five minutes. This issue did not make the cut:
Although I did not say so in the video, I believe the Ambassador had been dead around 2 ½ to three hours at the time the video was recorded. This places his time of death around 10:00 PM. I base this conclusion on six things: 1) Sean Smith died during the fire shortly after the decision was made to escape to the roof and the Ambassador surely received a similar exposure to dense smoke from incomplete combustion and associated fatal levels of carbon monoxide. 2) The consistent position of the Ambassadors left arm and fingers which appear to form an L when not held in place by the persons holding him is consistent with early rigor mortis as is 3) no apparent movement of his eyelids in any of the recovery video and photos, 4) the use of white rags by individuals holding or touching the Ambassador--they knew he was dead, 5) the ripping of the Ambassadors T-shirt and rolling him on his side for a posed photograph to show newly identified wounds *after* checking his pulse, 6) the hospital morgue video shows that the Ambassadors eye lids are in the same position as when he was recovered. I am not a conspiracy theorist and if a group of credible medical examiners look at the two videos and facts of the case and then conclude that the Ambassador was alive at the time he was recovered, I will stand corrected. At this time however, I believe that the attending physician at the Benghazi Medical Center should have recognized the Ambassador was obviously dead and not performed CPR for 45 minutes if in fact that happened.
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Is it possible Stevens was removed, then SEALs look, then put back again then removed? Removed but was determined dead then put back again then removed again?
When the bodies of Stephens and the others were being flown to the US morgue at Dover, Obama had the plane diverted to Andrews AFB for a photo op with Hillary. I wonder if he had the waiting families of the murdered Americans flown to Andrews for the media event, or if he left them waiting in Dover.
I think it is pretty obvious that the Ambassador was not found anywhere along the path from the safe room or bathroom to the primary emergency egress window. This means he was somewhere else. I think I know where that place is but I am still working on putting that info in the update to this video. Trust me it will make sense and raise new doubts about the State Department’s claims on what happened.
What a true mark of respect Mr. Obama rendered to these brave men. (sarcasm)
Not sure how the family members got to Andrews but they met with the President and Secretary of State there.
Wow — have you all seen this?
It really helps to see the map of the building. The photos ... well, give a powerful idea of the horrors unfolding.
What do you make of the 3:40 point, eyes open arms down, and the man with the phone in his mouth, then compare to
Point 3:50, it looks like they are holding his arm up,but that phone is down close to the Ambassadors mouth, as if to capture a breath or words. That phone looks to me to be held next to Stevens for a deliberate purpose.
Is that possible, or why would they be holding his arm up like that? Where can I find your other videos, please. This is most ineresting and I thank you for this info.
The map of the building is not perfect by any means; but, it is based on a large number of photographs and videos I collected from news outlets and internet searches. I then viewed them over and over again to glean new details. I also used the Google map photo and one other satellite photo. The unique shape of the building also greatly aided me in making the drawing. The news media went out of its way to avoid sharing a lot of detail but they shared enough! You can see I had to put some question marks on two windows and the room configuration could certainly be off except that there is no question that the Ambassador’s room, hallway, saferoom, and the second bedroom (primary egress room) is accurate but not to scale.
I am awed and grateful for your work, and pray that those responsible (including in our gov’t) will be brought to justice.
Yes, the detailed floor plan and explanation do bring to life the events that went down there and reveal a lot about the security they did and did not have.
Perhaps they’re trying to prove he’s alive so they can collect their previously agreed to ‘hostage-taking’ payout.
I hate Obama.
I hate Obama.
The phone appears to be a flip or slide phone and is in the closed position so I don't know what to make of it other than the it is odd.
The amount of photographs being taken by these individuals was amazing and consistent with them knowing who he was. It appears that many different people handled him as part of the show. I am guessing that the Ambassador weighed somewhere between 160 and 185 lbs so he was difficult to handle and they grabbed a hold of him as best they could. The Ambassador's left arm is in the L position on several occasions in the video. The black soot around his nostrils is quite common in smoke inhalation fatalities. I have been adding videos to my YouTube Channel as I use clips from them. I will be adding more within a week or so but I am beat as I have worked on this way too much. Please be patient.
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