5 Reasons Amnesty Would Be Political Suicide For The Republican Party

Townhall ^ | 11/13/2012 | John Hawkins

[moehoward]

"However, the Hispanic vote is NOT locked to Democrats."

Since most were motivated by money -earned or otherwise- to come here in the first place, it's logical they'd flock to whoever is promising them easier access to it. I doubt the GOP will be adding 'more free stuff' to the plank anytime soon.

[SeminoleCounty]

Illegal Alien Amnesty is Anti-American Bigotry

We do not need Illegals. We have enough Americans out of work...and we do not have the revenue to keep Illegals, and their families, on their welfare rolls

And, it is political suicide for the GOP to bring in voters for the Democrats.

100% Deportation is not an extreme view. it is the proper solution to the Illegal Alien problem

And, Newt Gingrich’s “Guest Worker” program is just Amnesty rapped up in a different package. Whether it is Guest Worker Amnesty, or DREAM ACT Amnesty...it is still Amnesty if you do not 100% Deport all Illegals

Our National Security begins at the border. We fail in all security when we compromise our borders

[moehoward]

"It's called "permanent residency""

It's called 'future SCOTUS fodder'. Just like DOMA is doomed, so will be any attempt at a 'separate but equal' fix to Illegals.

[Nea Wood]

I live in an area with tons of Latino immigrants and children of immigrants, both legal and illegal. And your post is absolutely correct. I have never met even ONE conservative Latino immigrant or child of immigrant. They are extremely liberal, they don’t like whites, they feel entitled to whatever they want, they hate “rich people,” they think we stole land from them, etc. They are as far from conservatives as you can get. They will never, ever, ever vote for us.

[johnny reb]

I think it’s ironic that the two men that the Mexican people hold above all of their other countrymen are Villa and Zapata.Men who stood and fought for Mexico.They didn’t sneak off to some other country like cowards.Zapata,although painted as a Marxist was murdered because he wanted a Mexican version of our second amendment.If ever there was a country to use as an example of gun control allowing a country to be run by despots It would have to be Mexico.

[moehoward]

"even if immigrants all voted republican, would it matter?"

Excellent point.

While we all enjoy the anecdotal story of the proud self made successful immigrant, that quality is found in far too few of the overall pool.

The answer is SB1070 (and a serious roll-back on legal immigration). It works, and it's one of the major reasons AZ is bouncing back.

[stephenjohnbanker]

” Absolute NONSENSE! Biggest political myth of the past 30 years. “Hispanic values” = WELFARE STATE. Period. Hispanic immigrants receive welfare 4 times as often as other immigrants. “

F A C T

[Moonman62]

The Repub’s haven’t put up a real conservative since Reagan....That’s why they haven’t broken 40%....

For the most part, the GOP didn't put up Reagan. He was recruited by Republican rogues, both to be California governor and the president.

If we want another Reagan, he or she will have to be recruited. Don't count on the Potomac GOP to do it.

[kabar]

However, the Hispanic vote is NOT locked to Democrats. Hispanic voters values are more aligned with conservative values than liberal.

Facts are stubborn things. The idea of the “social issues” Hispanic voter is also a mirage. A majority of Hispanics now support gay marriage, a Pew Research Center poll from last month found. The Hispanic out-of-wedlock birth rate is 53 percent, about twice that of whites.

Hispanics have the highest school drop out rate of any group. Educational attainment among Hispanics remains very low. Just 10% of foreign-born and 13.5% of native Latinos have finished college, placing the group's completion rate at about a third of the national average.

Hispanics, immigrant and native, are major users of welfare programs.

Hispanics are a natural constituency for Democrats. They will, along with blacks, become part of the permanent underclass in this society. They will vote Democrat.

[Moonman62]

We'd be bringing in a huge influx of Democratic voters. Roughly 70% of Hispanic Americans already vote for the Democrats and you have to expect that the Democrats would capture an even larger percentage of illegal aliens.

If one goes with the theory that the main purpose of the Beltway GOP is to keep the Democrats in power and vastly expand the federal government, then it makes sense. (Look at what they did in the time between Hoover and Reagan.)

[Personal Responsibility]

If you’re actually naive enough to believe that amnesty will bring Hispanics over to the GOP, then ask yourself a simple question: Do you really think the Democrats would strongly support a policy that’s going to cost them millions of votes?

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Brilliant in its logical simplicity

[sand88]

However, the Hispanic vote is NOT locked to Democrats. Hispanic voters values are more aligned with conservative values than liberal.

You are completely wrong. It is absolutely wishful thinking to think that within 100 years we could ever get more than 35% of the Hispanic vote.

I suggest you read Heather McDonald's piece of the utter futility of amnesty.

[Democrats hate too much]

I was at a house party last Saturday night and had a conversation with a Hispanic male who looked 35-40 who has been working for Obama for America... He said he was deported but snuck back in and goes under many identities since coming back to the US. Even though he has been working for Obama he seemed like a nice guy who isn’t loyal to Obama. My conversation started when I overheard him talk to a Russian guy who has been in the US for the last 6 years. The two were talking about how a famous lady that makes predictions that had made a prediction that the last president of the US would be black. They both were laughing and agreeing with it... Oh, and the guy is convinced that the country is “gone”. I would have talked to him more one on one and had planned on it but he left the party by the time I started looking for him again.

[Theodore R.]

Hispanic voters values are more aligned with conservative values than liberal

Election returns year after year show that this statement is a myth.

[ridesthemiles]

I lived in California from 1964 to late 2004.

The number of illegal intruders in the 60’s and 70’s was pegged at 20 million.

I don’t think that number has gone down, except in Obama press releases. In the last 4 years, Obama’s number of illegals has gone from 15 to 14 to 13 to 10 million. IF they were dying off at that rate, we would know about it.

They have continued to grow in number, with a wide open birder & lack of the Fed government to stop their intrusion.

Then they have bred like rabbits while here. The 14th Amendment is being improperly used with those births.

I believe there are between 50 and 60 MILLION illegals here in the USA.

Why would the Republicans want a sudden 5 to 1 ratio of new persons here legally—demanding jobs—more free education—more benefits— you name it.

Obama will give them the right to vote immediately, also. They don’t speak English—I won’t learn Spanish to deal with them, either. I will walk away.

[goldstategop]

I’d vote for a Democrat over a pro-amnesty Republican. No one who advocates amnesty is going to get my vote.

I’ll vote for the person who looks out for America - not for the party!

[kosciusko51]

What do you think happens to a nation with millions of permanent foreigners who have no voting power to control their own lives?

What do you think happens to a nation with millions of citizens who have no voting power to control their own lives?

Because that is what is already happening, between voter fraud, liberal judges, and unelected bureaucrats.

[goldstategop]

The Left owns identity politics.

The GOP can’t compete with the Left on gimmes and giveaways. Democrats will always do the free stuff better than Republicans do.

Amnesty would be a disaster for the Republican Party and the country. The party in effect would be agreeing to enfranchise millions of new Democratic voters.

Its the stupidest idea I ever heard of. Incidentally, part of the reason Mittens lost last week was cuz he embraced Amnesty full-bore.

That should tell people its a political loser for Republicans. If they are so foolish as to join the Democrats on this - the conservative movement will die in this country.

[Cheerio]

Reagan (the greatest conservative president ever!) had an amnesty program. He unfortunately trusted Congress that they would couple it with border control, and got screwed.....

Sort of like trusting DEMS in Congress when you reach a grand bargain on reducing spending during the next 100 years, in exchange for raising taxes NEXT year. Same as immigration when the promise of closing the border and "this is the last amnesty ever" are offset with instant amnesty - the tax increases are never matched with the promised spending reductions out into the next 100 years. NEVER EVER TRUST A POLITICIAN, AND IN PARTICULAR A RAT.

[OddLane]

BTTT.