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SanFran Chronicle: If they want to secede, let 'em
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 11/13/2012 | Caille Millner

Posted on 11/14/2012 1:05:46 PM PST by TheWryFederalist

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To: ravenwolf

You’ll have to explain what you mean.

61 posted on 11/14/2012 1:43:25 PM PST by skeeter
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To: ravenwolf

Right now it is just passion

62 posted on 11/14/2012 1:43:37 PM PST by GeronL (
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To: TheWryFederalist

> I’m still waiting for someone, anyone, to propose a
> solution as to how you overcome, electorally, a majority
> now utterly dependent on government handouts and a
> political party determined to grow that majority to the
> greatest extent possible other than separation or
> surrender to it.

Wait no more. It can be done the same way they did it: by vote fraud. But I strongly recommend against it and that’s just me.

63 posted on 11/14/2012 1:44:24 PM PST by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: altsehastiin

“there is no galvanizing moral issue here at play like slavery.”

We minorities is gonna be in trouble because da secedeers gonna make us go back to du fields unless Obama come and saves us... Hail Obama, save us from da race mastas!

I can just see da great Moralizers from the MSM a’wheepin’ and a’whailin’ now. And da great “voloonteer” peeps army(most of whom stll a’smartin’ over no jobs, no ebt and welfare) will form to bring dem seceding racists to heel! And in the da midst of deer train’in a little red book be giv’n dem! “And they will call it Mao Pheonix: Long March 2!

My prediction: 50 million dead total for both sides just for a for every “legitimate”(sarcasm on) abortion. If nukes are used... living survivors may “envy the dead”!

64 posted on 11/14/2012 1:47:19 PM PST by mdmathis6 ("Barry" Xmas to all and have a rapaciously taxable New Year!)
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To: 6ppc

That’s not the way it will happen. It won’t go through state legislatures. It’s going to be people, on the ground, taking the land.

65 posted on 11/14/2012 1:51:51 PM PST by GVnana
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To: GeronL; All

The nation of Israel was formed when a man of passion. Jacob, wrestled with God all night, he was blessed but still ended up with a life long hip injury out of it.

If a new nation or a renewed nation is to be formed or reformed, people of passion are going to have to wrestle with God again if the nation formed is to have any value and longevity under heaven...but it will be costly and the first generation will bear those costs for the rest of their lives!

66 posted on 11/14/2012 2:00:55 PM PST by mdmathis6 ("Barry" Xmas to all and have a rapaciously taxable New Year!)
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“Is expressing the desire to secede an indication that a number of our fellow citizens want the left to understand that number of Americans can no longer live with the left?”

This hits the nail squarely on the head. The petition outburst represents millions of Americans sending a message to the socialist Democrats: we don’t want to fight you, argue with you, try to persuade you or campaign against you. We wish to be free of you and never think of you again.

67 posted on 11/14/2012 2:02:50 PM PST by TheWryFederalist
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To: TheWryFederalist

Can I sign a petition for kicking out certain states?

68 posted on 11/14/2012 2:08:09 PM PST by dirtymac (Now is the for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: TheWryFederalist

Big mistake to even entertain these ideas...

Okay, so the Kremlin sent in legions of communists to America to “reeducate” the American public and teach them to embrace socialism. It worked beyond their wildest dreams. Now there’s even talk of secession in the air, which is a HUGE win for the Kremlin.

Question: Does anyone really believe they’ll stop there? No, they’ll go after the red states next in exactly the same way; send in socialists to reeducate the children of the United Red States of America and eventually break it up too. And so on, until there’s nothing left.

We will not secede. We will not cede one inch to these bastards. I’d rather die. It’s all or nothing. They can go. But they can’t take even a handful of soil with them. C’mon, we fought a civil war over this. It ain’t happening. Don’t even talk about it. Don’t even think it.

69 posted on 11/14/2012 2:09:20 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: mdmathis6

Online petitions have no legal standing.

There are rules for legal petitions, and even a time limit to get the needed signatures and get them to the state capital (Austin). (State Sec of State)

70 posted on 11/14/2012 2:10:04 PM PST by GeronL (
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To: TheWryFederalist

I have a right to life, liberty and the persuit of happiness given to me by my Creator and established by the Constitution of this country.

I have the right to practice my religion and live according to it’s mandates without being forced by the government to commit or enable acts that offend those mandates; whether it be by financial means or the upholding of those who practice such.

I have a right to rear, nurture, instruct and counsel my children in these precepts in order to instill these character traits for their benefit.

I have the right to decide with whom and where I associate or do business with, offer employment to, support with my financial and material wealth or engage in agreements of any kind.

I have the right to choose with whom I entrust the welfare of my children and to choose, what kind of people with what kind of values, lifestyles and methods of teaching they are exposed to in their educational life until they reach the age of their own deference.

I have the right to choose the amount, content, composition and description of each and every material item I purchase or contract and ageement I may enter into and from whom I choose to buy or procure it.

I have the right to give voice to my opinions on any and all subjects or actions that I choose, in any manner and by any media.

These things were once a reality in America. They are no longer.

71 posted on 11/14/2012 2:14:31 PM PST by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: TheWryFederalist

It’s barely been a week since President Obama’s re-election, and some people can’t believe, truly can’t believe, that things didn’t go their way. will be going our way! Don’t worry asshat! You libs always do yourselfs in!

72 posted on 11/14/2012 2:17:28 PM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: LibWhacker

“C’mon, we fought a civil war over this.”

CW1 was fought over the worst issue any war’s ever been fought over. This secession were it to occur would be predicated on restoring the sovereign rights guaranteed by OUR CREATOR and laid out in the Constitution. It would be based on securing freedom not the right to continue enslaving people. Utterly different in every respect and really more like the Revolution than the Civil War.

“It ain’t happening. Don’t even talk about it. Don’t even think it.”

Millions upon millions of your fellow Americans are indeed talking and thinking about it.

73 posted on 11/14/2012 2:19:13 PM PST by TheWryFederalist
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To: Dilbert San Diego

74 posted on 11/14/2012 2:23:00 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: The Sons of Liberty

There isn’t a petition limit for secession, but a standing rule on the WH website that if any petition, about anything, garners at least 25,000 or so signatures, the President will respond to it. That is all.

75 posted on 11/14/2012 2:26:44 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: TheWryFederalist

I’m not interested in seceding. But I would be interested in discussing the turnover of San Fransicko and other commie areas to the Red Chinese in return for debt write-off.

76 posted on 11/14/2012 2:27:47 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Jyotishi

Martial law is Obama’s only other option (but will the military support him? hmmmm...

One of Obama’s first Executive Orders was to give INTERPOL jurisdiction over all American Law Enforcement and Military. That’s called laying groundwork.

77 posted on 11/14/2012 2:28:56 PM PST by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: TheWryFederalist
As of Wednesday morning, 37 states had posted petitions on the White House website to secede from the United States of America. (Some not-so-brilliant citizens of Georgia and South Carolina actually have two different secession postings each, but I'm counting those knuckleheads only once.)

So SF Chronicle editor, you are calling people who believes in the CONSTITUTION knuckleheads?? No, A$$wipes, knuckleheads are LIBERALS and moderates who let MARXISTS like Barry STOMP on the constitution!!

I'm sorry to report that this not-so-illustrious group includes California, where nearly 7,000 citizens have signed a petition quoting the Declaration of Independence and insisting on the right to set up their own government.

7,000 people signed in CA? I guess JimRoberson knows 7,000 good Americans in CA!!

This is clearly part of a movement to draft all the states, and Lord knows that there are certainly enough foolish people in each and every state in the union who would be willing to put their name on anything at all. But seeing as this country did fight the most bloody war in its history over the secession of the chattel slavery-holding states, it's sad to see that those are the same states that currently boast the most popular secession petitions.

Louisiana (around 30,000 signatures). Florida (about 24,000). South Carolina (around 28,000). Alabama (nearing the 23,000 mark). And last but never least, Texas, which rates as the state most likely to secede at more than 80,000

Are you morons at sanFranChronicle trying to say that we want to bring SLAVERY back?? No, we are ENSLAVED by the GOVERNMENT!!!

78 posted on 11/14/2012 2:29:30 PM PST by ExCTCitizen (More Republicans stayed home then the margin of victory of O's Win...)
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To: JackOfVA
Without being too flippant, wasn't this decided in 1861-65, where the answer was that the side with the largest army got to make the succession rules?

Not really. It was only decided for that particular instance. And the winning side had to bypass the Constitution in many ways to get it done. (Read one of the many books on how Lincoln acted in many non-Constitutional ways.) The issue of secession is not settled in the least. And who is to say who would have the biggest army this time?

79 posted on 11/14/2012 2:30:04 PM PST by LaRueLaDue
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To: Proud2BeRight

Landmines. WE wouldn’t sign the “Montreal Protocols” banning landmines. . .

80 posted on 11/14/2012 2:35:27 PM PST by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border. I **DARE** you to cross it. . . .)
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