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Dobson: Where have GOP values gone? [GOP was AWOL on conservative values]
WorldNetDaily ^ | November 16, 2012 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 11/17/2012 12:24:28 PM PST by fwdude

The 2012 election was an open door for the GOP to lead America back to its roots in faith and morality, and the Republicans were AWOL, says Dr. James Dobson, founder of Family Talk and a brand new political outreach arm called Family Talk Action.

“I waited throughout the campaign for Mitt Romney to declare himself, to at least identify with the moral issues that are before us. He would not touch them,” Dobson said on a two-part radio program in which Penny Nance, head of Concerned Women for America, joined.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012rncstrategy; christianvote; conservatism; elections; romney2012
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To: fwdude

:) OK. I will give you President Reagan was conservative with a backbone, however he is an anomaly in that party. The GOP has been leading us astray ever since.


21 posted on 11/17/2012 1:01:42 PM PST by Truth2012
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To: yldstrk
I've listened to Dobson on the radio for years and have read some of his writings. He has a lot of credibility with me. If you are a parent, you'd do well to take his advice. Believe me; people are less tolerant of other peoples' brats. It's sort of like George Carlin said, "Your own aren't so bad." (Of course he was talking about something else, but the same holds true.)

As to that dog story you posted... In my opinion, that dog is lucky to be alive. He showed more mercy than it deserved.

22 posted on 11/17/2012 1:06:39 PM PST by Barnacle (Is treason a high crime or misdemeanor?)
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To: Barnacle

well whoop dee doo.

No shelter puppies for you, bub


23 posted on 11/17/2012 1:12:04 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Truth2012
The GOP has been leading us astray ever since.

Not like they have the past couple of election cycles. As the article posits, they are now COMPLETELY AWOL on conservative issues that matter to millions of voters, and they don't seem to give a flip.

“We begged him to deal with eight issues. We listed first the sanctity of life, marriage, religious life, ‘Don’t Ask,’ ENDA, on it went,” Dobson said. “We said we really are not here to jump on you, but evangelicals are not excited about your candidacy, not energized. … You could connect if you’ll even mention these things.

“He nodded and he smiled and he was gracious as he always is, and he went out and was silent,” Dobson said.

Republicans in congress were at LEAST conservative enough in the 90's to see the encroaching tide of barbarism that militant homosexuals posed and were able to pass the DOMA into law, with Clinton's coerced signature (he didn't have the veto with such massive support in Congress.) And this was done well BEFORE any states had counterfeited marriage. We started losing it in the 2000's, and the newest breed of "Republican" in the current decade is now ripe and indistinguishable from Republicans even a decade ago.

24 posted on 11/17/2012 1:15:07 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude

Meant to say, “indistinguishable from Democrats even a decade ago.”


25 posted on 11/17/2012 1:18:08 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: knarf
We all know what happened to Alan Keyes and ANYone that espouses a true and hard conservative value line.

Do you know that Keyes ran for the nomination for THREE different parties in 2008?

26 posted on 11/17/2012 1:20:02 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischer’s successful run in Nebraska)
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To: yldstrk

I see that the article you cite refers to Dobson’s “authoritarian politics”, and then links to an article denouncing the Tea Party.

Evidently you forgot that you weren’t posting at the Daily Kos when you offered up this link to back up your case against Dobson.


27 posted on 11/17/2012 1:21:59 PM PST by Pelham (America, 1775-2012)
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To: fwdude

Romney did take a stand, he restated his agenda for homosexualizing the Boy Scout leaders, and the military.

Mitt also came out against the party’s pro-life platform, and returned to his pro-abortion position, (that was in August).


28 posted on 11/17/2012 1:23:59 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischer’s successful run in Nebraska)
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To: Pelham

welp one point for you

yeah I just got an article that had dobson’s dipsh8 writing sample, didn’t even look to see what the rest of the article said, probably should have, still it doesn’t make dobsons lunatic screed any less revolting


29 posted on 11/17/2012 1:25:09 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: fwdude

My first election was Bill Clinton and I voted for Ross Perot!! So, I will say in my generation the GOP has not made much sense to me. I also thought I was a Democrat, and then could not vote for Clinton because he was “crazy town”, and realized after all of that I was really a mean old conservative.

So- I will amend my statement to encompass “my generation of GOP”.

They never talked about anything conservative that I could see.


30 posted on 11/17/2012 1:31:16 PM PST by Truth2012
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To: fwdude

I gravitated to the GOP years ago because of both fiscal and social conservatism, even if they fell more than a bit short at both at times. The Republicans at least used to TALK about “balanced budget ammendments” and “family values.” Nowadays? Neither. The Party virtually runs away from both. Seems to stand for nothingness.

Indeed, when Romney responded to a query about the Chick-Fil-A buycott with “um, that’s not part of my campaign,” that spoke volumes. Not even a simple, generic applaud for the freedom of people standing up for what they believe. Along with the years-long backstabbing of Palin, and the GOP-convention’s unwillingness to even allow the words “tea party” be spoken, it was the final nail in telling me that the GOP does not remotely share my values anymore.


31 posted on 11/17/2012 1:32:12 PM PST by greene66
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To: fwdude
Republicans in congress were at LEAST conservative enough in the 90's to see the encroaching tide of barbarism that militant homosexuals posed and were able to pass the DOMA into law, with Clinton's coerced signature (he didn't have the veto with such massive support in Congress.) And this was done well BEFORE any states had counterfeited marriage.

Yep, and homosexual marriage came out of Romney's governorship.

The 1990s Mitt Romney, after he quit boycotting Reagan's republican party, and rejoined the GOP in October of 1993.

""I am more convinced than ever before that as we seek to establish full equality for Americas gay and lesbian citizens, I will provide more effective leadership than my opponent.

I am not unaware of my opponent’s considerable record in the area of civil rights, or the commitment of Massachusetts voters to the principle of equality for all Americans. For some voters it might be enough for me to simply match my opponent’s record in this area. But I believe we can and must do better. If we are to achieve the goals we share, we must make equality for gays and lesbians a mainstream concern. My opponent cannot do this. I can and will.

We have discussed a number of important issues such as the Federal Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA), which I have agreed to co-sponsor, and if possible broaden to include housing and credit, and the bill to create a federal panel to find ways to reduce gay and lesbian youth suicide, which I also support. One issue I want to clarify concerns President Clinton’s “don’t ask, don’t tell, don’t pursue” military policy. I believe that the Clinton compromise was a step in the right direction. I am also convinced that it is the first of a number of steps that will ultimately lead to gays and lesbians being able to serve openly and honestly in our nation’s military. That goal will only be reached when preventing discrimination against gays and lesbians is a mainstream concern, which is a goal we share.""

32 posted on 11/17/2012 1:33:11 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischer’s successful run in Nebraska)
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To: yldstrk
No shelter puppies for you, bub

If I did get one, he would be one that my guest would not have to worry about being bitten or humped.

33 posted on 11/17/2012 1:48:54 PM PST by Barnacle (Is treason a high crime or misdemeanor?)
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To: fwdude

The morons allowing the greater of two evils to win are the only one deserving of it.


34 posted on 11/17/2012 1:53:03 PM PST by soycd
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To: yldstrk

I’m wondering if your definition of “conservatism” is limited to economics, and believe that Americans who have a Bible-based traditional world-view, home-view, child-rearing-view, marriage view —— those of us who have maintained what our Christian great grandparents, parents, and parents have taught us about right and wrong —— are somehow a threat to you or to your lifestyle ?


35 posted on 11/17/2012 2:01:06 PM PST by John Leland 1789
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To: yldstrk; fwdude

Ydstrk, I have agreed with you on many occassions, but ABC polling on corporal punishment to civilize the kids and pounding the dog with a noisy piece of newspaper....well....you lose me there. And cafephil.com sounds like a passel of latte drinking beard strokers nestled comfortably on one of the two left coasts.

Try again.


36 posted on 11/17/2012 2:01:06 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: fwdude

I disagree. If we “support” GOP candidates because that’s all there is, we are not being given a voice of our own. IOW, it becomes a form of suppression against conservatives.

I am currently working to try to get the Tea Party to raise their profile as a replacement for the GOP. If we all push them, the Tea Party may have to re-evaluate their current position and their current operations. In ‘08, there was general acknowledgement that the GOP had shifted too far to the left and abandoned the conservatives who supported them.

Despite a number of people witholding donations pending a lurch back to the right, the GOP-E has proven intransigent and is satisfied to abandon their base.

So, I don’t have to support the GOP simply because that’s what there is. I deserve better, conservatives deserve better and America deserves better.


37 posted on 11/17/2012 2:44:04 PM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: RitaOK

hahaha

love the portrayal of Phil. But Dobsosn says he beat the dog with a belt not a paper


38 posted on 11/17/2012 3:18:10 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: fwdude

GOP = Givernment Oppression Party..


39 posted on 11/17/2012 3:18:50 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: John Leland 1789

JOhn Leland, ok ok uncle, no my conservatism is not just limited to economics, but I have been a long time family advocate, one spouse, and guess what, you don’t need to beat your kids and dogs to be a Christian. True I don’t believe in spanking oh and guess what again, my kids are all in high school or older and they are not in prison or on drugs. They ski, drive, all have legal driver licenses, the voting ones voted Romney, they scuba dive, aren’t in sexual relationships..............all without spanking. Wow! How did I do it? Was it always sweetness and light? No. But I was a stay at home mom until my youngest was in 6th grade and then worked only part time so I could do the pick up after school, dinner at 6. I don’t drink, or galavant around at night and guess what? Somehow it all worked out.

So, no, I don’t think it is a literal rod in the Bible, oh, by the way, I pray and fast and pray scriptures for my children. I think the “rod” is a metaphor for a structured life and life is hard enough without intentionally hurting the kids.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.


40 posted on 11/17/2012 3:28:27 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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